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On April 11 2014 08:50 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2014 20:06 Gorsameth wrote:On April 10 2014 10:49 Disengaged wrote:On April 10 2014 09:14 Gorsameth wrote:On April 10 2014 09:09 Redox wrote:
I just looked up the release date for this and was very surprised to learn it is only december 2014. I played some WoW the beginning of this year, and already thought then that MoP is pretty much done with. I thought next addon would be in May or something.
What are you guys doing in the meantime over this year? Or is there content coming out after the garosh raid? Note the release date is "some time before december" which isnt the same thing ^^ Most people are thinking September. And yes SoO will last way to long and WoW is going to lose another few million subs because of it. Not like it matters. They will come back anyway. Its nothing new. Except history shows that's not true. Sure a lot of them will come back but numbers show that every time this happens a significant portion do stay away for good. Still doesn't really matter. They still make good money with 6-8 million subs. Along with expansion sales. Sure, some people get bored and take a break but they still come back to check out the new content but some people simply move on because it is time for them to. WoW hit its peak awhile ago and will never have 13-14 million subs again and the remaining subs are basically their constant average number.
I'm not sure I'd say it doesn't matter. GW2 has much less sub's but makes more net profit than WoW does. WoW revenue has dropped about 80% year to date according to their financial reports and content suffers because of it. NCSoft pushes out more content than blizzard and it's because they make more net profit.
There are also far less paying sub's than you think. Out of those 6-8m about 70% don't pay sub's. There are major changes coming in a few months to the servers and you will realize then just how badly things are going for Blizzard in the states. Its not a coincidence that they are selling 90s, taking preorders a year in advance, and pushing out cash shop features faster than ever.
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On April 07 2014 20:38 Pandemona wrote:
Prot warrior ftw. But they removed cleave....how fuck we supposed to aoe aggro now ;_;
Is the thing that makes thunder clap apply rend still in the game? i havent actually played since firelands so i might be completely wrong lolol
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On April 11 2014 09:16 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 20:38 Pandemona wrote:
Prot warrior ftw. But they removed cleave....how fuck we supposed to aoe aggro now ;_; Is the thing that makes thunder clap apply rend still in the game? i havent actually played since firelands so i might be completely wrong lolol
Yes it is still in the game. We're fine. 3 target revenge + thunder clap and target switching will generally be sufficient unless there's dps with you that are significantly more geared than you. In a lot of raid encounters it doesn't even matter, and in the beginning of expansions in 5 man content you can just take shockwave which is on a 20 sec cd if you hit 3 or more targets, perfect for your average pack of mobs
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On April 11 2014 09:31 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 09:16 arb wrote:On April 07 2014 20:38 Pandemona wrote:
Prot warrior ftw. But they removed cleave....how fuck we supposed to aoe aggro now ;_; Is the thing that makes thunder clap apply rend still in the game? i havent actually played since firelands so i might be completely wrong lolol We're fine. 3 target revenge + thunder clap and target switching will generally be sufficient unless there's dps with you that are significantly more geared than you. In a lot of raid encounters it doesn't even matter, and in the beginning of expansions in 5 man content you can just take shockwave which is on a 20 sec cd if you hit 3 or more targets, perfect for your average pack of mobs
With the amount of boosts to threat, tanking hasnt been an issue in a long time,that should be good enough with the boosts i think., it made aoe tanking really easy, rend tc then sw and you could hold aggro forever, aslong as you were thunder clapping/revenge on cd
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On April 11 2014 10:10 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 09:31 Yorkie wrote:On April 11 2014 09:16 arb wrote:On April 07 2014 20:38 Pandemona wrote:
Prot warrior ftw. But they removed cleave....how fuck we supposed to aoe aggro now ;_; Is the thing that makes thunder clap apply rend still in the game? i havent actually played since firelands so i might be completely wrong lolol We're fine. 3 target revenge + thunder clap and target switching will generally be sufficient unless there's dps with you that are significantly more geared than you. In a lot of raid encounters it doesn't even matter, and in the beginning of expansions in 5 man content you can just take shockwave which is on a 20 sec cd if you hit 3 or more targets, perfect for your average pack of mobs With the amount of boosts to threat, tanking hasnt been an issue in a long time,that should be good enough with the boosts i think., it made aoe tanking really easy, rend tc then sw and you could hold aggro forever, aslong as you were thunder clapping/revenge on cd
Exactly. Tbh threat is not too much of an issue anymore. Some classes are easier than others in that respect, but none of them have any real difficulty. The question is do I still want to main my warrior in WoD. With so many capped toons and the opportunity to boost another I can't decide TT
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Threat is kind of silly, if you do around 1/3 of a mob's health, no one can pull it off you until it dies. I've never actually seen aggro pulled since Wrath aside from a massive string of crits right at the beginning of a fight.
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I ripped threat every pull as Moonkin all expansion up until and including during ToT normals. Its there for some specs at the start of an expansion but tapers off.
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Any tip on what I can do if I can only play 1-2 hour every day? Have levelled my professions to max recently, and currently doing old dungeons and raids. Anything else that's interesting?
