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DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 10:21:17
December 10 2014 10:17 GMT
#6521
Yeah they have, both of them probably just cba log out to update wowprogress because first bosses have been killed already. Method seems to have updated now with Kargath down.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
December 10 2014 10:18 GMT
#6522
Don't forget about Nihilum! Spirit of Illidan will carry them to victory!

Any news on raid compositions or glitchy tactics?
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 10:54:36
December 10 2014 10:30 GMT
#6523
http://www.twitch.tv/aleuuh
This is a French guild who seem "decent" and are on Twin Ogron streaming it.


So many German guilds are currently raiding!
TG Gaming and Moonzlinge both 2/7 Mythic and Refuge 1/7.

Two alliance guilds join the race. BIZZNO a Swedish guild is 2/7 and the Russian alliance guild (not even going to type it) is 2/7 as well.


Down goes Brackenspore. Method move onto 3/7 Mythic! And lead the European charge!

http://millenium-tv-mmo.nexus.mnium.org/player.html?volume=1&autoplay=1&quality=720

Blatty the French Mage is re streaming Method kills when he is allowed to. I believe they do when like 5-10 guilds killed said boss on Mythic.
Watching it and all i can see is LOL that dps
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 11:27:46
December 10 2014 11:25 GMT
#6524
Kills me that WoWprogress can't automatically update the mythic progress. Have to wait for guilds to manually update it basically.

Would be cool to see the progress in real time. Understandable that top guilds don't stream it tho..
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 11:48:44
December 10 2014 11:47 GMT
#6525
Them mythic bosses are dropping fast, i expected it to take it longer

first boss 40 man in WS took ~47 days after the boss before it was killed, IIRC - i wasn't expecting that, but half of the bosses dead during the first days raids seems a bit fast - unless these guys are really not that undergeared or lacking experience with the fights, so they don't have any barriers holding them back
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 10 2014 11:50 GMT
#6526
Yeah it isn't blind like it was back then, the beta had test of all bosses i believe. Also this isn't even a tier raid so some people dont classify it as the major world first, that will be the last boss in Foundry.

Still only 4 bosses down with people with gear of 565+ in a raid with 7 bosses and hardly any trash. 12 hours of solid play for NA and max is 4 bosses down isn't "that" under powering imo. Depends what Europe can do in the next 12 hours i guess.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22584 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 12:21:58
December 10 2014 12:21 GMT
#6527
On December 10 2014 20:47 Cyro wrote:
Them mythic bosses are dropping fast, i expected it to take it longer

first boss 40 man in WS took ~47 days after the boss before it was killed, IIRC - i wasn't expecting that, but half of the bosses dead during the first days raids seems a bit fast - unless these guys are really not that undergeared or lacking experience with the fights, so they don't have any barriers holding them back

Item Level: 668.07 (25-man) for Method as per wowprogress. plus they did all these bosses on the PTR so they only have to check if anything changed since then.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
December 10 2014 12:27 GMT
#6528
On December 10 2014 21:21 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 20:47 Cyro wrote:
Them mythic bosses are dropping fast, i expected it to take it longer

first boss 40 man in WS took ~47 days after the boss before it was killed, IIRC - i wasn't expecting that, but half of the bosses dead during the first days raids seems a bit fast - unless these guys are really not that undergeared or lacking experience with the fights, so they don't have any barriers holding them back

Item Level: 668.07 (25-man) for Method as per wowprogress. plus they did all these bosses on the PTR so they only have to check if anything changed since then.


Fair enough, but with those circumstances i can't get behind being excited at all for being "first"
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22584 Posts
December 10 2014 12:29 GMT
#6529
On December 10 2014 21:27 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 21:21 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 10 2014 20:47 Cyro wrote:
Them mythic bosses are dropping fast, i expected it to take it longer

first boss 40 man in WS took ~47 days after the boss before it was killed, IIRC - i wasn't expecting that, but half of the bosses dead during the first days raids seems a bit fast - unless these guys are really not that undergeared or lacking experience with the fights, so they don't have any barriers holding them back

Item Level: 668.07 (25-man) for Method as per wowprogress. plus they did all these bosses on the PTR so they only have to check if anything changed since then.


