• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:35
CET 12:35
KST 20:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly0Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION3Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams12
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four
Tourneys
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Kirktown Chat Brawl #9 $50 8:30PM EST 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review Ladder Map Matchup Stats Map pack for 3v3/4v4/FFA games BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Dating: How's your luck? US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Big Reveal
Peanutsc
Challenge: Maths isn't all…
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1452 users

[wow] Warlords of Draenor - Page 231

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 229 230 231 232 233 591 Next
Add yourself to the player list
Kvz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States463 Posts
November 13 2014 17:26 GMT
#4601
yeah US servers seem to be doing fine. tich alliance was good last night. firebolt145 what was your in game name?
NrG.Kvz
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 17:35:01
November 13 2014 17:33 GMT
#4602
What is the point, can anyone on EU actually 'play'? Twisting Nether has a 2500+ queue, which takes an hour and then you probably dc anyway.


Twisting Nether has been hitting 5k queue, there's a huge grace period where you can leave/dc and rejoin without getting in it though

server is working good right now. Only ~200ms on casts. Gonna keep playing through level 100 probably but that might take a while
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
November 13 2014 17:45 GMT
#4603
On November 14 2014 02:33 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
What is the point, can anyone on EU actually 'play'? Twisting Nether has a 2500+ queue, which takes an hour and then you probably dc anyway.


Twisting Nether has been hitting 5k queue, there's a huge grace period where you can leave/dc and rejoin without getting in it though

server is working good right now. Only ~200ms on casts. Gonna keep playing through level 100 probably but that might take a while


TN has been probably one of the most unstable servers, I'm glad I pulled all nigther to rush to 100. Most guildies couldn't do anything at frostridge whole day and pretty much every other zone is lagging as well. Been offline many times today as well as constant dcs/rollbacks etc.

Couldn't stay up anymore and took 1h nap and it's +4k queues now, MoP launch was so much more smoother and there was no lag at all on Jade Forest at morning.
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
November 13 2014 17:46 GMT
#4604
On November 14 2014 02:33 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
What is the point, can anyone on EU actually 'play'? Twisting Nether has a 2500+ queue, which takes an hour and then you probably dc anyway.


Twisting Nether has been hitting 5k queue, there's a huge grace period where you can leave/dc and rejoin without getting in it though

server is working good right now. Only ~200ms on casts. Gonna keep playing through level 100 probably but that might take a while


All right, will see when either I or my cousin can get in. We both dc'd from the queue as the server went down entirely like 20 minutes ago.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 13 2014 17:47 GMT
#4605
Got DC'ed out of my queue after 1h40, back to 2500th lol
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
November 13 2014 17:52 GMT
#4606
TN has been probably one of the most unstable servers, I'm glad I pulled all nigther to rush to 100


Me and friend had some issues, took like half an hour to get through dark portal and then we stuck for like 6 hours on a few of the problem quests, after that there was no more "staying ahead of the pack"
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 13 2014 18:04 GMT
#4607
Boya, come home after 11 hours of drudgery to hit a nice little 4k queue. I guess the technology isn't there.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 13 2014 18:12 GMT
#4608
On November 14 2014 03:04 Squat wrote:
Boya, come home after 11 hours of drudgery to hit a nice little 4k queue. I guess the technology isn't there.


It's here, just not in Blizzard's hand apparently.

If anyone here played Guild wars 2, they have the most advanced servers system ever. They don't have the same population obviously, but they can do server maintenance without downtime, and the servers haven't been down or unavailable in 2 years. If only they ahd that for WoW.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 13 2014 18:15 GMT
#4609
I'm fine with having maintenance. I'm not fine with this clusterfuck. If the game is this broken they should just take the servers down for however long it takes them to fix this shit, rather than bottlenecking thousands of people in the same square.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 13 2014 18:24 GMT
#4610
On November 14 2014 03:15 Teoita wrote:
I'm fine with having maintenance. I'm not fine with this clusterfuck. If the game is this broken they should just take the servers down for however long it takes them to fix this shit, rather than bottlenecking thousands of people in the same square.


the problem is starting and stopping the realms takes time, and they cant test if it works without letting people back on. so it would take even longer to fix and there would be nobody playing at all in the meantime. this might be frustrating but its the best solution for most people.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
November 13 2014 18:25 GMT
#4611
On November 14 2014 03:15 Teoita wrote:
I'm fine with having maintenance. I'm not fine with this clusterfuck. If the game is this broken they should just take the servers down for however long it takes them to fix this shit, rather than bottlenecking thousands of people in the same square.


