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On October 23 2014 07:19 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 07:15 deth2munkies wrote:On October 23 2014 01:59 m4ini wrote:On October 23 2014 01:56 farvacola wrote:On October 23 2014 01:46 Serejai wrote:Sad there isn't a game in 10 years that beats WoW. That's what i meant.  ...there have been numerous MMOs that are better games as a whole than WoW is; they just don't have the marketing to match the numbers. This is, of course, entirely a matter of opinion. It can be argued that there has not been a "better game" than WoW based on the merits of the game itself; your unwillingness to subscribe to such an argument is not an indication that it isn't justifiable. There was. Back in the day i bought Star Wars the Old Republic, because i loved Star Wars Galaxies so much. It actually was the better game (subjectively), to me. Of course, Star Wars TRO was shite. edit: because there have been numerous MMOs that are better games as a whole than WoW is; they just don't have the marketing to match the numbers. I'd like you to list them. The thing about SWG was that they let the players have so much control over what was going on it was incredible. The problem was that if the players didn't take charge, the game was really, really boring. That and the balance: TK/Doctor with the glitched Vibrokuckler that had a 100 yard range being the most egregious. Still, I really enjoyed just running hunting parties on Endor with my Grual pet and Double-sliced Krayt LLC. Wish Truegalaxies and SWGemu would finish up already  I've read about those, truegalaxies and SWGemu, i thought they stopped the project? Apart from that, the housing. And "space-shipping". I dunno, it just felt brilliant. It looked shit compared to nowadays, but for some reason, it got me hooked. And yeah, the game itself, objectively, didn't really have alot of content itself - most of it was generated by players. Still. Back in the day when i played, i would've picked it over WoW every day. I think the biggest part with that is the way it was played. There weren't any casuals, or rather, barely any. And it they weren't catered to (buffbots).
http://www.swgemu.com/forums/index.php
It's still running, they just announced a round of testing 3 days ago. The problem is its bare bones, half the classes don't work, missions are barely functional, and what's there is unstable as hell. They're re-making it from the ground up for free as amateurs, so it's not the quality people expect yet.
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On October 23 2014 08:17 deth2munkies wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 07:19 m4ini wrote:On October 23 2014 07:15 deth2munkies wrote:On October 23 2014 01:59 m4ini wrote:On October 23 2014 01:56 farvacola wrote:On October 23 2014 01:46 Serejai wrote:Sad there isn't a game in 10 years that beats WoW. That's what i meant. ...there have been numerous MMOs that are better games as a whole than WoW is; they just don't have the marketing to match the numbers. This is, of course, entirely a matter of opinion. It can be argued that there has not been a "better game" than WoW based on the merits of the game itself; your unwillingness to subscribe to such an argument is not an indication that it isn't justifiable. There was. Back in the day i bought Star Wars the Old Republic, because i loved Star Wars Galaxies so much. It actually was the better game (subjectively), to me. Of course, Star Wars TRO was shite. edit: because there have been numerous MMOs that are better games as a whole than WoW is; they just don't have the marketing to match the numbers. I'd like you to list them. The thing about SWG was that they let the players have so much control over what was going on it was incredible. The problem was that if the players didn't take charge, the game was really, really boring. That and the balance: TK/Doctor with the glitched Vibrokuckler that had a 100 yard range being the most egregious. Still, I really enjoyed just running hunting parties on Endor with my Grual pet and Double-sliced Krayt LLC. Wish Truegalaxies and SWGemu would finish up already I've read about those, truegalaxies and SWGemu, i thought they stopped the project? Apart from that, the housing. And "space-shipping". I dunno, it just felt brilliant. It looked shit compared to nowadays, but for some reason, it got me hooked. And yeah, the game itself, objectively, didn't really have alot of content itself - most of it was generated by players. Still. Back in the day when i played, i would've picked it over WoW every day. I think the biggest part with that is the way it was played. There weren't any casuals, or rather, barely any. And it they weren't catered to (buffbots). http://www.swgemu.com/forums/index.phpIt's still running, they just announced a round of testing 3 days ago. The problem is its bare bones, half the classes don't work, missions are barely functional, and what's there is unstable as hell. They're re-making it from the ground up for free as amateurs, so it's not the quality people expect yet.