Fair enough, but with those circumstances i can't get behind being excited at all for being "first"

Since the real contenders all practice on the PTR and have such high ilvls going in its still more or less fair race between them.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
December 10 2014 12:38 GMT
#6530
First raid is pretty much always like this, but it looks like Butcher maybe a real boss after all, apart from Margok hopefully. BRF should be more interesting when it opens.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 10 2014 12:42 GMT
#6531
Still no updates on WoWprogress for Paragon
14 EU guilds with 2/7 Mythic
Method only EU guild with 3 down
21 (without including Paragon) with 1/7 Mythic already!
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 12:47:50
December 10 2014 12:46 GMT
#6532
Butcher is a gear check. As long as your strength lies in your execution (which it obviously does for all top guilds) it's always gonna be beneficial to skip him until as late as possible when you have more gear. Skill can make you kill Tectus or Bracken when undergeared, but it will only take you so far on Butcher.

Granted, boss tuning is what matters the most in the end. And theres always gonna be those bosses tuned slightly on the easier/harder side than the rest.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22584 Posts
December 10 2014 12:46 GMT
#6533
On December 10 2014 21:42 Pandemona wrote:
Still no updates on WoWprogress for Paragon
14 EU guilds with 2/7 Mythic
Method only EU guild with 3 down
21 (without including Paragon) with 1/7 Mythic already!

Paragons is doing heroic atm to gear up more. They will join the race later today
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 10 2014 12:47 GMT
#6534
Ahh yeah my friend just told me that too. Make sense, wonder if it will work :o
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
December 10 2014 13:33 GMT
#6535
So method is 4/7 now. Tectus down
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 13:35:37
December 10 2014 13:34 GMT
#6536
Hype!!
They have been raiding since 10am GMT i think though or might of been 9am GMT so within 5hours have 4 bosses down. Not exactly lightning pace XD
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 13:59:48
December 10 2014 13:59 GMT
#6537
On December 10 2014 22:34 Pandemona wrote:
Hype!!
They have been raiding since 10am GMT i think though or might of been 9am GMT so within 5hours have 4 bosses down. Not exactly lightning pace XD



10:00 CET

5 hours for 4 bosses? Nobody's finished Datascape yet after 6 months of raiding 15-45 hours a week

it's pretty damn fast
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
December 10 2014 14:03 GMT
#6538
Was gonna say... 4/7 in 5 hours seems ridiculous
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 14:06:44
December 10 2014 14:06 GMT
#6539
On December 10 2014 22:59 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 22:34 Pandemona wrote:
Hype!!
They have been raiding since 10am GMT i think though or might of been 9am GMT so within 5hours have 4 bosses down. Not exactly lightning pace XD



10:00 CET

5 hours for 4 bosses? Nobody's finished Datascape yet after 6 months of raiding 15-45 hours a week

it's pretty damn fast


Guilds at the top level have had a chance to practice the encounters for hours beforehand. I'd be surprised if it took guilds like Method longer than people seem to expect.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 10 2014 14:12 GMT
#6540
I can only repeat myself about people complaining that clearing raids is going too fast these days and how that shows that bosses are easier these days than back then.
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On December 07 2014 00:59 Warri wrote:
You know, this complaint always comes from people who think classic and tbc where somehow magically better. That being stuck on a single boss for weeks because you needed to farm up a skill (2nd boss mc) or just enough equip to break a dps-wall, was fun or good design. It's not. Classic and TBC werent harder, they were buggy as shit and people sucked and raiding overall sucked. 30min running between tries (MC, AQ), single group buffing, farming food and potions and shards for warlocks, all that stuff took so much more time and was not fun, nor difficult. It provided nothing and drained time that you now have for other stuff, like leveling and equipping alts.
Raiding today is much more streamlined. You wipe, you take the teleporter, you put down a feast for the whole group, everyone presses one buff button. 3 minutes and youre good to go (of course most of the times it still takes 10minutes because theres always slackers and especially casual guilds never call them out on it). And with the whole dual spec you can swap from tanks to dd or from heal to dd on the fly without dropping your member from the raid and if its really really necessary you can still swap one.
Then theres the whole PTR thing. The progress-raiding happens on PTR, when its not so public. Of course once the content is officially released the top raid guilds already know at least the first half of the dungeon and plow through it with their experience.
And last but not least, the top hardcore guilds dont have specfic raidtimes anymore. When new content is released, every time is raid time. They dont stop until they clear it. Raid food sleep raid food sleep.

Edit: on top of that, better raid tools, especially LOGS, provide detailed insight into why a wipe happened, what can be done to fix it and lets you call out retards who for the love of their life can not move out of obvious void zones. You do it twice in a hardcore guild? Youre out of the raid, if not the guild. You do it in your casual guild? Who fucking cares, everyone sucks and no one cares. Someone doesnt do enough dps? Good guilds notice and ask you to get good or you get booted (if you for some reason managed to get into the guild with your shit dps). Casual guilds dont care, they wipe till magic happens or till they get better equip.

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