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Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
January 24 2015 13:05 GMT
#261
Since when is 40 euros for a game expensive?

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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 24 2015 13:09 GMT
#262
It is 45 euro.
And wait for a torrent if you want to demo it before buying.
TerranHwaiting
Profile Joined December 2014
Korea (North)179 Posts
January 24 2015 13:43 GMT
#263
I think they simplified too much.
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
January 24 2015 13:56 GMT
#264
On January 24 2015 22:05 Technique wrote:
Since when is 40 euros for a game expensive?



Yeah it's funny how PC gamers expect to get high-quality and long-lasting games for like 4.95€ or something noways. Meanwhile console gamers are still paying 60 bucks for ~10 hours of gameplay.

This game has pretty high production values (and thus costs) so I wouldn't expect it to go <10€ any time soon.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 14:19:27
January 24 2015 14:15 GMT
#265
On January 24 2015 22:56 Mannerheim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 22:05 Technique wrote:
Since when is 40 euros for a game expensive?



Yeah it's funny how PC gamers expect to get high-quality and long-lasting games for like 4.95€ or something noways. Meanwhile console gamers are still paying 60 bucks for ~10 hours of gameplay.

This game has pretty high production values (and thus costs) so I wouldn't expect it to go <10€ any time soon.


Tangent about how expensive €40 is:
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't use a console, it's an inferior gaming platform and the games are incredibly expensive for what they are. If people are silly enough to spend that much money on console gaming, that's their right.

€40 has been expensive for a while now. Starcraft 2 was worth the €60+€40 I spent on it since it has basically infinite re-playability. I spent even more money on Age of Empires III (vanilla game and two expansions) and that was also worth it because it's one of my favorite games of all time. Both of these games are excellent RTS games which have active communities and excellent game play.

So while I would spent €40 in a heartbeat for Age of Empires IV or Starcraft 3 (maybe even AoM2), I have 0 incentive to spend €45 on a game which I'm not familiar with at all. I watched a few streams, had no idea what I was looking at. I noticed the game-play was quite slow, though. If the game as an RTS is equivalent to AoE or SC, why not? But how can we be sure? Is the community active? Micro? Macro? I have no idea.

In the mean time you have pure gems which are being sold like hot cakes. I got Il-2 Cliffs of Dover, which is also and AAA+ title, for like €10 (it's easily worth €40). I got Skyrim for less than €4. I got Witcher 2 for less than €5. Witcher 1 I got for a couple €, same for Far Cry 2. CS:GO, though I've never bought, is only €13.

Then there are the free games like LoL, Hearthstone, Dota 2, 0 AD, Archeage, Hawken, STARBOW, not to mention all the free games you can get without spending a dime if you watch the "pc game sales thread".


€40 is expensive; you can be haughty about it if you want, in the meantime I'm not really inclined to buy a game that expensive. I came in the thread for information about the game, so how about you tell me what's so great about grey goo instead of telling me how much I should value my monies.
maru lover forever
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 14:24:06
January 24 2015 14:22 GMT
#266
Meh missing a few Euro. Wanted to buy it early since people I trust commented on the good campaign. But this thread explained to me why we can't have nice new things.
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
January 24 2015 15:21 GMT
#267
the units are so slow I got bored from just watching 5min of gameplay haha
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
January 24 2015 15:42 GMT
#268
Totalbiscuit's take on it:

Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 24 2015 16:13 GMT
#269
I really want to like a new rts game but I don't think this is the one.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1982 Posts
January 24 2015 16:19 GMT
#270
On January 24 2015 22:05 Technique wrote:
Since when is 40 euros for a game expensive?



It is expensive. If Greygoo sucks or is not my taste it is 40 or 45 wasted euros. I would pay 30 for it the most without being able to test it before. If there would be a demo and i love it, i would pay up to 50 euro.
Total Annihilation Zero
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
January 24 2015 16:39 GMT
#271
Normally i would only buy a game if i get at least more hours played than € spend..
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 24 2015 16:53 GMT
#272
While a fan of any C&C before tiberium wars, don't think this is worth dropping money on when it's full price
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
January 24 2015 17:04 GMT
#273
Is it possible to increase the speed of the game?
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 17:51:40
January 24 2015 17:50 GMT
#274
That TB vid is a bit of a fail.
Building through hotkeys is inspired by dota? Really? What about cnc games?