I agree, and playing 80% of the time today with ping fluctuating wildly from 200 to 20'000 hasn't been too fun. I'd rather they halt progress for -everyone- because i don't feel like it's much of an option personally to go to other stuff for a day or three while everybody else plays and some are less handicapped
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 13 2014 18:26 GMT
#4612
Guys, major breakthrough here. I was able to pick up three(!!) quest items before I rubberbanded around like a roadrunner before I DC'd into another 3k queue.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
November 13 2014 18:26 GMT
#4613
I actually think that's what they're doing. With how long the garrisons have been down now they might be working on that without taking the entire servers down.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
November 13 2014 18:29 GMT
#4614
Garrisons are one of the only places that actually worked for me, i have 40 ping there and then i go back to quest and have constant 250 ping if i'm lucky, unstable 200-20'000 ping if i'm not
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
November 13 2014 18:33 GMT
#4615
Having a constant 250 ping is very very very lucky. Here on EU Shattered Halls there's phasing issues (half the time mobs and NPCs either load really slowly or not at all), pingspikes upto 20k ms, disconnects (world server down). Garrison doesn't work at all (you get ported out and the Hearthstone straight up doesn't work but goes on cd anyway, not even a loadscreen was had).
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
November 13 2014 18:34 GMT
#4616
Having a constant 250 ping is very very very lucky. Here on EU Shattered Halls there's phasing issues (half the time mobs and NPCs either load really slowly or not at all), pingspikes upto 20k ms, disconnects (world server down). Garrison doesn't work at all (you get ported out and the Hearthstone straight up doesn't work but goes on cd anyway, not even a loadscreen was had).


Yea i've experienced no shortage of any of this. The garrison breaking was semi recently though, mostly when i used it before it worked great

i go back to quest and have constant 250 ping if i'm lucky

"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 13 2014 18:47 GMT
#4617
Launches are usually pretty shit when blizzard is involved, but this is more than the normal clusterfuck. It just seems broken, like stuff is missing. It really feels like WoD is plain unfinished. Everything is going wrong, garrisons don't work, phasing is a complete and utter mess. This looks like a second rate hack job atm.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
November 13 2014 18:49 GMT
#4618
Since all the wow players seem to have some free time on their hands =)~ hopefully someone can answer a few questions.

I quit playing near the end of the burning crusade so I'm curious about the things that have changed

I've been hearing that professions give passive bonuses or something like that, is that only for crafting professions or is going double gathering still doable?
Has blizzard cut down on the experience required to go through leveling and if they have can you give me a general idea of by how much?
How decent is class/spec balance for PvE? I'm interested in warlock/priest/shaman specs.
If I buy the $20 WoW downdownload on bnet does that include all the expos up to warlords? I've been trying to find this answer myself but I guess I'm terrible at Google.

Any other tips or important info would be helpful gl hf with launch day
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Noizhende
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria328 Posts
November 13 2014 18:50 GMT
#4619
so far i haven't been able to enter the garrison, but i can run around in the world an quest (although i don't find many quests )
got to lvl 91 anyway
could also do the first dungeon once but most of the time i can't enter the instance when i find a group.

it's really a bit of a clusterfuck right now
Die neuen Tempel haben schon Risse - künftige Ruinen - einst wächst Gras auch über diese Stadt - über ihre letzte Schicht
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 18:56:44
November 13 2014 18:50 GMT
#4620
Consdering the performance of the EU servers in the last few months i think the game itself is fine but their hardware sucks balls, so all the shiny new stuff like models etc is probably maxing their cpu's and causing this mess. At least, that'd be my guess.

I've been hearing that professions give passive bonuses or something like that, is that only for crafting professions or is going double gathering still doable?

That used to be the case until now, but not anymore. Professions do not have any particular perk, and in fact in your garrison you should be able to use any two professions somewhat efficiently. For example, for alchemy you can make decent (but not the best) flasks through your garrison if you don't have that profession on your char, while if you do have it you can more easily craft higher amounts of the best flasks/pots.

Has blizzard cut down on the experience required to go through leveling and if they have can you give me a general idea of by how much?

Compared to TBC levelling is a breeze because questing is structure much better, including the whole world since the late TBC and Cata revamps, low level characters are considerably more powerful than they used to be and yes, they did adjust exp slightly. For reference, using full heirloom gear (which gives you a 55% experience boost) which you can get from max level activities from your main, i was able to go 1-60 on an alt in less than a week, and i'm not even that good at levelling.

How decent is class/spec balance for PvE? I'm interested in warlock/priest/shaman specs.

For the average raider (ie not racing for world firsts but still being fairly serious about raiding), you can play any class/spec you want in PvE and carry your weight in raids. There are optimal specs but they are far, far closer than they were during the TBC era (moonkins and ret aren't joke specs now, if you can believe that).

If I buy the $20 WoW downdownload on bnet does that include all the expos up to warlords? I've been trying to find this answer myself but I guess I'm terrible at Google.

Every expansion except warlords is included i believe.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Prev 1 229 230 231 232 233 591 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
09:00
Crank Gathers S2: Playoffs D3
CranKy Ducklings206
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 146
Rex 34
MindelVK 31
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 10065
Sea 5000
Jaedong 2110
actioN 681
firebathero 500
Larva 326
Mini 292
PianO 161
Rush 104
Mong 80
[ Show more ]
Liquid`Ret 62
ToSsGirL 55
Killer 51
Barracks 46
Sharp 34
soO 23
Icarus 18
HiyA 13
Sacsri 11
Terrorterran 4
Dota 2
XcaliburYe122
League of Legends
JimRising 411
Reynor70
Counter-Strike
zeus826
x6flipin297
edward46
Other Games
summit1g15693
singsing1244
B2W.Neo855
crisheroes216
Hui .170
Sick161
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick432
Counter-Strike
PGL190
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3257
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
25m
Rex34
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 25m
Replay Cast
11h 25m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
22h 25m
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d
LAN Event
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
2 days
LAN Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
LAN Event
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
LAN Event
5 days
IPSL
5 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
LAN Event
6 days
IPSL
6 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.