EPTMages, Kirin Tor. Dalaran is the HQ of the Kirin Tor so it has their Class Hall?
[wow] Warlords of Draenor - Page 558
| Forum Index > General Games |
Add yourself to the player list | ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22208 Posts
Mages, Kirin Tor. Dalaran is the HQ of the Kirin Tor so it has their Class Hall? | ||
|
Grettin
42384 Posts
On August 07 2015 23:39 Acrofales wrote: If Paladins can hang out in LHC, why not use Kharazan for mages (other than the fact that it is ginormous)? Light's Hope Chapel is nothing compared to Karazhan though. Theres nothing mystic about the place anymore for starters and nowadays it's simply a base. Karazhan on the other hand is still very much surrounded by magic, Medivh's spirit and supposedly something else (Karazhan's clean-up before WoD). There's still Khadgar in the picture as well. Not to mention the theory that Lower Karazhan is actually real, which in the future could be (big) part of the lore. Burning Legion to use it (or Karazhan) as a portal for invasion(s) later, for example. If i'd have to bet what Karazhan would have to do with Mages, it's probably going to be something about their artifacts. "However, the brave and foolish are still relentlessly drawn to Karazhan, tempted by rumors of unspeakable secrets and powerful treasures." From WoW.com about Karazhan, In Burning Crusade On August 07 2015 23:40 Gorsameth wrote: The interview mentioned Karazan would be important. Kinda makes me thing it wont be the Mage Class Hall. Mages, Kirin Tor. Dalaran is the HQ of the Kirin Tor so it has their Class Hall? This is what i think too. Mages probably have their own tower in Dalaran somewhere, if not some other significant place (other than previously speculated) for mages. | ||
|
sh1RoKen
Russian Federation93 Posts
| ||
|
FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On August 07 2015 22:50 Fusilero wrote: http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/13199-wow-legion-details-at-gamescom-interview-with-tom-chilton-ion-hazzikostas/ Interview with Tom Chilton and Ion Hazzikostas on more details. Notable things are no weapon drops, only your artifact weapons. Demon Hunters only have one weapon type (glaives) which given the aforementioned no weapon drops thing probably means little. Karazhan will be of importance and Khadgar is now leading the Kirin'Tor. Class wise hunters are massively changed as survival is now melee with pet, beast mastery is ranged with pet and marksman is no pet while demonolgy will be more focused on the pets than metamorphosis. Perhaps the news that people would be most eager to hear, class halls are multiplayer and garrisons are staying in Draenor. I hope i get this fucking horse in Kharazan after farming it for more than a year. If they redo the dungeon and delete the horse i'm going to be pissed ! I just hope that you can transmog the weapons because frost mage staff looks like... well it's ugly.In a game that's all about loot. "deleting" loot is kind of weird. | ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
That's because melee hunters don't make a lot of sense. Hunters don't walk up to their prey and then grapple with it. They use guns, bows, throwing spears, blowdarts or basically anything they can use from range in order to NOT get face to face with a nasty clawed, fanged, muscled and strong beast. Hunters in classic+TBC (little bit WOTLK but not as much) were on some level ranged+melee hybrids where you'd have at least 2 melee range abilities on your main action bar at all times, especially as survival. I guess they're just snapping back from making them absolutely ranged only with no more having both weapons. Glad to hear MM = no pet. I don't really enjoy having 10% of my damage come from a pet. BM is fine doing most damage from pet and the non-pet damage being heavily based on Barrage and Kill Shot - but Marksmanship, worrying about babysitting the pet and telling it to attack the right targets instead of it trying to run to whatever you shoot at every time you attack something just wasn't fun for me. I will definitely be rolling a demon hunter. The concepts appeal to me even more than death knights did (which i find don't suit me all too well after their cata, MOP and WOD changes) and: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Mz47iDkm.jpg) you can never have enough horny night elf girls with double jumps! Also Sylvanas: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/m2e42zY.jpg) WOTLK model ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xe1S9BW.jpg) Is this in-engine in WoW? probably improved textures+polycount as well as adding armor (looks great!) but DAT LIGHTING | ||
