I don't remember Wrath 5 mans, the LK ones (forge of souls, halls and pit of saron) were a bit challenging at first.

Cata heroics the first week felt about the same as Burning Crusade, but the gear level quickly outpaced the danger you could face in them.

MoP heroics were trash on the whole, really only Shado-Pan Monastery was even problematic.

I'm hoping that the WoD Heroics/CMs stay tough but it probably won't happen.

SixStrings

Germany2046 Posts

October 27 2014 20:47 GMT

#4102

CMs?

Duka08

3391 Posts

October 27 2014 20:51 GMT

#4103

Challenge Modes. Time trials of the 5mans where everyone's gear is normalized to the same level.

Squat

Sweden7978 Posts

October 27 2014 21:00 GMT

#4104

I've been leveling an alt recently, mostly because there is fuck all else to do atm, and I have to say I'm noticing a difference in the dungeons now. Previously I could easily solo any level-appropriate dungeon on a tank specced character. Now, people are actually dying on occasion.

It's pretty refreshing.

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

October 27 2014 21:15 GMT

#4105

On October 28 2014 05:37 las91 wrote:
I don't remember Wrath 5 mans, the LK ones (forge of souls, halls and pit of saron) were a bit challenging at first.

Cata heroics the first week felt about the same as Burning Crusade, but the gear level quickly outpaced the danger you could face in them.

MoP heroics were trash on the whole, really only Shado-Pan Monastery was even problematic.

I'm hoping that the WoD Heroics/CMs stay tough but it probably won't happen.

Troll heroics were kind of difficult at first, till you learned which mobs not to pull
aka the big blue trolls in the dresses that would shit on you but you could skip most of them so it wasnt a big deal.

or didnt pull too many

deth2munkies

United States4051 Posts

October 27 2014 21:20 GMT

#4106

The hall of the one shot goblins still lives on at the original gear level.

You know what I'm talking about.

farvacola

United States18846 Posts

October 27 2014 23:02 GMT

#4107

What they did to Mythic raid Ids, particularly in concert with adding Raid Finder Mythic functionality, is dumb as hell. For those that didn't know, you now lock to a mythic raid id the moment you hit accept upon entering the instance; killing a boss is no longer the lock trigger. Without a stable guild or preexisting group, joining Raid Finder Mythic raids is going to be a fucking awful roll of the dice, every goddamn time.

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

October 27 2014 23:06 GMT

#4108

anyone know where to find 6.03 notes for tomo

Stancel

Singapore15360 Posts

October 27 2014 23:12 GMT

#4109

On October 28 2014 08:02 farvacola wrote:
What they did to Mythic raid Ids, particularly in concert with adding Raid Finder Mythic functionality, is dumb as hell. For those that didn't know, you now lock to a mythic raid id the moment you hit accept upon entering the instance; killing a boss is no longer the lock trigger. Without a stable guild or preexisting group, joining Raid Finder Mythic raids is going to be a fucking awful roll of the dice, every goddamn time.

what?

it's always been that way for every heroic raid, long before 6.0

m4ini

4215 Posts

October 27 2014 23:14 GMT

#4110

Yup, true. Actually, small addendum, you didn't lock immediately, you got asked if you want to lock yourself - not automatically.

farvacola

United States18846 Posts

October 27 2014 23:20 GMT

#4111

I could have sworn that I had previously entered heroics that wiped on Immerseus, I left, they downed him, and I was still able to join a different heroic raid. Then again, I could just be losing my mind.

m4ini

4215 Posts

October 27 2014 23:30 GMT

#4112

Nope. That's because nothing was killed in SoO yet, so you don't get an ID obviously.

edit: he said with confidence, actually i'm wondering if that still is correct oO

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

October 27 2014 23:33 GMT

#4113

Actually if i remember correctly it asked if you wanted to be saved, you said yes.
when the boss died is when it saved you.

worked that way last time i played atleast.

Stancel

Singapore15360 Posts

October 28 2014 00:48 GMT

#4114

Legacy Heroic/current Mythic works roughly like this:

They have a separate raid ID, and if you save yourself to this ID through killing a boss in a fresh group or zoning into an in-progress raid, after which you have one minute to decide if you want to save yourself to the lockout and ID or gtfo.

Not sure about this part, but if you're in a group but not in the raid itself and they kill a boss, you won't get saved.

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

October 28 2014 01:44 GMT

#4115

On October 28 2014 09:48 Stancel wrote:
Legacy Heroic/current Mythic works roughly like this:

They have a separate raid ID, and if you save yourself to this ID through killing a boss in a fresh group or zoning into an in-progress raid, after which you have one minute to decide if you want to save yourself to the lockout and ID or gtfo.

Not sure about this part, but if you're in a group but not in the raid itself and they kill a boss, you won't get saved.

It's always worked this way.
The lock is only invoked when you zone in

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

October 28 2014 08:48 GMT

#4116

Yeah i joined a heroic raid the other week on my mage and they couldn't kill Klaxxi on heroic so i left and i was not saved for that week. You only got saved after a boss is killed whether it is 0/14 or 12/14.

I like the separate lock outs now though of Normal/HC separate to Mythic etc. Helpful for guilds and pugs, also the reason why lots of guilds have made so much gold boosting heirlooms.

Also not long!

FFW_Rude

France10201 Posts

October 28 2014 09:18 GMT

#4117

On October 28 2014 02:16 arb wrote:

Show nested quote +

T11 - Throne of the four winds, Bastion of twilight, Blackwing decent
T12 - Firelands
T13 - Dragon soul

Thank you for explaining.

Vallelol

Germany1046 Posts

October 28 2014 09:50 GMT

#4118

90-100 Leveling Guide
Found this on reddit some days ago, leveling solo seems insanely fast, although he buys a XP potion at the garrison for 100 ressources a few times, which actually could set back your garrison progression