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Really, you only need to get one from normal. You probably won't even notice the weapon's itemlvl difference while playing and you can easily carry a group of lobotomised monkeys through normal with 3-4 good players. + Show Spoiler [account weapons itemlvl 90-100] +
Mythic runs are probably so expensive because the fos will be removed and mount drop chance reduced from 100% to "it will never drop for you". SoO mythic is a joke now though, don't pay 100k or something crazy for that stuff unless you absolutely can't live without the fos. I'm Alliance, so I can't sell you a spot in our group ;( + Show Spoiler +we would probably charge 10-20k for a Mythic Garrosh kill (not confirmed)
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I like the "it will never drop for you". it looks like my solo attempts that i run for 5months now to :
- Onyxian Drake - The phenix from Kael t'has - The horse from Karazan - The horse from Strat - The drake from uldum - The drake from the "underworld" ? "Heart of stone" ? - The 2 mounts of Zul gurub. - Blue proto drake
19 weeks of try and no luck
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I don't even have 100k to spend. :D
Don't need mythic, no - but hc would be still nice. Especially now, after being scammed out of 14k - sigh. Rookiemistake i guess, and pissing annoying. :[
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On October 28 2014 00:37 m4ini wrote: I don't even have 100k to spend. :D
Don't need mythic, no - but hc would be still nice. Especially now, after being scammed out of 14k - sigh. Rookiemistake i guess, and pissing annoying. :[
I think if you've been genuinely scammed you can get help from the customer service.
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On October 28 2014 00:43 nimbim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2014 00:37 m4ini wrote: I don't even have 100k to spend. :D
Don't need mythic, no - but hc would be still nice. Especially now, after being scammed out of 14k - sigh. Rookiemistake i guess, and pissing annoying. :[ I think if you've been genuinely scammed you can get help from the customer service.
Well, you tell me: tradechannel, somebody sells Garrosh HC kill only. We msg him, tells us to join the raid, which we did - gave him the gold, and got kicked. After some messaging back and forth, telling us that the raidlead didn't know about us, basically lying etc - he logged off. Got then hold of another person in that raid, telling me, that he was a random player that was invited just a boss early, and obviously doesn't have anything to do with the raid itself.
Pretty scammy in my mind.
edit: don't think that the support does anything about it, will still write a ticket and warn others in the forums about him, makes me feel at least a tiny bit better.
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I've only read about trade scams a few years ago. "Give merchandise, I will relog and give you money" etc and Blizzard punished fuckers like that pretty hard iirc. I would definitely try. Sorry that happened to you.
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Yup, wrote a ticket, lets hope something comes of it.
I wouldn't do "will relog and give you money" etc, obviously - i wouldn't have given a person in Orgrimmar gold either. We already did some trash, that's when i thought "well okay, seems fine".
I'm too old to be furious about it.
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Way back in classic, we used to send wrapped packages via c. o. d. for 15 gold. You would go: /who 60 Ironforge, have a list of characters, send each of them said package with the subject 'Here's your Krol Blade' and sometimes it would work. The beauty of that was that you only scammed dishonest people who tried to take advantage of a mail-error. Paid for half of my first epic mount through that.
Nowadays, however, GMs crack down on that, so you will get your gold back and he should be temp-banned for 48 hours.
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I farmed my first epic mount with my rogue legit! Still proud of it. 
Good to hear that they crack down on scamming though (i remember those packets, was kinda obvious that nothing comes from it^^). I'm too naive and honest for a game that supports scamming, that's why i don't play Eve anymore. -.-
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I pugged quite a bit of heroic soo for bonus rolls. A ton of Thok and Malkorok. You have to expect some people to not know what they're doing and not be able to learn from their mistakes. It comes down to having a raid leader who can identify those people and kick them. I call people out and ask the raid leader to kick them, and if they don't then I find another group. But I've had the luxury of usually being top DPS and having high ilvl while I went after the last few pieces I needed, so my opinion actually pulled some weight. If you're not particularly valuable to your current group, or it'd be hard for you to find a new group, then it must be pretty rough.
I was in a Malkorok group yesterday where we wiped on blood rage phase because a guy with the debuff stacked on raid. I finished with 15.9k dps, no one else above 10k. I called the guy out who was a 6k dps and he didn't even know he was the one who wiped us, then he told me to QQ more. I told the leader to kick him, said no for the ready check, the leader just ignored me and started the pull countdown, so I left. Just don't put up with that shit because 90% of the time, one wipe like that and that kind of attitude means a million more wipes are coming.
