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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 12:04:05
December 09 2014 12:02 GMT
#6421
Simcraft has already been updated
It is again useless though as the 630 run sims are based with 3/3 upgraded weapons from crafted on fury warrior for example. As well as using trinkets u can get from 630 garrison missions.

Then if you use the T17 665 one that is again useless as we are not in T17 BRF gear yet nor have set bonuses xD

Does look like fury is the best spec now for warriors though.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 12:07:46
December 09 2014 12:06 GMT
#6422
Or you could just import your character and sim that. Or chance the gear manually.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 09 2014 12:08 GMT
#6423
Yes but the downloader hasn't been updated yet or something i was reading xD
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21976 Posts
December 09 2014 12:08 GMT
#6424
On December 09 2014 21:00 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 20:57 Teoita wrote:
Come on Noxxic is awful, wait until the next release for simcraft

And it's not like DK's are the only class with widely different stat priorities for different specs, pretty much any class that has multiple dps specs works like that


Well, i know like 5 people who say Noxxic is awful, 5 who say simcraft is awful, 5 who say mr. robot is awful etc

I'm aware, but with mage fire vs arcane etc at mid to end of WOTLK played quite differently, so did fire and frost in early cata. Right now unholy is kinda like a better version of frost with no weakness, gotta see if new 2h numbers are good

Simcraft you can check yourself to see if it is correct, its all open. Noxxic on the other hand is a black box that shouts numbers and tells you to believe it.

I know which one i have more faith in.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 12:10:48
December 09 2014 12:10 GMT
#6425
And last i checked AMR is just simcraft running less iterations. But yeah, simcraft downloader and client just got an update. From a couple of quick sims it looks like with 4set you should be more or less able to swap between fire and arcane spec since they have similar-ish stat priorities at that point.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 12:20:49
December 09 2014 12:20 GMT
#6426
But Arcane will be behind fire in most fights anyway, will only beat fire on a boss where RoP is viable which afaik the only one is butcher, which i will try on weds with frost lol.

Plus like you said this is 4 piece which is like 6 weeks + away for most people.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 12:30:15
December 09 2014 12:29 GMT
#6427
Yeah im talking mostly about BRF, in Highmaul Frost is (mostly) the way to go still because of how the fights are imo. My guess would be like Arcane > No/few adds and movement, Fire > adds and/or heavy movement.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 09 2014 12:44 GMT
#6428
Yeah i would concur. However i will still probably fire all the time mainly due to fire is awesome :3
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
December 09 2014 12:46 GMT
#6429
Yeah same, unless we happen to really need the extra dps on progress or something
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 12:50:24
December 09 2014 12:47 GMT
#6430
On December 09 2014 21:20 Pandemona wrote:
But Arcane will be behind fire in most fights anyway, will only beat fire on a boss where RoP is viable which afaik the only one is butcher, which i will try on weds with frost lol.

Plus like you said this is 4 piece which is like 6 weeks + away for most people.


So uhh.. when is the next raid being added? Did i miss something?

edit: Looks pretty soon, so nice. I was kinda expecting it to be around late march - early april before a gap to tier 18, but i guess blizzards pacing for content continues to amaze me
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 12:53:38
December 09 2014 12:52 GMT
#6431
http://wowpedia.org/Blackrock_Foundry
Says 8 weeks actually after Highmaul so. Last week Jan/1st week Feb. So 6 weeks Today (considering it is NA 2nd week)
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 09 2014 13:21 GMT
#6432
As long as fights keep being 1-3 targets (except Tectus), I will continue to play Affliction. I love this spec.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
December 09 2014 13:22 GMT
#6433
Why the fuck are people in this thread still linking Noxxic?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
December 09 2014 14:01 GMT
#6434
It was quoted to me by 2 gm's targeting mythic progression and it's hard to judge what's relevant when everybody calls everything bad. Apparently that one is not so liked around here
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21976 Posts
December 09 2014 14:05 GMT
#6435
On December 09 2014 23:01 Cyro wrote:
It was quoted to me by 2 gm's targeting mythic progression and it's hard to judge what's relevant when everybody calls everything bad. Apparently that one is not so liked around here

I would advise you against mentioning it on MMO-C aswell. you get the same result.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 09 2014 14:08 GMT
#6436
Just take Butcher as benchmark.
WriterXiao8~~
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 14:16:11
December 09 2014 14:10 GMT
#6437
On December 09 2014 23:08 Kipsate wrote:
Just take Butcher as benchmark.


Yea seems pretty wise when judging butcher DPS

http://www.worldoflogs.com/ranking/eu-us/highmaul/the-butcher/heroic/dps/

pre-buff frost mage on rank #9, top unholy DK on #79, top frost DK at #631, that reflects my slight confusion of the "frost underpowered" talk considering i only played with frost mages on butcher fight and they were doing that damage while also having the ridiculous burst
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
December 09 2014 14:36 GMT
#6438
On December 09 2014 23:10 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 23:08 Kipsate wrote:
Just take Butcher as benchmark.


Yea seems pretty wise when judging butcher DPS

http://www.worldoflogs.com/ranking/eu-us/highmaul/the-butcher/heroic/dps/

pre-buff frost mage on rank #9, top unholy DK on #79, top frost DK at #631, that reflects my slight confusion of the "frost underpowered" talk considering i only played with frost mages on butcher fight and they were doing that damage while also having the ridiculous burst


Because WoL is bad and you should use WCL like most people do. Also the top logs of all specs are called outliers and you shouldn't really just look at the rank 1 log and draw your conclusion about spec's strenght because of one log. Doesn't matter if people are gm or whatever, if they link you noxxic and say use this then you just know you probably don't want to be in that guild if GMs believe noxxic is correct. Frost mage and unholy dk dps range if you check from wcl is not very big compared to hunters.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
December 09 2014 14:37 GMT
#6439
Lol. Noxxic and WoL. Double whammy.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
December 09 2014 14:41 GMT
#6440
In all seriousness you probably should start looking for a new guild if your guild leader pushes Noxxic and WoL, because he's clearly not very well informed and - from my personal experiences - that always ends up causing drama at some point.
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