Grey Goo - new RTS from original C&C devs - Page 41

On February 21 2015 23:53 -Archangel- wrote:

Tell that to Oxcide devs that made a RTS engine that is 64 bit only and uses all cores very well and as result can do stuff GG can only dream of.

On February 22 2015 18:26 lolfail9001 wrote:

Is there a working demo of this? Google is silent on the matter for me.

On February 22 2015 18:32 Cyro wrote:


Star Swarm. It's like a year old and it's free on steam. They're making actual games using the engine (which supports directx 12) but i have not even heard the names of those games yet

On February 22 2015 18:53 Cyro wrote:
sc2 does fine enough not only being 32 bit, but not being large address aware (i think that's the right term) so it can only use 2048MB. It brushes up against that now and stutters (BLIZZARD PLZ) but it was fine before they made more fancy maps and unit skins etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sl1WCZEQfg

Which trailer are you talking about? ^That one was really damn cool. I never saw any trailers for this game before

Nah, i meant trailer on steam for that star swarm thingy.

Q. What is the Nitrous engine?
A. Nitrous is a next-generation game engine designed to handle enormous amounts of visual and gameplay complexity, from 10,000+ simpler units to 1,000 highly complex units and environments.

Q. Why did you set out to make a 3D engine?
A. Because we wanted an engine that would allow us to break new ground and support epic battles and scenes on a wide variety of platforms. No engine on the market today can simulate and depict the scope of action that Nitrous is designed from the ground up to do. We want to create something that opens new doors to game developers, particularly in the strategy and RTS genres.

Q. What games are using Nitrous?
A. Stardock’s upcoming Star Control and another unannounced title being developed alongside the engine by Oxide are currently in production using Nitrous.

On February 22 2015 19:47 -Archangel- wrote:
The point is that a well made engine can do what GG cannot. If you let Star Swarm show 200 units at same time (which GG struggles with) it would probably run at 200 fps.

On February 22 2015 19:53 lolfail9001 wrote:

Perhaps, to be honest, even SC2 engine comfortably runs at 200 units-on-screen on acceptable visuals.

On February 22 2015 19:47 -Archangel- wrote:
The point is that a well made engine can do what GG cannot. If you let Star Swarm show 200 units at same time (which GG struggles with) it would probably run at 200 fps.

On February 22 2015 20:16 Cyro wrote:


It doesn't tax modern GPU's at all. My gtx260 saw no real performance difference between low and ultra settings with 200-500 units on screen, and my 980 is so many levels more powerful (enough that i don't even know, maybe 10x?)

On February 22 2015 20:22 lolfail9001 wrote:

SC2 engine instead taxes a single CPU core to an extreme. I wonder if it will work without lags on overclocked xxxx with 8+ Ghz on a core :D

On February 22 2015 20:16 Cyro wrote:


It doesn't tax modern GPU's at all. My gtx260 saw no real performance difference between low and ultra settings with 200-500 units on screen, and my 980 is so many levels more powerful (enough that i don't even know, maybe 10x?)



Yea it does for sure. You can show 200 units at once, though the AI is very simplistic, we get very high FPS

Using my custom ini file with about 1500v1500 units, FPS dips to 40 or so when they collide. It looks kinda ridiculous though because it drops from 500+fps to 40fps, and the time in Star Swarm seems to directly scale with the framerate (so it goes from stuff flying around at 100000000mph to suddenly being ultra slow motion, which actually makes it impossible to benchmark properly on hardware of varying performance)

On February 22 2015 21:21 -Archangel- wrote:

Because of Oxcide engine and their future games I was planning to make my next GPU a Mantle supported, but with DirectX12 coming and having same or better performance I guess I don't need to choose only from AMD products.

Anyways, the future of RTS games is exciting with such engines making games in the future

On February 23 2015 21:40 Cyro wrote:
Yea walls stick out to me and aside from that, my main concern is the huge imbalance with where humans can or can't build conduit. On some maps they can only reach a tiny fraction of the map so that they're struggling to fit all of their production if they don't organize properly, on others they can build it halfway to the enemy base and spam artillery turrets everywhere

On February 23 2015 22:09 -Archangel- wrote:

It is better to not allow conduits all over the map if Sentinels stay at 0 supply.