• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:32
CEST 08:32
KST 15:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview25Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL46Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates7GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th12Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Magnus Carlsen and Fabi review Clem's chess game. BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th
Tourneys
Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Cheeseadelphia 2025 - Open Bracket LAN! $25,000+ WardiTV 2025 Series
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I made an ASL quiz [BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 1
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Cognitive styles x game perf…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 22822 users

[wow] Warlords of Draenor - Page 231

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 229 230 231 232 233 591 Next
Add yourself to the player list
Kvz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States463 Posts
November 13 2014 17:26 GMT
#4601
yeah US servers seem to be doing fine. tich alliance was good last night. firebolt145 what was your in game name?
NrG.Kvz
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 17:35:01
November 13 2014 17:33 GMT
#4602
What is the point, can anyone on EU actually 'play'? Twisting Nether has a 2500+ queue, which takes an hour and then you probably dc anyway.


Twisting Nether has been hitting 5k queue, there's a huge grace period where you can leave/dc and rejoin without getting in it though

server is working good right now. Only ~200ms on casts. Gonna keep playing through level 100 probably but that might take a while
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
November 13 2014 17:45 GMT
#4603
On November 14 2014 02:33 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
What is the point, can anyone on EU actually 'play'? Twisting Nether has a 2500+ queue, which takes an hour and then you probably dc anyway.


Twisting Nether has been hitting 5k queue, there's a huge grace period where you can leave/dc and rejoin without getting in it though

server is working good right now. Only ~200ms on casts. Gonna keep playing through level 100 probably but that might take a while


TN has been probably one of the most unstable servers, I'm glad I pulled all nigther to rush to 100. Most guildies couldn't do anything at frostridge whole day and pretty much every other zone is lagging as well. Been offline many times today as well as constant dcs/rollbacks etc.

Couldn't stay up anymore and took 1h nap and it's +4k queues now, MoP launch was so much more smoother and there was no lag at all on Jade Forest at morning.
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
November 13 2014 17:46 GMT
#4604
On November 14 2014 02:33 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
What is the point, can anyone on EU actually 'play'? Twisting Nether has a 2500+ queue, which takes an hour and then you probably dc anyway.


Twisting Nether has been hitting 5k queue, there's a huge grace period where you can leave/dc and rejoin without getting in it though

server is working good right now. Only ~200ms on casts. Gonna keep playing through level 100 probably but that might take a while


All right, will see when either I or my cousin can get in. We both dc'd from the queue as the server went down entirely like 20 minutes ago.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 13 2014 17:47 GMT
#4605
Got DC'ed out of my queue after 1h40, back to 2500th lol
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
November 13 2014 17:52 GMT
#4606
TN has been probably one of the most unstable servers, I'm glad I pulled all nigther to rush to 100


Me and friend had some issues, took like half an hour to get through dark portal and then we stuck for like 6 hours on a few of the problem quests, after that there was no more "staying ahead of the pack"
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 13 2014 18:04 GMT
#4607
Boya, come home after 11 hours of drudgery to hit a nice little 4k queue. I guess the technology isn't there.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 13 2014 18:12 GMT
#4608
On November 14 2014 03:04 Squat wrote:
Boya, come home after 11 hours of drudgery to hit a nice little 4k queue. I guess the technology isn't there.


It's here, just not in Blizzard's hand apparently.

If anyone here played Guild wars 2, they have the most advanced servers system ever. They don't have the same population obviously, but they can do server maintenance without downtime, and the servers haven't been down or unavailable in 2 years. If only they ahd that for WoW.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 13 2014 18:15 GMT
#4609
I'm fine with having maintenance. I'm not fine with this clusterfuck. If the game is this broken they should just take the servers down for however long it takes them to fix this shit, rather than bottlenecking thousands of people in the same square.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 13 2014 18:24 GMT
#4610
On November 14 2014 03:15 Teoita wrote:
I'm fine with having maintenance. I'm not fine with this clusterfuck. If the game is this broken they should just take the servers down for however long it takes them to fix this shit, rather than bottlenecking thousands of people in the same square.


the problem is starting and stopping the realms takes time, and they cant test if it works without letting people back on. so it would take even longer to fix and there would be nobody playing at all in the meantime. this might be frustrating but its the best solution for most people.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
November 13 2014 18:25 GMT
#4611
On November 14 2014 03:15 Teoita wrote:
I'm fine with having maintenance. I'm not fine with this clusterfuck. If the game is this broken they should just take the servers down for however long it takes them to fix this shit, rather than bottlenecking thousands of people in the same square.


I agree, and playing 80% of the time today with ping fluctuating wildly from 200 to 20'000 hasn't been too fun. I'd rather they halt progress for -everyone- because i don't feel like it's much of an option personally to go to other stuff for a day or three while everybody else plays and some are less handicapped
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 13 2014 18:26 GMT
#4612
Guys, major breakthrough here. I was able to pick up three(!!) quest items before I rubberbanded around like a roadrunner before I DC'd into another 3k queue.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
November 13 2014 18:26 GMT
#4613
I actually think that's what they're doing. With how long the garrisons have been down now they might be working on that without taking the entire servers down.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
November 13 2014 18:29 GMT
#4614
Garrisons are one of the only places that actually worked for me, i have 40 ping there and then i go back to quest and have constant 250 ping if i'm lucky, unstable 200-20'000 ping if i'm not
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
November 13 2014 18:33 GMT
#4615
Having a constant 250 ping is very very very lucky. Here on EU Shattered Halls there's phasing issues (half the time mobs and NPCs either load really slowly or not at all), pingspikes upto 20k ms, disconnects (world server down). Garrison doesn't work at all (you get ported out and the Hearthstone straight up doesn't work but goes on cd anyway, not even a loadscreen was had).
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
November 13 2014 18:34 GMT
#4616
Having a constant 250 ping is very very very lucky. Here on EU Shattered Halls there's phasing issues (half the time mobs and NPCs either load really slowly or not at all), pingspikes upto 20k ms, disconnects (world server down). Garrison doesn't work at all (you get ported out and the Hearthstone straight up doesn't work but goes on cd anyway, not even a loadscreen was had).


