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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 19:06:45
May 16 2014 19:02 GMT
#1901
On May 14 2014 01:34 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 00:57 Squat wrote:
On April 11 2014 09:13 Serejai wrote:
On April 11 2014 08:50 Disengaged wrote:
On April 10 2014 20:06 Gorsameth wrote:
On April 10 2014 10:49 Disengaged wrote:
On April 10 2014 09:14 Gorsameth wrote:
On April 10 2014 09:09 Redox wrote:
I just looked up the release date for this and was very surprised to learn it is only december 2014. I played some WoW the beginning of this year, and already thought then that MoP is pretty much done with. I thought next addon would be in May or something.
What are you guys doing in the meantime over this year? Or is there content coming out after the garosh raid?

Note the release date is "some time before december" which isnt the same thing ^^
Most people are thinking September.

And yes SoO will last way to long and WoW is going to lose another few million subs because of it.


Not like it matters. They will come back anyway. Its nothing new.

Except history shows that's not true. Sure a lot of them will come back but numbers show that every time this happens a significant portion do stay away for good.


Still doesn't really matter. They still make good money with 6-8 million subs. Along with expansion sales. Sure, some people get bored and take a break but they still come back to check out the new content but some people simply move on because it is time for them to.

WoW hit its peak awhile ago and will never have 13-14 million subs again and the remaining subs are basically their constant average number.

I'm not sure I'd say it doesn't matter. GW2 has much less sub's but makes more net profit than WoW does. WoW revenue has dropped about 80% year to date according to their financial reports and content suffers because of it. NCSoft pushes out more content than blizzard and it's because they make more net profit.

There are also far less paying sub's than you think. Out of those 6-8m about 70% don't pay sub's. There are major changes coming in a few months to the servers and you will realize then just how badly things are going for Blizzard in the states. Its not a coincidence that they are selling 90s, taking preorders a year in advance, and pushing out cash shop features faster than ever.

What changes are you referring to? How did you come by this information?


Major changes are coming to the NA servers when 6.0 releases. Haven't heard anything about EU servers yet, but that's really all I can say at the moment. Anyone on NA should set aside $25.


Yeah . . . sure.

Hard to take anyone serious on the internet without something to back up what they are saying.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
May 16 2014 21:15 GMT
#1902
On May 17 2014 03:58 EchOne wrote:
Is TL still active in this game? I PM'd farvacola about it but got no response.


Nope, killed Garrosh then everyone stopped showing up, so the few of us left split up.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24755 Posts
May 17 2014 00:04 GMT
#1903
I leave for training and the guild falls apart! Maybe we can get it back together for WoD... that was the goal all along aside from some MoP fun.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
June 04 2014 23:33 GMT
#1904
Blizzard sent out Alpha invites and whatnot to random people and to popular streamers, etc.

I knew they'd do have something like a day or two after Wildstar officially launched because they always do that lol

The hype though is reaaaaaaaaal :D
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 07:42:38
June 05 2014 07:34 GMT
#1905
OMG SICKK xD

Thursday is day of nothing on SC2 wise too so gg. Alpha streams all day :D
Currently Method guys streaming :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
June 05 2014 14:56 GMT
#1906
On June 05 2014 16:34 Pandemona wrote:
OMG SICKK xD

Thursday is day of nothing on SC2 wise too so gg. Alpha streams all day :D
Currently Method guys streaming :D


Homestory cup?
월요 날 재미있
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 05 2014 15:02 GMT
#1907
Yeah but the group that looks entertaining for me is DeMuslim which is after im home XD

I get no sound so HSC isn't the same whilst watching at work
I can watch WoD alpha at work fine without sound.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
June 05 2014 15:21 GMT
#1908
On June 06 2014 00:02 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah but the group that looks entertaining for me is DeMuslim which is after im home XD

I get no sound so HSC isn't the same whilst watching at work
I can watch WoD alpha at work fine without sound.


Understandable!

