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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 27 2014 17:17 GMT
#4081
I had major problems soloing Nef as Arms on my warrior simply because I can't kill him fast enough without using Whirlwind

For those who don't know, you literally cannot kill him if you let Onyxia die, so you have to keep her up to stay in P1. Otherwise the lava rises and you die to blast waves from guys on other platforms before you can kill them all.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
October 27 2014 17:25 GMT
#4082
What am I reading here? Nefarian, Onyxia, lava rising... what? You make it sound like they're one encounter, what am I missing?
vJehoelv
Profile Joined June 2011
United States103 Posts
October 27 2014 17:28 GMT
#4083
On October 28 2014 02:25 SixStrings wrote:
What am I reading here? Nefarian, Onyxia, lava rising... what? You make it sound like they're one encounter, what am I missing?


In cata there is a raid called blackwing descent that has both nefarian and ony as the last boss.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-27 17:42:49
October 27 2014 17:41 GMT
#4084
On October 28 2014 02:17 deth2munkies wrote:
I had major problems soloing Nef as Arms on my warrior simply because I can't kill him fast enough without using Whirlwind

For those who don't know, you literally cannot kill him if you let Onyxia die, so you have to keep her up to stay in P1. Otherwise the lava rises and you die to blast waves from guys on other platforms before you can kill them all.

It becomes alot easier with 2 people, if you had 3 you could probably do it alot safer, but i much prefer the 2 people tank ony + skeletons then burn nef down as soon as he lands strat.

On October 28 2014 02:25 SixStrings wrote:
What am I reading here? Nefarian, Onyxia, lava rising... what? You make it sound like they're one encounter, what am I missing?


http://wowpedia.org/Nefarian's_End

was an incredibly fucking difficult fight at 85 due to crackle being stupid as fuck lolol.
plus having to kite the bone constructs around so you didnt get shit on by them in 1-2 hits
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 27 2014 17:49 GMT
#4085
On October 28 2014 02:41 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 02:17 deth2munkies wrote:
I had major problems soloing Nef as Arms on my warrior simply because I can't kill him fast enough without using Whirlwind

For those who don't know, you literally cannot kill him if you let Onyxia die, so you have to keep her up to stay in P1. Otherwise the lava rises and you die to blast waves from guys on other platforms before you can kill them all.

It becomes alot easier with 2 people, if you had 3 you could probably do it alot safer, but i much prefer the 2 people tank ony + skeletons then burn nef down as soon as he lands strat.

Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 02:25 SixStrings wrote:
What am I reading here? Nefarian, Onyxia, lava rising... what? You make it sound like they're one encounter, what am I missing?


http://wowpedia.org/Nefarian's_End

was an incredibly fucking difficult fight at 85 due to crackle being stupid as fuck lolol.
plus having to kite the bone constructs around so you didnt get shit on by them in 1-2 hits


IMO the (at least initially) hardest part of that encounter back at 85 was the fucking water physics being shit for getting out of the lava. If you jumped half a second before it finished filling, you'd actually go underwater instead of jump on the platform, all this while taking tons of damage. It was even worse before they patched it.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 27 2014 17:58 GMT
#4086
On October 28 2014 02:49 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 02:41 arb wrote:
On October 28 2014 02:17 deth2munkies wrote:
I had major problems soloing Nef as Arms on my warrior simply because I can't kill him fast enough without using Whirlwind

For those who don't know, you literally cannot kill him if you let Onyxia die, so you have to keep her up to stay in P1. Otherwise the lava rises and you die to blast waves from guys on other platforms before you can kill them all.

It becomes alot easier with 2 people, if you had 3 you could probably do it alot safer, but i much prefer the 2 people tank ony + skeletons then burn nef down as soon as he lands strat.

On October 28 2014 02:25 SixStrings wrote:
What am I reading here? Nefarian, Onyxia, lava rising... what? You make it sound like they're one encounter, what am I missing?


http://wowpedia.org/Nefarian's_End

was an incredibly fucking difficult fight at 85 due to crackle being stupid as fuck lolol.
plus having to kite the bone constructs around so you didnt get shit on by them in 1-2 hits


IMO the (at least initially) hardest part of that encounter back at 85 was the fucking water physics being shit for getting out of the lava. If you jumped half a second before it finished filling, you'd actually go underwater instead of jump on the platform, all this while taking tons of damage. It was even worse before they patched it.

That too. When i was doing attempts with a friends guild we wiped quite a few times when we got to that part bc swimming up didnt always work like it was supposed to
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
October 27 2014 18:23 GMT
#4087
On October 28 2014 02:41 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 02:17 deth2munkies wrote:
I had major problems soloing Nef as Arms on my warrior simply because I can't kill him fast enough without using Whirlwind

For those who don't know, you literally cannot kill him if you let Onyxia die, so you have to keep her up to stay in P1. Otherwise the lava rises and you die to blast waves from guys on other platforms before you can kill them all.

