EPT[wow] Warlords of Draenor - Page 321
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Alabasern
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caelym
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DCRed
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On December 09 2014 14:58 caelym wrote: I was excited about resto shaman buffs, then all we got was a tiny buff to ascendance -_- That's not buff to ascendance it's to all healing and more than small buff like Blizz said. Resto shaman wasn't really behind that much at all | ||
Teoita
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On December 09 2014 10:17 Duka08 wrote: Wow not a single thing for Arms haha, damn. Well guess I'll stick to fury for now. Fire mages lookin serious yo. Teoita what you think? http://altered-time.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=826 Decent spec, will become great with 4t17, but still not the greatest single target (so kind of a nono if you are struggling with Butcher hc). Might try it next week. | ||
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caelym
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On December 09 2014 16:35 DCRed wrote: That's not buff to ascendance it's to all healing and more than small buff like Blizz said. Resto shaman wasn't really behind that much at all my bad, I read restorative mists not waves. this is better. anyway resto shaman was and still is way behind druids and holy priests in our aoe healing niche. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Will love to see the new sims now or have a look at some of the better players i use for benchmarks. Fury buff for one looks extreme man, bloodthirst at 40% to enrage you will be crazy. 10% increase in execute is going to make sudden death pretty op as well. Then the two filler spells got hit for 30% buffs too wow. Mage buffs look pretty strong too, 25% buff to our weak frostbolt which is supposed to be weak without spell power ? These buffs seem like they will be needed to be nerfed again soon. Oh well, we shall see. HAPPY MYTHIC DAY AMERICA :D | ||
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Kreb
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On December 09 2014 17:52 Pandemona wrote: These buffs seem WAY TOO MUCH to me. Unless literally everyone was not performing to the dps required in there blue gear i dont know. Will love to see the new sims now or have a look at some of the better players i use for benchmarks. Fury buff for one looks extreme man, bloodthirst at 40% to enrage you will be crazy. 10% increase in execute is going to make sudden death pretty op as well. Then the two filler spells got hit for 30% buffs too wow. Mage buffs look pretty strong too, 25% buff to our weak frostbolt which is supposed to be weak without spell power ? These buffs seem like they will be needed to be nerfed again soon. Oh well, we shall see. HAPPY MYTHIC DAY AMERICA :D 25% sounds a lot, but its one spell. I fired up literally the first logs I could find from Highmaul and on the three logs i checked frostbolt was 8, 9 and 11% or the DPS. 25% buff to a spell that does in the 10% area of your DPS (~2.5% damage increase) is nothing amazing. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
I'll guess i'll see some logs from mythic later :D | ||
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Redox
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On the other hand I feel my Mistweaver still needs some love. Especially in PvP he is a joke, except I am doing something very wrong. | ||
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Cyro
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Teoita
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Cyro
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On December 09 2014 20:44 Teoita wrote: Frostbolt has little to do with a Frost Mage's burst. That comes from spamming IL, FFB and IN or triggering Frost Bomb on Prysmatic Crystal. If you are casting lots of frostbolts during an opener you are terrible. I have no idea why you are so obsessed over the first 30 seconds of fights that last for minutes. Yea i know that~ Before they specified the buffs i was a little concerned. Just because it feels like probably the biggest flaw of the spec that i'm forced to play right now. I talked to three guilds and all of them said 2h frost is too much worse than unholy for you to take it unless you're literally carrying the guild and way better than everyone else. Kinda a kick in the teeth because i was excited to play my wonderful fire mage and frost DK again~ these patch changes help a LOT with that | ||
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Teoita
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Cyro
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On December 09 2014 20:48 Teoita wrote: Eh 2h frost just got 7% to a bunch of skills, it might be fine now 2h frost will be on par, maybe even better than unholy single target. The main problems are: 1; The best stat for unholy, mastery, is kinda bad for 2h frost which does mostly physical and not frost damage. That means in unholy gear, i don't think i can actually switch spec and gain damage for something like Butcher. Mastery is better for dual wield frost, but i can't take weapons from others who need them in order to run that - i just got a 645 1h from garrison, so i might still play with it. 2; Unholy pulls ahead by a LOT, talking like 25 maybe even 40 percent when hitting 3 targets consistently, but more when dealing with mass AOE. Dual wield frost hangs closer, but 2h frost is crippled and that's the main problem with using it - Unholy, especially mastery stacking, is crazy good against 3+ targets http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings#666,real,3 that link can maybe explain why guild leaders see "2h frost" and "aoe" in the same sentence and freak out a lot and want you to play unholy If they just nerfed unholy AOE or rebalanced defile etc i wouldn't even be mad | ||
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Teoita
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And it's not like DK's are the only class with widely different stat priorities for different specs, pretty much any class that has multiple dps specs works like that | ||
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Cyro
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On December 09 2014 20:57 Teoita wrote: Come on Noxxic is awful, wait until the next release for simcraft And it's not like DK's are the only class with widely different stat priorities for different specs, pretty much any class that has multiple dps specs works like that Well, i know like 5 people who say Noxxic is awful, 5 who say simcraft is awful, 5 who say mr. robot is awful etc  I'm aware, but with mage fire vs arcane etc at mid to end of WOTLK played quite differently, so did fire and frost in early cata. Right now unholy is kinda like a better version of frost with no weakness, gotta see if new 2h numbers are good | ||
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