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The trouble is simply that "gearscore" is overrated, especially nowadays after 6.0.2. My shittygeared feral (ilvl what, 530 incl cloak) stomps people with a higher gearlevel (obviously depending on encounter, but generally) on a regular basis (not all of them, some people with high ilvl actually can play properly). Yet, to find a pug for garrosh hc, you need at least 560 or the group won't even think about taking you.
It's annoying. :[
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That kind of crap has been around since gearscore became popular during wotlk. It's sort of reasonable too; assuming people pugging are generally awful (otherwise they'd raid with a guild, right?), at least decent gear will make them less of a dead weight in the raid. Boosting clueless scrubs is annoying enough, if they don't have any gear and get oneshotted by stuff while doing less dps than your disc priest it's even worse.
Honestly the only way to avoid those kinds of groups is just to ignore them and find a guild that suits your playing style. The game is so much more enjoyable then imo.
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On October 28 2014 00:35 FFW_Rude wrote:I like the "it will never drop for you". it looks like my solo attempts that i run for 5months now to : - Onyxian Drake - The phenix from Kael t'has - The horse from Karazan - The horse from Strat - The drake from uldum - The drake from the "underworld" ? "Heart of stone" ? - The 2 mounts of Zul gurub. - Blue proto drake 19 weeks of try and no luck  Actually got Onyxia on my 2nd try :x. Also got the mount from Rag on my first heroic kill(last time i touched him was when he was relevant content) ive ran kara like a million times and never seen the mount tho, shits lame
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Oh i don't disagree with that, when i made groups back in the day, i checked ilvls as well. But not just that. We took people that had less gear than required, we made some mistakes with these - but on occasion, a lower geared person actually pulled his weight alot better than some people with much better gear - because he put some effort in.
Not going to happen nowadays anymore, and i'm sick of being rejected because some random number in my sheet is too low. I do understand that they don't want to take a risk since they don't know me - doesn't change it though. You can't even build a group on your own, because as soon as people see you, they start to suspect that you want them to carry you.
Finding guilds is as impossible, since they (at least on Frostwolf EU) have the same ideas. At least X experience (which is fine) and GS >560. It's the end of the expansion, so nobody will take lowbies. The right time to look for a guild/raid is in the first couple of months in WoD, when the gear-scissor isn't that wide open yet.
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On October 28 2014 01:37 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2014 00:35 FFW_Rude wrote:I like the "it will never drop for you". it looks like my solo attempts that i run for 5months now to : - Onyxian Drake - The phenix from Kael t'has - The horse from Karazan - The horse from Strat - The drake from uldum - The drake from the "underworld" ? "Heart of stone" ? - The 2 mounts of Zul gurub. - Blue proto drake 19 weeks of try and no luck  Actually got Onyxia on my 2nd try :x. Also got the mount from Rag on my first heroic kill(last time i touched him was when he was relevant content) ive ran kara like a million times and never seen the mount tho, shits lame
Rag ? Who is that ?
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On October 28 2014 01:42 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2014 01:37 arb wrote:On October 28 2014 00:35 FFW_Rude wrote:I like the "it will never drop for you". it looks like my solo attempts that i run for 5months now to : - Onyxian Drake - The phenix from Kael t'has - The horse from Karazan - The horse from Strat - The drake from uldum - The drake from the "underworld" ? "Heart of stone" ? - The 2 mounts of Zul gurub. - Blue proto drake 19 weeks of try and no luck  Actually got Onyxia on my 2nd try :x. Also got the mount from Rag on my first heroic kill(last time i touched him was when he was relevant content) ive ran kara like a million times and never seen the mount tho, shits lame Rag ? Who is that ? Ragnaros, Firelands also drops the legendary piece to get Sulfuras, which i got on my like 2nd run.