|
ref4
2933 Posts
On August 08 2015 00:09 sh1RoKen wrote: Why are they killing open world pvp? What if I want to pvp not only on BG or arenas? Why should a PvP character be weaker than PvE in open world PvP? probably something to do with game engine limitation when calculating damage done when an AoE skill hits both a player and a NPC mob. | ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22208 Posts
On August 08 2015 00:42 ref4 wrote: probably something to do with game engine limitation when calculating damage done when an AoE skill hits both a player and a NPC mob. Wha? I assume his point is that PvP gear is lower ilvl and scales up inside BG/Arena so in World PvP you get owned because of your lower ilvl compared to raiders. The answer to that is imo that world pvp is an illusion. Yes it sometimes happens and then it can be great but 90% of the time outdoor pvp is some guy getting ganked which isnt fair to begin with. | ||
|
Grettin
42384 Posts
| ||
|
sh1RoKen
Russian Federation93 Posts
On August 08 2015 01:18 Gorsameth wrote: Wha? I assume his point is that PvP gear is lower ilvl and scales up inside BG/Arena so in World PvP you get owned because of your lower ilvl compared to raiders. The answer to that is imo that world pvp is an illusion. Yes it sometimes happens and then it can be great but 90% of the time outdoor pvp is some guy getting ganked which isnt fair to begin with. So, if I am a top arena player in the world (In top PvP gear ofc) and I am getting ganked by above average PvE guy and I am getting 1-shotted because his PvE gear is better than my PvP gear in FUCKING PVP. PVE GEAR IS BETTER IN PVP THAN PVP GEAR! That is totally fair! | ||
|
Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On August 08 2015 04:36 sh1RoKen wrote: So, if I am a top arena player in the world (In top PvP gear ofc) and I am getting ganked by above average PvE guy and I am getting 1-shotted because his PvE gear is better than my PvP gear in FUCKING PVP. PVE GEAR IS BETTER IN PVP THAN PVP GEAR! That is totally fair! I mean we have been dealing with the reverse for years I am the great Drazerk i am the top healer on my realm all bow before my healing might. Oh shit I just got 2 shot outside the raid by some random asshole who pvp'd for a week. Pretty much the only time I ever see pvp on my PVP realm is ganking PVE people when they are waiting for raids or a high level person killing level 30s over and over Personally i'm glad world PVP is dying it basically died when flying mounts got added in TBC | ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22208 Posts
On August 08 2015 04:36 sh1RoKen wrote: So, if I am a top arena player in the world (In top PvP gear ofc) and I am getting ganked by above average PvE guy and I am getting 1-shotted because his PvE gear is better than my PvP gear in FUCKING PVP. PVE GEAR IS BETTER IN PVP THAN PVP GEAR! That is totally fair! As i said. World PvP is an illusion anyway but yes that is a consequence of the system they have chosen. WoW is obviously not capable of dynamically adjusting item level (finally got your point from earlier btw. Sorry) and if they keep PvE and PvP gear equal itemlevel then at some point one type of playing is going to be forced to play something they dont want because an item from the other side is optimal. I dont think Blizzard values world PvP much either so the price is in their position worth it. Edit: And as Drazek said. Before you would die in full Mythic (equivalent) gear because some PvP'er came along in his blues with Resilience. | ||
|
Redox
Germany24794 Posts
| ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
By TBC there were far less people in the leveling zones and it didn't happen nearly as much. There was a decent amount of random stuff in the places like Halaa but really not that much, they were dead quite a lot of the time. Was more like something that came up once or twice a week than something you could do for hours every day I don't really have any decent world pvp memories post-WOTLK as someone who didn't pvp a ton at the time i liked wintergrasp a lot, not sure why they stopped doing vehicle mechanics 5 years ago. It was the best world pvp zone that i've seen and got a big fight going like every 3 hours. Ashran is permanantly on but it's permanantly boring too. I think world pvp died largely because of more and more people spending their hours on max level chars. It's been quite a while since WoW heavily incentivized you to spend 10 hours a week doing stuff in a populated open world zone - you can go farm, but you'll be at some place alone because nobody else is farming that material enough for the farm spots to be busy. You won't be at the throne of elements with 9 other dudes trying to get Primal Fire (i had uncounted kills and deaths there) | ||