Yea i've experienced no shortage of any of this. The garrison breaking was semi recently though, mostly when i used it before it worked great

i go back to quest and have constant 250 ping if i'm lucky

"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 13 2014 18:47 GMT
#4617
Launches are usually pretty shit when blizzard is involved, but this is more than the normal clusterfuck. It just seems broken, like stuff is missing. It really feels like WoD is plain unfinished. Everything is going wrong, garrisons don't work, phasing is a complete and utter mess. This looks like a second rate hack job atm.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
November 13 2014 18:49 GMT
#4618
Since all the wow players seem to have some free time on their hands =)~ hopefully someone can answer a few questions.

I quit playing near the end of the burning crusade so I'm curious about the things that have changed

I've been hearing that professions give passive bonuses or something like that, is that only for crafting professions or is going double gathering still doable?
Has blizzard cut down on the experience required to go through leveling and if they have can you give me a general idea of by how much?
How decent is class/spec balance for PvE? I'm interested in warlock/priest/shaman specs.
If I buy the $20 WoW downdownload on bnet does that include all the expos up to warlords? I've been trying to find this answer myself but I guess I'm terrible at Google.

Any other tips or important info would be helpful gl hf with launch day
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Noizhende
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria328 Posts
November 13 2014 18:50 GMT
#4619
so far i haven't been able to enter the garrison, but i can run around in the world an quest (although i don't find many quests )
got to lvl 91 anyway
could also do the first dungeon once but most of the time i can't enter the instance when i find a group.

it's really a bit of a clusterfuck right now
Die neuen Tempel haben schon Risse - künftige Ruinen - einst wächst Gras auch über diese Stadt - über ihre letzte Schicht
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 18:56:44
November 13 2014 18:50 GMT
#4620
Consdering the performance of the EU servers in the last few months i think the game itself is fine but their hardware sucks balls, so all the shiny new stuff like models etc is probably maxing their cpu's and causing this mess. At least, that'd be my guess.

I've been hearing that professions give passive bonuses or something like that, is that only for crafting professions or is going double gathering still doable?

That used to be the case until now, but not anymore. Professions do not have any particular perk, and in fact in your garrison you should be able to use any two professions somewhat efficiently. For example, for alchemy you can make decent (but not the best) flasks through your garrison if you don't have that profession on your char, while if you do have it you can more easily craft higher amounts of the best flasks/pots.

Has blizzard cut down on the experience required to go through leveling and if they have can you give me a general idea of by how much?

Compared to TBC levelling is a breeze because questing is structure much better, including the whole world since the late TBC and Cata revamps, low level characters are considerably more powerful than they used to be and yes, they did adjust exp slightly. For reference, using full heirloom gear (which gives you a 55% experience boost) which you can get from max level activities from your main, i was able to go 1-60 on an alt in less than a week, and i'm not even that good at levelling.

How decent is class/spec balance for PvE? I'm interested in warlock/priest/shaman specs.

For the average raider (ie not racing for world firsts but still being fairly serious about raiding), you can play any class/spec you want in PvE and carry your weight in raids. There are optimal specs but they are far, far closer than they were during the TBC era (moonkins and ret aren't joke specs now, if you can believe that).

If I buy the $20 WoW downdownload on bnet does that include all the expos up to warlords? I've been trying to find this answer myself but I guess I'm terrible at Google.

Every expansion except warlords is included i believe.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Prev 1 229 230 231 232 233 591 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
00:40
DH Dallas Replay Casts
Clem vs SHIN
Reynor vs herO
ShowTime vs SHIN
Serral vs Solar
PiGStarcraft519
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft519
Nina 287
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 334
Leta 117
Mind 43
Noble 26
Hm[arnc] 8
Bale 5
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm101
League of Legends
JimRising 806
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1091
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor90
Other Games
summit1g7136
WinterStarcraft510
Mew2King151
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick749
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 45
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH290
• practicex 43
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki17
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1345
• Stunt479
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
3h 28m
Bellum Gens Elite
3h 28m
Reynor vs ShoWTimE
Serral vs Lambo
Clem vs Zoun
SC Evo League
5h 28m
Fire Grow Cup
8h 28m
CSO Contender
10h 28m
BSL: ProLeague
11h 28m
StRyKeR vs MadiNho
Cross vs UltrA
TT1 vs JDConan
Bonyth vs Sziky
Replay Cast
17h 28m
SOOP Global
20h 28m
Creator vs Rogue
Cure vs Classic
SOOP
1d 2h
Classic vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 3h
[ Show More ]
AllThingsProtoss
1d 4h
Fire Grow Cup
1d 8h
BSL: ProLeague
1d 11h
HBO vs Doodle
spx vs Tech
DragOn vs Hawk
Dewalt vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
GSL Code S
4 days
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL Code S
5 days
herO vs TBD
Classic vs TBD
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL Code S
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
2025 GSL S2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.