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On October 28 2014 01:49 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2014 01:42 FFW_Rude wrote:On October 28 2014 01:37 arb wrote:On October 28 2014 00:35 FFW_Rude wrote:I like the "it will never drop for you". it looks like my solo attempts that i run for 5months now to : - Onyxian Drake - The phenix from Kael t'has - The horse from Karazan - The horse from Strat - The drake from uldum - The drake from the "underworld" ? "Heart of stone" ? - The 2 mounts of Zul gurub. - Blue proto drake 19 weeks of try and no luck  Actually got Onyxia on my 2nd try :x. Also got the mount from Rag on my first heroic kill(last time i touched him was when he was relevant content) ive ran kara like a million times and never seen the mount tho, shits lame Rag ? Who is that ? Ragnaros, Firelands
Oh ok I only killed the Spider solo for now (it was REALLY CLOSE). I think i need more ilvel to do the rest.
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On October 28 2014 01:50 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2014 01:49 arb wrote:On October 28 2014 01:42 FFW_Rude wrote:On October 28 2014 01:37 arb wrote:On October 28 2014 00:35 FFW_Rude wrote:I like the "it will never drop for you". it looks like my solo attempts that i run for 5months now to : - Onyxian Drake - The phenix from Kael t'has - The horse from Karazan - The horse from Strat - The drake from uldum - The drake from the "underworld" ? "Heart of stone" ? - The 2 mounts of Zul gurub. - Blue proto drake 19 weeks of try and no luck  Actually got Onyxia on my 2nd try :x. Also got the mount from Rag on my first heroic kill(last time i touched him was when he was relevant content) ive ran kara like a million times and never seen the mount tho, shits lame Rag ? Who is that ? Ragnaros, Firelands Oh ok  I only killed the Spider solo for now (it was REALLY CLOSE). I think i need more ilvel to do the rest. Just need another person, can probably 2man most of it.
I could solo all of T11 for the most part(obviously not Nefarian as i stated earlier) But the bosses in T12 were a huge step above
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On October 28 2014 01:52 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2014 01:50 FFW_Rude wrote:On October 28 2014 01:49 arb wrote:On October 28 2014 01:42 FFW_Rude wrote:On October 28 2014 01:37 arb wrote:On October 28 2014 00:35 FFW_Rude wrote:I like the "it will never drop for you". it looks like my solo attempts that i run for 5months now to : - Onyxian Drake - The phenix from Kael t'has - The horse from Karazan - The horse from Strat - The drake from uldum - The drake from the "underworld" ? "Heart of stone" ? - The 2 mounts of Zul gurub. - Blue proto drake 19 weeks of try and no luck  Actually got Onyxia on my 2nd try :x. Also got the mount from Rag on my first heroic kill(last time i touched him was when he was relevant content) ive ran kara like a million times and never seen the mount tho, shits lame Rag ? Who is that ? Ragnaros, Firelands Oh ok  I only killed the Spider solo for now (it was REALLY CLOSE). I think i need more ilvel to do the rest. Just need another person, can probably 2man most of it. I could solo all of T11 for the most part(obviously not Nefarian as i stated earlier) But the bosses in T12 were a huge step above
I'm a noob :p i don't know what's T11 / T12. For me Neferian is BWD/BWL.
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On October 28 2014 01:58 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2014 01:52 arb wrote:On October 28 2014 01:50 FFW_Rude wrote:On October 28 2014 01:49 arb wrote:On October 28 2014 01:42 FFW_Rude wrote:On October 28 2014 01:37 arb wrote:On October 28 2014 00:35 FFW_Rude wrote:I like the "it will never drop for you". it looks like my solo attempts that i run for 5months now to : - Onyxian Drake - The phenix from Kael t'has - The horse from Karazan - The horse from Strat - The drake from uldum - The drake from the "underworld" ? "Heart of stone" ? - The 2 mounts of Zul gurub. - Blue proto drake 19 weeks of try and no luck  Actually got Onyxia on my 2nd try :x. Also got the mount from Rag on my first heroic kill(last time i touched him was when he was relevant content) ive ran kara like a million times and never seen the mount tho, shits lame Rag ? Who is that ? Ragnaros, Firelands Oh ok  I only killed the Spider solo for now (it was REALLY CLOSE). I think i need more ilvel to do the rest. Just need another person, can probably 2man most of it. I could solo all of T11 for the most part(obviously not Nefarian as i stated earlier) But the bosses in T12 were a huge step above I'm a noob :p i don't know what's T11 / T12. For me Neferian is BWD/BWL. T11 - Throne of the four winds, Bastion of twilight, Blackwing decent T12 - Firelands T13 - Dragon soul
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