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On May 17 2015 15:39 Mysticesper wrote:
Well, drop rates are so high compared to previous.
In vanilla you had like 2-3 items drop off of a boss for a 40 man raid.
TBC it was about the same, but for 25 instead.
Now it's 1 item per 5 people in a raid, tier is 1 per 10.
Pretty sure tier is 1 per 7 or so.
When we raid with 15 people we get 2 tier token.
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Yes we have got 3 token many times and peaked ~26 players
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well 1 per 10 as in.. 10% chance based on number of people. so a 50% chance for two in a 15 man raid, 60% chance for three in a 26 man raid.
We ran with 22 some, and sometimes we get 5 + 3 items off a boss, and it just feels like a lot compared to our usual 18-20 because of the added chance for extra items.
I could be wrong, I just know the 1 per 5 (20% per additional) is factual, I don't know the tier numbers for certain.
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First i've heard of tier loot being calculated separately TBH
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On May 18 2015 04:34 Cyro wrote:
First i've heard of tier loot being calculated separately TBH
Tier tokens have always been separate from the rest of loot. (X tier + Y non-tier items from a boss)
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My last random dungeon group couldn't complete Grimrail Depot...I thought by waiting 4 months people wouldn't suck.
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On May 18 2015 05:06 Alabasern wrote:
My last random dungeon group couldn't complete Grimrail Depot...I thought by waiting 4 months people wouldn't suck.
Everyone that doesn't suck has already finished leveling every character they care for :p
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I'm doing my dungeon quest chain at ilvl 654, and this is why I don't queue.
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Whelp, mythic maidens is a massive cock block :\
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On May 18 2015 09:01 bo1b wrote:
Whelp, mythic maidens is a massive cock block :\
Run 2 disc priests. Makes the fight a joke
You basically ignore all the mechanics other than the land mines which you shouldn't get hit by anyway. Just make sure cannon bitch is going into her ship phase as you push over to 20% so you never have to deal with the cannons
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On May 18 2015 04:36 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2015 04:34 Cyro wrote:
First i've heard of tier loot being calculated separately TBH Tier tokens have always been separate from the rest of loot. (X tier + Y non-tier items from a boss)
There is also a hidden clause not many know about, which is conqueror doesn't ever drop.
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On May 18 2015 09:01 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2015 09:01 bo1b wrote:
Whelp, mythic maidens is a massive cock block :\ Run 2 disc priests. Makes the fight a joke
Oh serious? hmm
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On May 18 2015 09:02 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2015 09:01 Drazerk wrote:On May 18 2015 09:01 bo1b wrote:
Whelp, mythic maidens is a massive cock block :\ Run 2 disc priests. Makes the fight a joke Oh serious? hmm
Double CoW means the blade flurry / blood rituals can just be soaked by one person each and the rest of the raid can stack in the middle of the room only moving for rapid fire
Combat log from my first kill on them - https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yCvqPY4cJ6DQbfrG#fight=12&type=summary
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joined a 2 day per week 8/10 mythic guild and starting to work on furnace
the difference in skill of the players is just hilarious
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On May 18 2015 09:02 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2015 04:36 Gorsameth wrote:On May 18 2015 04:34 Cyro wrote:
First i've heard of tier loot being calculated separately TBH Tier tokens have always been separate from the rest of loot. (X tier + Y non-tier items from a boss) There is also a hidden clause not many know about, which is conqueror doesn't ever drop.
never got protector but one time out of like.. 25 nef kills in cata
shit was awful
On May 16 2015 11:29 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +You need to try levelling as aff/demo in an instance before making conclusions tbh Have not matched with a lock. When there are warriors, hunters and people of the same class as me with full heirlooms doing under 1/5'th of my damage (if they're even at the keyboard) i get annoyed - and it's prevalent in low level dungeons. It's not like it's hard when you have only two buttons, they're just lazy. They're all soloable but it's so much faster with 5 strong players. Casters are just bad because a good weapon can easily double the damage of those classes/specs that scale from weapon damage, but having 10 more int doesn't change a caster in a big way. Show nested quote +Edit - I've done this since Cata - I haven't even played WoD - it must be super easy the way you guys are talking Yea it is, the 6.0 scaling made 1-90 content into a 10x bigger joke than 90-100 (which is still a joke, i solo'd all of the group quests and group rares easily on a MM hunter using only gold from vendoring/questing during leveling)
when i was leveling my like 2nd or 3rd warrior with full heirlooms this time(pants everything) you could almost one shot most dungeon mobs with mortal strike
i dont know how they dont do damage its beyond simple lol
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It's actually pretty simple.
They don't do damage, because you oneshot everything. Anything with cast times, dots or dps that requires any kind of setup is pretty much worthless when warriors, rets, DKs and to lesser extent the other melee specs are present. Considering tanks are melee by definition and horribly overtuned for the lower levels means that everybody else competes for even less damage share.
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You can see this effect 90-100 as well, tanks have good base damage and most likely aoe everything, so they'll end up being really high on damage in those dungeons, any class with any setup or dot basis is just boned.
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On May 19 2015 00:50 Mikau wrote:
It's actually pretty simple.
They don't do damage, because you oneshot everything. Anything with cast times, dots or dps that requires any kind of setup is pretty much worthless when warriors, rets, DKs and to lesser extent the other melee specs are present. Considering tanks are melee by definition and horribly overtuned for the lower levels means that everybody else competes for even less damage share.
thought he was talking about warriors and such not doing any damage i was like how
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