And the slow units is more like cnc3? Cnc3 is probably quicker than sc2.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2669 Posts
January 24 2015 17:51 GMT
#275
So far, that game is really fun. Doesn't matter much to me that it is way slower than Sc2.
Totally worth the money.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 18:39:43
January 24 2015 18:37 GMT
#276
On January 25 2015 02:51 gTank wrote:
So far, that game is really fun. Doesn't matter much to me that it is way slower than Sc2.
Totally worth the money.

What about the multi player though? I can imagine that after you've played a few dozen games you want the speed to go up a bit, similar to how in BW fastest was eventually standardized as a gamespeed.

I mean, a slow speed for the campaign is probably fine -- it's been five years since the last C&C game after all so people are rusty. SC2 would be perfectly fine on Fast for the campaign as well, but probably not for the multiplayer.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 24 2015 18:59 GMT
#277
Huh i am still quite unsure about this game, i saw tb's video and it looks certainly ok, but would it be really fun for someone who enjoys sc2? (i am only plat, but still...)
If they would sell it for 30 i probably would buy it instantly, but 50? :/
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 24 2015 19:38 GMT
#278
It's probably worth buying if you were into CnC, though personally I've never played the series.

Still, with enough positive reviews and an active multiplayer, I could see myself buying this, just because it's an RTS and I want to support RTS games. it's really expensive though
maru lover forever
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 20:42:02
January 24 2015 20:40 GMT
#279
I've only played the first two missions on normal so far and I'm not even considering MP until I learn to play but so far I think it's a pretty slick game. It's definitely the best RTS I've played since SC2, not that there is many games to list. The Wargame series being the only other real stand out.

I feel a lot of games recently are trying to claim "old school" gameplay when in reality it's just bad/cheaply made. This really does feel like a traditional, late 90s RTS game with today's tech, so far anyway
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 20:58:05
January 24 2015 20:52 GMT
#280
On January 24 2015 23:15 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 22:56 Mannerheim wrote:
On January 24 2015 22:05 Technique wrote:
Since when is 40 euros for a game expensive?



Yeah it's funny how PC gamers expect to get high-quality and long-lasting games for like 4.95€ or something noways. Meanwhile console gamers are still paying 60 bucks for ~10 hours of gameplay.

This game has pretty high production values (and thus costs) so I wouldn't expect it to go <10€ any time soon.


Tangent about how expensive €40 is:
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't use a console, it's an inferior gaming platform and the games are incredibly expensive for what they are. If people are silly enough to spend that much money on console gaming, that's their right.

€40 has been expensive for a while now. Starcraft 2 was worth the €60+€40 I spent on it since it has basically infinite re-playability. I spent even more money on Age of Empires III (vanilla game and two expansions) and that was also worth it because it's one of my favorite games of all time. Both of these games are excellent RTS games which have active communities and excellent game play.

So while I would spent €40 in a heartbeat for Age of Empires IV or Starcraft 3 (maybe even AoM2), I have 0 incentive to spend €45 on a game which I'm not familiar with at all. I watched a few streams, had no idea what I was looking at. I noticed the game-play was quite slow, though. If the game as an RTS is equivalent to AoE or SC, why not? But how can we be sure? Is the community active? Micro? Macro? I have no idea.

In the mean time you have pure gems which are being sold like hot cakes. I got Il-2 Cliffs of Dover, which is also and AAA+ title, for like €10 (it's easily worth €40). I got Skyrim for less than €4. I got Witcher 2 for less than €5. Witcher 1 I got for a couple €, same for Far Cry 2. CS:GO, though I've never bought, is only €13.

Then there are the free games like LoL, Hearthstone, Dota 2, 0 AD, Archeage, Hawken, STARBOW, not to mention all the free games you can get without spending a dime if you watch the "pc game sales thread".


€40 is expensive; you can be haughty about it if you want, in the meantime I'm not really inclined to buy a game that expensive. I came in the thread for information about the game, so how about you tell me what's so great about grey goo instead of telling me how much I should value my monies.

Every non-f2p game you listed has been out for years. You're comparing day 1 release day pricing to Steam sale prices.

Waiting for sales is never a bad idea, especially if it's a game on Steam, but $50-60 is pretty standard pricing for new releases (non-indie) and has been that way for a long time. I don't think it's out of the ordinary. But like most PC games now, there'll probably be a big price cut in a year or less. I've stopped buying most PC games on day1 simply because of how quickly they go on sale.

As someone who grew up with C&C, I'm really interested in getting this. Waiting for more reviews though..
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