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On April 23 2014 04:51 Arnstein wrote:
Any tip on what I can do if I can only play 1-2 hour every day? Have levelled my professions to max recently, and currently doing old dungeons and raids. Anything else that's interesting?
If you have some friends you can do Challenge Modes. Donno how much LFR you can do in that time since I havnt done em in forever but that might also be an option.
Arena, tho again needs 1-2 friends.
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On April 23 2014 04:59 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 04:51 Arnstein wrote:
Any tip on what I can do if I can only play 1-2 hour every day? Have levelled my professions to max recently, and currently doing old dungeons and raids. Anything else that's interesting? If you have some friends you can do Challenge Modes. Donno how much LFR you can do in that time since I havnt done em in forever but that might also be an option. Arena, tho again needs 1-2 friends.
Can also do pet battles.
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haha, was thinking of starting to play again, so i contacted support to see if i could get my 8 year old account back. turns out someone else has been playing it and bought every expansion and been playing on it for several years. so turns out i have an fully upgraded account ready to go now with 2months of paid game time. LOL
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On April 23 2014 05:37 deichkind wrote:
haha, was thinking of starting to play again, so i contacted support to see if i could get my 8 year old account back. turns out someone else has been playing it and bought every expansion and been playing on it for several years. so turns out i have an fully upgraded account ready to go now with 2months of paid game time. LOL
sometimes getting hacked can be a good thing ^^
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On April 23 2014 09:06 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 05:37 deichkind wrote:
haha, was thinking of starting to play again, so i contacted support to see if i could get my 8 year old account back. turns out someone else has been playing it and bought every expansion and been playing on it for several years. so turns out i have an fully upgraded account ready to go now with 2months of paid game time. LOL sometimes getting hacked can be a good thing ^^
I have a friend who had a similar situation, got his account back with about 16,000g and a bunch of new mounts + Cata and MoP lol
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Any active NA-Horde guilds?
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Haato#1307
Vashj [Alliance] US
Also interested in horde US
Balnazzar - Rampage
LF PVP partners and a guild
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On April 11 2014 09:13 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 08:50 Disengaged wrote:On April 10 2014 20:06 Gorsameth wrote:On April 10 2014 10:49 Disengaged wrote:On April 10 2014 09:14 Gorsameth wrote:On April 10 2014 09:09 Redox wrote:
I just looked up the release date for this and was very surprised to learn it is only december 2014. I played some WoW the beginning of this year, and already thought then that MoP is pretty much done with. I thought next addon would be in May or something.
What are you guys doing in the meantime over this year? Or is there content coming out after the garosh raid? Note the release date is "some time before december" which isnt the same thing ^^ Most people are thinking September. And yes SoO will last way to long and WoW is going to lose another few million subs because of it. Not like it matters. They will come back anyway. Its nothing new. Except history shows that's not true. Sure a lot of them will come back but numbers show that every time this happens a significant portion do stay away for good. Still doesn't really matter. They still make good money with 6-8 million subs. Along with expansion sales. Sure, some people get bored and take a break but they still come back to check out the new content but some people simply move on because it is time for them to. WoW hit its peak awhile ago and will never have 13-14 million subs again and the remaining subs are basically their constant average number. I'm not sure I'd say it doesn't matter. GW2 has much less sub's but makes more net profit than WoW does. WoW revenue has dropped about 80% year to date according to their financial reports and content suffers because of it. NCSoft pushes out more content than blizzard and it's because they make more net profit. There are also far less paying sub's than you think. Out of those 6-8m about 70% don't pay sub's. There are major changes coming in a few months to the servers and you will realize then just how badly things are going for Blizzard in the states. Its not a coincidence that they are selling 90s, taking preorders a year in advance, and pushing out cash shop features faster than ever.
What changes are you referring to? How did you come by this information?
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On May 14 2014 00:57 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 09:13 Serejai wrote:On April 11 2014 08:50 Disengaged wrote:On April 10 2014 20:06 Gorsameth wrote:On April 10 2014 10:49 Disengaged wrote:On April 10 2014 09:14 Gorsameth wrote:On April 10 2014 09:09 Redox wrote:
I just looked up the release date for this and was very surprised to learn it is only december 2014. I played some WoW the beginning of this year, and already thought then that MoP is pretty much done with. I thought next addon would be in May or something.
What are you guys doing in the meantime over this year? Or is there content coming out after the garosh raid? Note the release date is "some time before december" which isnt the same thing ^^ Most people are thinking September. And yes SoO will last way to long and WoW is going to lose another few million subs because of it. Not like it matters. They will come back anyway. Its nothing new. Except history shows that's not true. Sure a lot of them will come back but numbers show that every time this happens a significant portion do stay away for good. Still doesn't really matter. They still make good money with 6-8 million subs. Along with expansion sales. Sure, some people get bored and take a break but they still come back to check out the new content but some people simply move on because it is time for them to. WoW hit its peak awhile ago and will never have 13-14 million subs again and the remaining subs are basically their constant average number. I'm not sure I'd say it doesn't matter. GW2 has much less sub's but makes more net profit than WoW does. WoW revenue has dropped about 80% year to date according to their financial reports and content suffers because of it. NCSoft pushes out more content than blizzard and it's because they make more net profit. There are also far less paying sub's than you think. Out of those 6-8m about 70% don't pay sub's. There are major changes coming in a few months to the servers and you will realize then just how badly things are going for Blizzard in the states. Its not a coincidence that they are selling 90s, taking preorders a year in advance, and pushing out cash shop features faster than ever. What changes are you referring to? How did you come by this information?