Sad that sony doesn't give a shit. :[
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On October 23 2014 07:52 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 07:49 arb wrote:On October 23 2014 07:23 Gorsameth wrote:On October 23 2014 07:20 arb wrote:On October 23 2014 07:15 m4ini wrote:On October 23 2014 07:11 arb wrote:On October 22 2014 22:02 deth2munkies wrote:
Taste for Blood does not deal any additional damage, try reading the tooltip. I just confirmed it in game. Execute still costs rage under 20% and costs enough that you can run out spamming it on every GCD (even with TfB) without the proc periodically making it free. If you're going to try to tell me what's better for my class, I'd suggest at least reading the abilities you're looking at.
I learn by doing and practicing, not relying on sims. Again, I was a less-geared Warrior than pretty much every DPS except one in the SoO group and I dominated the meters on most fights, even while screwing up my rotation, with Execute being one of my main sources of damage.
Is thirst for blood the slam proc? read on EJ/Icy Veins that its pretty much a straight dps loss compared to sudden death and sudden death is pretty much the only viable talent for the arms tree No. It's the rend-procc. Slam is a straight DPS loss to anything. Even taking no talent at all is better than slam. I'd like you to show me where they say that SD is the only viable option for arms though, because that goes basically against everything i've read there. In fact, icy veins even tell you in their arms guide that TfB hands down is the strongest talent, so i heavily doubt your statement. edit: doesn't matter. The last two pages are dedicated to why your statement (was made by a different person) is wrong, including (albeit simple) math. No need to go over it again. Then they've changed it in the past few days, when the patch came out and i was looking over SD was hands down the best talent on there and ej. I can believe it is a dps increase, i was rage starved pretty much the entire time playing arms tbh. It depends on when you looked. SD was stealth nerfed when 6.0 was deployed on live. On the beta and ptr it had a 20% proc chance and when the patch was deployed it was stealth nerfed down to 10%. If you checked your info before this was discovered then you are right that SD was prob the best talent. It was before the stealth nerf i take. Because i am 110% certain of what i read. Well - now it's TfB, according to icy veins and ejs, so.. 
Which I could see, i felt ridiculously rage starved trying to cast all the shit i had to cast as arms.
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On October 23 2014 08:32 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 07:52 m4ini wrote:On October 23 2014 07:49 arb wrote:On October 23 2014 07:23 Gorsameth wrote:On October 23 2014 07:20 arb wrote:On October 23 2014 07:15 m4ini wrote:On October 23 2014 07:11 arb wrote:On October 22 2014 22:02 deth2munkies wrote:
Taste for Blood does not deal any additional damage, try reading the tooltip. I just confirmed it in game. Execute still costs rage under 20% and costs enough that you can run out spamming it on every GCD (even with TfB) without the proc periodically making it free. If you're going to try to tell me what's better for my class, I'd suggest at least reading the abilities you're looking at.
I learn by doing and practicing, not relying on sims. Again, I was a less-geared Warrior than pretty much every DPS except one in the SoO group and I dominated the meters on most fights, even while screwing up my rotation, with Execute being one of my main sources of damage.
Is thirst for blood the slam proc? read on EJ/Icy Veins that its pretty much a straight dps loss compared to sudden death and sudden death is pretty much the only viable talent for the arms tree No. It's the rend-procc. Slam is a straight DPS loss to anything. Even taking no talent at all is better than slam. I'd like you to show me where they say that SD is the only viable option for arms though, because that goes basically against everything i've read there. In fact, icy veins even tell you in their arms guide that TfB hands down is the strongest talent, so i heavily doubt your statement. edit: doesn't matter. The last two pages are dedicated to why your statement (was made by a different person) is wrong, including (albeit simple) math. No need to go over it again. Then they've changed it in the past few days, when the patch came out and i was looking over SD was hands down the best talent on there and ej. I can believe it is a dps increase, i was rage starved pretty much the entire time playing arms tbh. It depends on when you looked. SD was stealth nerfed when 6.0 was deployed on live. On the beta and ptr it had a 20% proc chance and when the patch was deployed it was stealth nerfed down to 10%. If you checked your info before this was discovered then you are right that SD was prob the best talent. It was before the stealth nerf i take. Because i am 110% certain of what i read. Well - now it's TfB, according to icy veins and ejs, so.. Which I could see, i felt ridiculously rage starved trying to cast all the shit i had to cast as arms.