It becomes alot easier with 2 people, if you had 3 you could probably do it alot safer, but i much prefer the 2 people tank ony + skeletons then burn nef down as soon as he lands strat.

Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 02:25 SixStrings wrote:
What am I reading here? Nefarian, Onyxia, lava rising... what? You make it sound like they're one encounter, what am I missing?


http://wowpedia.org/Nefarian's_End

was an incredibly fucking difficult fight at 85 due to crackle being stupid as fuck lolol.
plus having to kite the bone constructs around so you didnt get shit on by them in 1-2 hits


Thanks for the explanation. Seems like I've missed sooo much of WoW!
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
October 27 2014 18:34 GMT
#4088
Trying 7 days free game time, got my one priest at 90 from the first week of MoP, who also got to 80 with one week of Cata. Basically have no idea what I'm doing any more seems everything has changed, cant even cast renew! Did the WoD quests but no idea how to get the ilvl to do raidfinder and frankly I'd be a waste of space.
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
October 27 2014 18:36 GMT
#4089
Renew is holy only now. Discs only use holy nova nowadays.
On track to MA1950A.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 27 2014 18:36 GMT
#4090
On October 28 2014 03:34 Immersion_ wrote:
Trying 7 days free game time, got my one priest at 90 from the first week of MoP, who also got to 80 with one week of Cata. Basically have no idea what I'm doing any more seems everything has changed, cant even cast renew! Did the WoD quests but no idea how to get the ilvl to do raidfinder and frankly I'd be a waste of space.

just do timeless isle and you'll get there.
headless horseman gives a 540 ring(or 550 cant remember)
no big deal anyway because the game is done in like 2 weeks lol
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
October 27 2014 18:39 GMT
#4091
On October 28 2014 03:36 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 03:34 Immersion_ wrote:
Trying 7 days free game time, got my one priest at 90 from the first week of MoP, who also got to 80 with one week of Cata. Basically have no idea what I'm doing any more seems everything has changed, cant even cast renew! Did the WoD quests but no idea how to get the ilvl to do raidfinder and frankly I'd be a waste of space.

just do timeless isle and you'll get there.
headless horseman gives a 540 ring(or 550 cant remember)
no big deal anyway because the game is done in like 2 weeks lol


Also quests for the new expansion (takes like 15 minutes) gives a couple blue 515s and an epic 520 trinket.
On track to MA1950A.
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
October 27 2014 18:48 GMT
#4092
Thanks, yeah I did the HH quest and the WoD openers, I'll give Timeless Isle a try...off to google what that is .
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
October 27 2014 19:59 GMT
#4093
Let's say I manage to put in 20-30 hours during the first week of the expansion, will I be fine doing 3 hours a week for the rest of it? I really just want to do challenging five men dungeons and maybe explore Garrisons.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
October 27 2014 20:09 GMT
#4094
On October 28 2014 02:17 deth2munkies wrote:
I had major problems soloing Nef as Arms on my warrior simply because I can't kill him fast enough without using Whirlwind

For those who don't know, you literally cannot kill him if you let Onyxia die, so you have to keep her up to stay in P1. Otherwise the lava rises and you die to blast waves from guys on other platforms before you can kill them all.

Spec slam and go to town. Second Wind, despite being shit for everything else is also pretty nuts for soloing old stuff.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 27 2014 20:14 GMT
#4095
On October 28 2014 04:59 SixStrings wrote:
Let's say I manage to put in 20-30 hours during the first week of the expansion, will I be fine doing 3 hours a week for the rest of it? I really just want to do challenging five men dungeons and maybe explore Garrisons.

Going to stop being challenging after people get into the first raid tier/lfr
but you'd be fine if you wanna do that i guess
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
October 27 2014 20:16 GMT
#4096
Well, I guess... I just liked BC and the Heroic Dungeons so much...
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 27 2014 20:22 GMT
#4097
On October 28 2014 05:16 SixStrings wrote:
Well, I guess... I just liked BC and the Heroic Dungeons so much...

dungeons havent been bc level difficult since i started playing again.
which was in like wrath.
There was a bit of cc at the start of cata heroics, but it wasnt really needed and after the first tier it was mostly just aoe fests.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
October 27 2014 20:26 GMT
#4098
Even in wrath 5man stuff was considerably easier than tbc hcs
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
October 27 2014 20:35 GMT
#4099
On October 28 2014 05:16 SixStrings wrote:
Well, I guess... I just liked BC and the Heroic Dungeons so much...

I don't know about WoD, but since wrath every instance has been a faceroll.

Tanks can hold aggro just by picking their nose.
Healers never get oom.
Mob packs don't do enough damage combined to get through the mitigation/avoidance from the tank plus the healer.

Therefore, you can just pull packs, everybody pew pew. and moves into the next pack.

Also roamers that can mess up your pulling basically don't exist anymore.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
October 27 2014 20:35 GMT
#4100
Yes, but they had some nifty little challenges that were still fun even if you had acquired a couple of level 200 epics from Naxx 10.
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