|
Grettin
42384 Posts
| ||
|
SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
On August 07 2015 18:45 Gorsameth wrote: I believe there is still a free trial thing (limited to level 20) that you can play. Additionally your inactive account can also play characters up to 20 without re-activating. To play past 20 you would indeed need to buy WoW for him and pay a sub for your account. All unknown at this time. Tho I expect a release in the Feb-May range but thats 100% not based on facts Why do people PvP in Call of Duty? The gear rewards are seemingly gone, they specifically mentioned they didn't like that a higher ranked player was more powerful because of the higher rank. In return you get cosmetic rewards of varies kinds by repeatedly gaining the new ranks (like Call of Duty Prestige system). I wonder a bit about the gear myself. There still needs to be some PvP gear to put everyone on an even playing field and stop PvE gear from being superior. I would guess they keep the current system of cheap Rare quality gear that scales up in PvP and remove the better Epic version (turning it into a transmog reward instead) Well the problem with that comparison is that in CoD, it is all PvP. In WoW, you have the option of PvP and PvE. So I can PvP and get these cosmetic which at the end is just really empty rewards OR I can PvE and get set pieces along with legendary items. Even though legendary has lost their meaning over a few expansion, they are still legendary and are pretty damn cool or maybe fancy trinkets is fine. I will admit that with this change, PvP will be more balance than it could ever be which is good but without any actual reward, I have a hard time envisioning anyone actually PvPing, more specifically Arena, for long when there are so much other things to do in WoW once you reach max honor level. | ||
|
SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
| ||
|
SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
| ||
|
Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
Everything they announced is cool and all and it sounds amazing . . . IF some of the stuff actually makes it into the game and doesn't get cut then I'll get my excitement back. After 10 years, WoD finally blew up the trust I had for Blizzard. | ||
|
lestye
United States4206 Posts
On August 08 2015 17:28 Disengaged wrote: First time in 10 years that I'm not excited for an expansion. Well, I mean not that excited as I was for other expansions. During Legions panel I was just staring at the screen not feeling hyped or happy or jumping out of my chair showing my excitement I was just sitting in my chair and staring and being like "Yeah . . . thats cool but so was stuff in WoD that was cut" Everything they announced is cool and all and it sounds amazing . . . IF some of the stuff actually makes it into the game and doesn't get cut then I'll get my excitement back. After 10 years, WoD finally blew up the trust I had for Blizzard. I mean, is the issue you have is that you're skeptical because of the the features promised will actually get into the game, or are you not interested what they're promising to begin with? I'm hyped for it, but I 100% get your reluctance. WoD was all about moving goal posts and cutting corners. For an expansion I think we could say it took away more than it gave to the game as a whole. Idk, I do have my reservations, I love the idea of class identity, and class quests being more of a thing, but if its supposed to be how we're supposed to be progressing our characters, I wonder what kind of activities that will include. On August 07 2015 23:40 Gorsameth wrote: The interview mentioned Karazan would be important. Kinda makes me thing it wont be the Mage Class Hall. Mages, Kirin Tor. Dalaran is the HQ of the Kirin Tor so it has their Class Hall? I hope its Kara, one of the cool things is that they made it sound like all the class halls were scattered around the world, and thats what I want more than anything, is more reasons to be out in the world, and I saw a screenshot with Acheus floating on the map of Broken Isles, and having 2 out of 12 classes' have a homebase so nearby is kinda lame to what it could be. | ||
|
Noocta
France12578 Posts
I hope Surv is a lot of fun, even tho BM is my favorite spec usually. | ||
| ||