Got 4pc T16? Just don't forget to rend everything around you (estimates say 3-4 targets is the sweet spot, if possible), it's additive - you get rage from every tick on every mob. Even on trashmobs/adds in bossfights, as long as they live longer than 9 seconds i believe, it's worth it.
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On October 23 2014 08:23 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 08:17 deth2munkies wrote:On October 23 2014 07:19 m4ini wrote:On October 23 2014 07:15 deth2munkies wrote:On October 23 2014 01:59 m4ini wrote:On October 23 2014 01:56 farvacola wrote:On October 23 2014 01:46 Serejai wrote:Sad there isn't a game in 10 years that beats WoW. That's what i meant. ...there have been numerous MMOs that are better games as a whole than WoW is; they just don't have the marketing to match the numbers. This is, of course, entirely a matter of opinion. It can be argued that there has not been a "better game" than WoW based on the merits of the game itself; your unwillingness to subscribe to such an argument is not an indication that it isn't justifiable. There was. Back in the day i bought Star Wars the Old Republic, because i loved Star Wars Galaxies so much. It actually was the better game (subjectively), to me. Of course, Star Wars TRO was shite. edit: because there have been numerous MMOs that are better games as a whole than WoW is; they just don't have the marketing to match the numbers. I'd like you to list them. The thing about SWG was that they let the players have so much control over what was going on it was incredible. The problem was that if the players didn't take charge, the game was really, really boring. That and the balance: TK/Doctor with the glitched Vibrokuckler that had a 100 yard range being the most egregious. Still, I really enjoyed just running hunting parties on Endor with my Grual pet and Double-sliced Krayt LLC. Wish Truegalaxies and SWGemu would finish up already I've read about those, truegalaxies and SWGemu, i thought they stopped the project? Apart from that, the housing. And "space-shipping". I dunno, it just felt brilliant. It looked shit compared to nowadays, but for some reason, it got me hooked. And yeah, the game itself, objectively, didn't really have alot of content itself - most of it was generated by players. Still. Back in the day when i played, i would've picked it over WoW every day. I think the biggest part with that is the way it was played. There weren't any casuals, or rather, barely any. And it they weren't catered to (buffbots). http://www.swgemu.com/forums/index.phpIt's still running, they just announced a round of testing 3 days ago. The problem is its bare bones, half the classes don't work, missions are barely functional, and what's there is unstable as hell. They're re-making it from the ground up for free as amateurs, so it's not the quality people expect yet. Sad that sony doesn't give a shit. :[
They said they "lost" the source code.
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On October 23 2014 07:20 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 07:15 m4ini wrote:On October 23 2014 07:11 arb wrote:On October 22 2014 22:02 deth2munkies wrote:
Taste for Blood does not deal any additional damage, try reading the tooltip. I just confirmed it in game. Execute still costs rage under 20% and costs enough that you can run out spamming it on every GCD (even with TfB) without the proc periodically making it free. If you're going to try to tell me what's better for my class, I'd suggest at least reading the abilities you're looking at.
I learn by doing and practicing, not relying on sims. Again, I was a less-geared Warrior than pretty much every DPS except one in the SoO group and I dominated the meters on most fights, even while screwing up my rotation, with Execute being one of my main sources of damage.
Is thirst for blood the slam proc? read on EJ/Icy Veins that its pretty much a straight dps loss compared to sudden death and sudden death is pretty much the only viable talent for the arms tree No. It's the rend-procc. Slam is a straight DPS loss to anything. Even taking no talent at all is better than slam. I'd like you to show me where they say that SD is the only viable option for arms though, because that goes basically against everything i've read there. In fact, icy veins even tell you in their arms guide that TfB hands down is the strongest talent, so i heavily doubt your statement. edit: doesn't matter. The last two pages are dedicated to why your statement (was made by a different person) is wrong, including (albeit simple) math. No need to go over it again. Then they've changed it in the past few days, when the patch came out and i was looking over SD was hands down the best talent on there and ej. I can believe it is a dps increase, i was rage starved pretty much the entire time playing arms tbh.
Yes, 20% proc would be better in most cases. But that's not the case anymore.