What did people used to do at work?
월요 날 재미있
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 05:56:59
June 11 2014 05:54 GMT
#1909
Is eu guild still up? Really on chamber of aspects? Of all servers? If its active on any other server i'd be interested assuming 3+ raiddays and active progressing in WOD etc. I do only mythic.
as useful as teasalt
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 11 2014 07:40 GMT
#1910
Na the EU guild kinda died. The server isn't the issue to be honest, its the home of Project Apocolypse for a start who are no mugs in the raiding scene and there are a few 25man HC guilds still going. It was just players who wanted to play socially made it hard to find raid days to fit everyone in.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
June 11 2014 13:53 GMT
#1911
Hey guys i'm back ! :p

I was reading through the alpha forum and apparently blizzard is removing cast on movement and that make me sad (as i just do cast lighting while soloing instance).

What are your thoughts on the matter ? Apparently (if i read right) they are removing for all classes the spells you can cast while moving in favor of instant and procs.

How do you feal about that ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
June 11 2014 14:26 GMT
#1912
Terrible, when I was around the only thing you could cast while walking were grenades, but I found it exceptionally cool.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 14:28:45
June 11 2014 14:28 GMT
#1913
You can still casthunter spells while moving i believe. Steady shot and aimed shot looked moveable. Might just be steadyshot though not sure.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
June 11 2014 14:32 GMT
#1914
You guys have accessed to alpha ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 14:34:31
June 11 2014 14:34 GMT
#1915
Yeah hunters are the only ones keeping their mobility (they can do their whole rotation on the move which is dumb imo).

I'm ok with ranged losing instants and casts on the move because a) soo is too ranged favoured and b) it keeps an abomination of a fight like Thok from happening ever again (hopefully).
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22112 Posts
June 11 2014 14:34 GMT
#1916
Hunters can indeed still do a lot of there "spells" while moving but that kinda the Hunter thing.
Overall I'm happy with them removing a large part of mobility. Its been getting out of control in MoP and could do with more toning down.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 11 2014 14:35 GMT
#1917
Streams everywhere on Twitch Rude.
http://www.twitch.tv/sips_
www.twitch.tv/alinity
http://www.twitch.tv/sintorra
www.twitch.tv/sandram0913
http://www.twitch.tv/w_lapin

Just a few that currently streaming it Check out the wow section and you will see quite a few streaming it. Maybe not much today as it is reset day :D YAY RESET DAY :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
June 11 2014 14:36 GMT
#1918
Oh they can stream ? I thought it was NDA.

Thanks Panda.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
June 11 2014 16:02 GMT
#1919
Unless I'm missing some new development, they're only removing some of the instants for healers. They're not going to touch the proc-based instants for most dps, because doing that would require a huge revamp of almost every dps class.

Many of the ranged dps classes, outside of hunters, don't really have optimal move-on-cast rotations. Fire mages have scorch, but would much rather turret fireballs in most pve situations. Mages in general have ice floes, but that has limited usage (3x in 15 seconds). Aff locks have a lot of dots, sure, but their shortest dot is UA, which has a cast time, filler is malefic grasp that cannot be cast on the move if you take the 2nd dark soul (which most do), and their biggest dps spell is haunt, which again, has a cast time. Destro locks have fel flame which is shit, so otherwise, they pretty much have to turret chaos bolts and incinerates. Shadow priests and moonkins have shit mobility all around. I can go on and on, but overall, if you actually think about it, ranged dps excluding hunters in MoP weren't actually all that mobile in pve situations if you want to play optimally (which is the key word here).
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 16:12:41
June 11 2014 16:12 GMT
#1920
It just created a situation that was rather poisonous for raiding, where there was no real reason for melee to be brought other than loot distribution and certain rather gimmicky things like smoke bomb, banners etc. By taking out some of the more game breaking utility and cutting back on ranged DPS mobility, it opens up raids for melee to be brought for the same of being melee, not just having a few overpowered buttons that compensated for being a burden on the healers.

It's not quite as bad as many people say, but it's bad enough that something had to be done. It was either keep giving melee insanely useful/borderline mandatory things like HP shout/banner/tranq/bombs etc, or attack the core issue that there was virtually no downside in attacking from 40 yards away, but having to be right next to the boss was often a severe liability.

It's not perfect, but I think it's necessary and the best overall solution. Personally I've watched some alpha streams and WoD actually looks kind of fun. I'm considering dusting off the old account when Warlords hits the shelves around this time next year.
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