Major changes are coming to the NA servers when 6.0 releases. Haven't heard anything about EU servers yet, but that's really all I can say at the moment. Anyone on NA should set aside $25.
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On April 11 2014 09:13 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 08:50 Disengaged wrote:On April 10 2014 20:06 Gorsameth wrote:On April 10 2014 10:49 Disengaged wrote:On April 10 2014 09:14 Gorsameth wrote:On April 10 2014 09:09 Redox wrote:
I just looked up the release date for this and was very surprised to learn it is only december 2014. I played some WoW the beginning of this year, and already thought then that MoP is pretty much done with. I thought next addon would be in May or something.
What are you guys doing in the meantime over this year? Or is there content coming out after the garosh raid? Note the release date is "some time before december" which isnt the same thing ^^ Most people are thinking September. And yes SoO will last way to long and WoW is going to lose another few million subs because of it. Not like it matters. They will come back anyway. Its nothing new. Except history shows that's not true. Sure a lot of them will come back but numbers show that every time this happens a significant portion do stay away for good. Still doesn't really matter. They still make good money with 6-8 million subs. Along with expansion sales. Sure, some people get bored and take a break but they still come back to check out the new content but some people simply move on because it is time for them to. WoW hit its peak awhile ago and will never have 13-14 million subs again and the remaining subs are basically their constant average number. I'm not sure I'd say it doesn't matter. GW2 has much less sub's but makes more net profit than WoW does. WoW revenue has dropped about 80% year to date according to their financial reports and content suffers because of it. NCSoft pushes out more content than blizzard and it's because they make more net profit. There are also far less paying sub's than you think. Out of those 6-8m about 70% don't pay sub's. There are major changes coming in a few months to the servers and you will realize then just how badly things are going for Blizzard in the states. Its not a coincidence that they are selling 90s, taking preorders a year in advance, and pushing out cash shop features faster than ever.
Uh I think WoW made $213M in microtransactions alone in 2013, I doubt GW2 made as much as that.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-01-20-league-of-legends-2013-revenue-topped-USD600m-report
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On April 13 2014 04:58 Serejai wrote:
I ripped threat every pull as Moonkin all expansion up until and including during ToT normals. Its there for some specs at the start of an expansion but tapers off.
I had threat pulled off of me at the start of pulls during Staghelm when we were doing FL but thats about it. It's easy to lose aggro if they get any sort of lucky parry/dodge at the start when someone pops cooldowns.
If you get a couple hits on them or a devastate or two( i played a warrior) you'll never lose aggro unless you go afk or something
On May 14 2014 01:34 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2014 00:57 Squat wrote:On April 11 2014 09:13 Serejai wrote:On April 11 2014 08:50 Disengaged wrote:On April 10 2014 20:06 Gorsameth wrote:On April 10 2014 10:49 Disengaged wrote:On April 10 2014 09:14 Gorsameth wrote:On April 10 2014 09:09 Redox wrote:
I just looked up the release date for this and was very surprised to learn it is only december 2014. I played some WoW the beginning of this year, and already thought then that MoP is pretty much done with. I thought next addon would be in May or something.
What are you guys doing in the meantime over this year? Or is there content coming out after the garosh raid? Note the release date is "some time before december" which isnt the same thing ^^ Most people are thinking September. And yes SoO will last way to long and WoW is going to lose another few million subs because of it. Not like it matters. They will come back anyway. Its nothing new. Except history shows that's not true. Sure a lot of them will come back but numbers show that every time this happens a significant portion do stay away for good. Still doesn't really matter. They still make good money with 6-8 million subs. Along with expansion sales. Sure, some people get bored and take a break but they still come back to check out the new content but some people simply move on because it is time for them to. WoW hit its peak awhile ago and will never have 13-14 million subs again and the remaining subs are basically their constant average number. I'm not sure I'd say it doesn't matter. GW2 has much less sub's but makes more net profit than WoW does. WoW revenue has dropped about 80% year to date according to their financial reports and content suffers because of it. NCSoft pushes out more content than blizzard and it's because they make more net profit. There are also far less paying sub's than you think. Out of those 6-8m about 70% don't pay sub's. There are major changes coming in a few months to the servers and you will realize then just how badly things are going for Blizzard in the states. Its not a coincidence that they are selling 90s, taking preorders a year in advance, and pushing out cash shop features faster than ever. What changes are you referring to? How did you come by this information? Major changes are coming to the NA servers when 6.0 releases. Haven't heard anything about EU servers yet, but that's really all I can say at the moment. Anyone on NA should set aside $25.
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Is TL still active in this game? I PM'd farvacola about it but got no response.
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