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On October 23 2014 08:35 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 08:32 arb wrote:On October 23 2014 07:52 m4ini wrote:On October 23 2014 07:49 arb wrote:On October 23 2014 07:23 Gorsameth wrote:On October 23 2014 07:20 arb wrote:On October 23 2014 07:15 m4ini wrote:On October 23 2014 07:11 arb wrote:On October 22 2014 22:02 deth2munkies wrote:
Taste for Blood does not deal any additional damage, try reading the tooltip. I just confirmed it in game. Execute still costs rage under 20% and costs enough that you can run out spamming it on every GCD (even with TfB) without the proc periodically making it free. If you're going to try to tell me what's better for my class, I'd suggest at least reading the abilities you're looking at.
I learn by doing and practicing, not relying on sims. Again, I was a less-geared Warrior than pretty much every DPS except one in the SoO group and I dominated the meters on most fights, even while screwing up my rotation, with Execute being one of my main sources of damage.
Is thirst for blood the slam proc? read on EJ/Icy Veins that its pretty much a straight dps loss compared to sudden death and sudden death is pretty much the only viable talent for the arms tree No. It's the rend-procc. Slam is a straight DPS loss to anything. Even taking no talent at all is better than slam. I'd like you to show me where they say that SD is the only viable option for arms though, because that goes basically against everything i've read there. In fact, icy veins even tell you in their arms guide that TfB hands down is the strongest talent, so i heavily doubt your statement. edit: doesn't matter. The last two pages are dedicated to why your statement (was made by a different person) is wrong, including (albeit simple) math. No need to go over it again. Then they've changed it in the past few days, when the patch came out and i was looking over SD was hands down the best talent on there and ej. I can believe it is a dps increase, i was rage starved pretty much the entire time playing arms tbh. It depends on when you looked. SD was stealth nerfed when 6.0 was deployed on live. On the beta and ptr it had a 20% proc chance and when the patch was deployed it was stealth nerfed down to 10%. If you checked your info before this was discovered then you are right that SD was prob the best talent. It was before the stealth nerf i take. Because i am 110% certain of what i read. Well - now it's TfB, according to icy veins and ejs, so.. Which I could see, i felt ridiculously rage starved trying to cast all the shit i had to cast as arms. Got 4pc T16? Just don't forget to rend everything around you (estimates say 3-4 targets is the sweet spot, if possible), it's additive - you get rage from every tick on every mob. Even on trashmobs/adds in bossfights, as long as they live longer than 9 seconds i believe, it's worth it.
last time i raided was FL, just leveled my characters for wod, so i havent really gave a shit about gear
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
Not bad January heroic spoils, why did you stop?
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On October 24 2014 02:57 Pandemona wrote:
Not bad January heroic spoils, why did you stop?
Some old people just didn't wanna play anymore and some issues with the people there was brought in.. But right now we're just the core of our friendgroup who sees eachother in real life and have been pals for years
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it's never too late 
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Are you looking for people who are at the top now, or people who have the potential to be? For the first time in my life I'm in a situation where I can raid consistantly, and I think if I want to be I can be that person who knows the ins and outs of his class and play it to close to perfection, but I know I'm not that person yet. How do you determine how qualified applicants are?
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any chance of alliance SoO raid this weekend?
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If Deth doesn't put it together, I'll look into putting together a TL heroic on Sunday.
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On October 24 2014 06:03 farvacola wrote:
If Deth doesn't put it together, I'll look into putting together a TL heroic on Sunday.
Go for it, I let my sub lapse because I have exams coming up and need to study.
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On October 24 2014 04:45 Mikau wrote:
Are you looking for people who are at the top now, or people who have the potential to be? For the first time in my life I'm in a situation where I can raid consistantly, and I think if I want to be I can be that person who knows the ins and outs of his class and play it to close to perfection, but I know I'm not that person yet. How do you determine how qualified applicants are?
We're pretty open, just don't be an asshole ^_^ Add Shure and talk to him a bit!
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Alliance. :[
Wrong server. :[[
And too old for competetive raiding by now, girlfriend isn't really up for it. :[[[
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I just wish EU and NA could play with each other. Sucks when friends play on EU and I can't play with em T_T. I'm down for an NA raid this weekend if someone puts it together.
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EPT
