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I don't remember Wrath 5 mans, the LK ones (forge of souls, halls and pit of saron) were a bit challenging at first.
Cata heroics the first week felt about the same as Burning Crusade, but the gear level quickly outpaced the danger you could face in them.
MoP heroics were trash on the whole, really only Shado-Pan Monastery was even problematic.
I'm hoping that the WoD Heroics/CMs stay tough but it probably won't happen.
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Challenge Modes. Time trials of the 5mans where everyone's gear is normalized to the same level.
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I've been leveling an alt recently, mostly because there is fuck all else to do atm, and I have to say I'm noticing a difference in the dungeons now. Previously I could easily solo any level-appropriate dungeon on a tank specced character. Now, people are actually dying on occasion.
It's pretty refreshing.
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On October 28 2014 05:37 las91 wrote: I don't remember Wrath 5 mans, the LK ones (forge of souls, halls and pit of saron) were a bit challenging at first.
Cata heroics the first week felt about the same as Burning Crusade, but the gear level quickly outpaced the danger you could face in them.
MoP heroics were trash on the whole, really only Shado-Pan Monastery was even problematic.
I'm hoping that the WoD Heroics/CMs stay tough but it probably won't happen. Troll heroics were kind of difficult at first, till you learned which mobs not to pull aka the big blue trolls in the dresses that would shit on you but you could skip most of them so it wasnt a big deal.
or didnt pull too many
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The hall of the one shot goblins still lives on at the original gear level.
You know what I'm talking about.
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What they did to Mythic raid Ids, particularly in concert with adding Raid Finder Mythic functionality, is dumb as hell. For those that didn't know, you now lock to a mythic raid id the moment you hit accept upon entering the instance; killing a boss is no longer the lock trigger. Without a stable guild or preexisting group, joining Raid Finder Mythic raids is going to be a fucking awful roll of the dice, every goddamn time.
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anyone know where to find 6.03 notes for tomo
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On October 28 2014 08:02 farvacola wrote: What they did to Mythic raid Ids, particularly in concert with adding Raid Finder Mythic functionality, is dumb as hell. For those that didn't know, you now lock to a mythic raid id the moment you hit accept upon entering the instance; killing a boss is no longer the lock trigger. Without a stable guild or preexisting group, joining Raid Finder Mythic raids is going to be a fucking awful roll of the dice, every goddamn time.
what?
it's always been that way for every heroic raid, long before 6.0
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Yup, true. Actually, small addendum, you didn't lock immediately, you got asked if you want to lock yourself - not automatically.
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I could have sworn that I had previously entered heroics that wiped on Immerseus, I left, they downed him, and I was still able to join a different heroic raid. Then again, I could just be losing my mind.
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Nope. That's because nothing was killed in SoO yet, so you don't get an ID obviously. 
edit: he said with confidence, actually i'm wondering if that still is correct oO
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Actually if i remember correctly it asked if you wanted to be saved, you said yes. when the boss died is when it saved you.
worked that way last time i played atleast.
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Legacy Heroic/current Mythic works roughly like this:
They have a separate raid ID, and if you save yourself to this ID through killing a boss in a fresh group or zoning into an in-progress raid, after which you have one minute to decide if you want to save yourself to the lockout and ID or gtfo.
Not sure about this part, but if you're in a group but not in the raid itself and they kill a boss, you won't get saved.
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On October 28 2014 09:48 Stancel wrote: Legacy Heroic/current Mythic works roughly like this:
They have a separate raid ID, and if you save yourself to this ID through killing a boss in a fresh group or zoning into an in-progress raid, after which you have one minute to decide if you want to save yourself to the lockout and ID or gtfo.
Not sure about this part, but if you're in a group but not in the raid itself and they kill a boss, you won't get saved. It's always worked this way. The lock is only invoked when you zone in
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Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
Yeah i joined a heroic raid the other week on my mage and they couldn't kill Klaxxi on heroic so i left and i was not saved for that week. You only got saved after a boss is killed whether it is 0/14 or 12/14.
I like the separate lock outs now though of Normal/HC separate to Mythic etc. Helpful for guilds and pugs, also the reason why lots of guilds have made so much gold boosting heirlooms.
Also not long! 
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On October 28 2014 02:16 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2014 01:58 FFW_Rude wrote:On October 28 2014 01:52 arb wrote:On October 28 2014 01:50 FFW_Rude wrote:On October 28 2014 01:49 arb wrote:On October 28 2014 01:42 FFW_Rude wrote:On October 28 2014 01:37 arb wrote:On October 28 2014 00:35 FFW_Rude wrote:I like the "it will never drop for you". it looks like my solo attempts that i run for 5months now to : - Onyxian Drake - The phenix from Kael t'has - The horse from Karazan - The horse from Strat - The drake from uldum - The drake from the "underworld" ? "Heart of stone" ? - The 2 mounts of Zul gurub. - Blue proto drake 19 weeks of try and no luck  Actually got Onyxia on my 2nd try :x. Also got the mount from Rag on my first heroic kill(last time i touched him was when he was relevant content) ive ran kara like a million times and never seen the mount tho, shits lame Rag ? Who is that ? Ragnaros, Firelands Oh ok  I only killed the Spider solo for now (it was REALLY CLOSE). I think i need more ilvel to do the rest. Just need another person, can probably 2man most of it. I could solo all of T11 for the most part(obviously not Nefarian as i stated earlier) But the bosses in T12 were a huge step above I'm a noob :p i don't know what's T11 / T12. For me Neferian is BWD/BWL. T11 - Throne of the four winds, Bastion of twilight, Blackwing decent T12 - Firelands T13 - Dragon soul
Thank you for explaining.
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90-100 Leveling Guide Found this on reddit some days ago, leveling solo seems insanely fast, although he buys a XP potion at the garrison for 100 ressources a few times, which actually could set back your garrison progression
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Italy12246 Posts
With raids opening two and a half weeks into WoD there's no reason to really rush levelling imo.
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On October 28 2014 21:26 Teoita wrote: With raids opening two and a half weeks into WoD there's no reason to really rush levelling imo. For most hardcore raiders it just means they have a little longer to farm heroic dungeons. They will still rush.
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