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Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
October 21 2014 19:40 GMT
#3881
For a lot of people, myself included, 60-70 is one of the most enjoyable leveling ranges just because we loved that expansion and there is a lot of nostalgia. It is not necessarily because of ease of leveling. I actually despise all of 80-90 leveling for the same reason.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
October 21 2014 19:50 GMT
#3882
I loved WotLK and I fuckin despise leveling in Northrend, nostalgia notwithstanding. Seriously, I never want to step foot in Northrend again if I can help it.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 19:58:50
October 21 2014 19:51 GMT
#3883
I liked vanilla the most, and enjoy leveling there. I saw WAY too much of BC to be able to care anymore about that expansion. Apart from the obvious part where opinions might vastly differ, and that "i like the expansion tho" is kinda no explanation why the first expansion takes 10 times longer than the last 10 levels through 2 (incl. the most recent) expansions.

edit: just had a brief check, that's actually even dumber than i thought it would be. I briefly logged onto my 85 shaman, to check how much XP he needs to lvl 86, and that would be 517.000. My mage from level 68 to 69 needs 288.000 already. On 85, every quest turned in gives you roughly 2,5% of your level, on 68 it's roughly 0.6%. No wonder that it takes ages.

edit 2: i lied, hm. It's actually less than 0.6%, a turned in quest gives you 12k/288k. More like 0.4%.
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6272 Posts
October 21 2014 19:59 GMT
#3884
On October 22 2014 04:40 Atreides wrote:
For a lot of people, myself included, 60-70 is one of the most enjoyable leveling ranges just because we loved that expansion and there is a lot of nostalgia. It is not necessarily because of ease of leveling. I actually despise all of 80-90 leveling for the same reason.

I still remember all the bitching in TBC about how vanilla was way better and now it's the best expansion apparently.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22237 Posts
October 21 2014 20:01 GMT
#3885
On October 22 2014 04:59 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 04:40 Atreides wrote:
For a lot of people, myself included, 60-70 is one of the most enjoyable leveling ranges just because we loved that expansion and there is a lot of nostalgia. It is not necessarily because of ease of leveling. I actually despise all of 80-90 leveling for the same reason.

I still remember all the bitching in TBC about how vanilla was way better and now it's the best expansion apparently.

Pff Wotlk was the most hated shit I have ever seen and now its also seen as great.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10141 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 20:03:28
October 21 2014 20:03 GMT
#3886
On October 22 2014 04:59 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 04:40 Atreides wrote:
For a lot of people, myself included, 60-70 is one of the most enjoyable leveling ranges just because we loved that expansion and there is a lot of nostalgia. It is not necessarily because of ease of leveling. I actually despise all of 80-90 leveling for the same reason.

I still remember all the bitching in TBC about how vanilla was way better and now it's the best expansion apparently.

TBC It is the best expansion, but Vanilla was better :D
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 20:07:00
October 21 2014 20:05 GMT
#3887
It's the nostalgia-goggles though.

In reality, vanilla is the best.

BC is by far the worst, since like 87% of people lvling there are deafknights. At least, were.

edit: obviously it's just my opinion. But i really miss 40s.
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
October 21 2014 20:20 GMT
#3888
I loved vanilla the most but good god the 40s made me wanna kill myself.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 20:23:57
October 21 2014 20:22 GMT
#3889
Dk's didn't exist in BC....anyway, by modern standards, let's be honest, but lots of things about the game have improved. Specs being viable, questing being viable instead of fucking farming mobs for days, pvp not being a horrible painful grind...
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
October 21 2014 20:23 GMT
#3890
On October 22 2014 05:22 Teoita wrote:
Dk's didn't exist in BC....


Didn't know that they don't need to level through BC. Because that's what i said.....................
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
October 21 2014 20:24 GMT
#3891
Oh nvm, i thought you meant that during TBC everyone switched to levelling a DK (which kind of did happen in early wotlk)
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 20:27:33
October 21 2014 20:26 GMT
#3892
Yeah, that's the reason why i hate WotLK, because it introduced them - at a time where i was playing restodruid. And they kinda made restodruids completely useless (old plague strike, still can't get behind it how a designteam has to work for them to wave it through in that form).
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22237 Posts
October 21 2014 20:27 GMT
#3893
On October 22 2014 05:26 m4ini wrote:
Yeah, that's the reason why i hate WotLK, because it introduced them - at a time where i was playing restodruid. And they kinda made restodruids completely useless (old plague strike, still can't get over it how a designteam has to work for them to wave it through in that form).

The same way a design team made the 100's of stupid choices they did with the class remakes for WOD :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 20:33:47
October 21 2014 20:31 GMT
#3894
On October 22 2014 05:27 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 05:26 m4ini wrote:
Yeah, that's the reason why i hate WotLK, because it introduced them - at a time where i was playing restodruid. And they kinda made restodruids completely useless (old plague strike, still can't get over it how a designteam has to work for them to wave it through in that form).

The same way a design team made the 100's of stupid choices they did with the class remakes for WOD :p


Well to be fair, as retarded as the class-changes are (i still stand firm behind that opinion), i yet have to see a skill or something that renders another spec completely useless. It wasn't even a balancing issue back in the day, it was the fact that a resto had to heal via HoTs (the strong instants weren't there yet) - and another class removed all of them with a spamable skill. That one skill in it's original form basically made another class (spec, rather) completely unplayable. Not because it was hard to play around it (like warris in arenas could/can play around frostmages), but because you simply could not play around it. It's not like DKs didn't do damage either, they hitted harder than any other meleeclass.

Sorry for the rant, but honestly, that one for me takes the cake for the most retarded decision the designteam ever did. Up to today that pisses me off kinda :D

edit: and i know that priests/shamans could dispel HoTs as well, but they procced the endheal of Lifebloom, plague strike didn't. It just removed everything, and on top of that, it was part of their "damagerotation" anyway, so they didn't even have to make a concious decision to remove stuff "now", it just happened.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 20:56:11
October 21 2014 20:53 GMT
#3895
Most people that played actively in TBC say they hate leveling in 60-70 because they're just so sick of it now, but for me it's the opposite. I was most active in TBC and 60-70 is still my favorite stretch these days, probably due in small part to the nostalgia, but mostly because it's the only place really where you can still have 12-15 active quests at a time and do massive turn-ins. It's my preferred way of questing, and is insanely fast these days with heirlooms. HFP, first half-ish of Zangarmarsh, and then Nagrand. Super fast and easy 60-70, with all three zones offering 10+ quests active at all times basically.

In every other expansion+vanilla*, I have zones I love and zones I hate, so it all smears out a bit. TBC content is still reliably entertaining, if not for the change of pace alone after doing the "clumpy"/regionalized end of Azeroth.

*sans Pandaria, which I universally hate just for it's monotony and drabness. I actually didn't hate MoP (expansion) as much as a lot of people seemed to; I thought it introduced a lot of good new ideas and quality of life stuff that will be great moving forward. I just disliked Pandaria itself quite a bit.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 21:05:30
October 21 2014 21:03 GMT
#3896
It's my preferred way of questing, and is insanely fast these days with heirlooms


Not true anymore. By experience, just started blades edge now - went through all quests in nagrand (like an hour ago) and barely reached 68 (started at 66). Full heirlooms.

edit: apart from that, you're right. I'm sick of TBC because i've literally seen everything there. Millions of times. There's where things differ though: i like the small questhubs, 5 quests, kill stuff, collect things, turn in quests, next 5 please. My prefered way of questing. Most likely that's part of my aversion for TBC too.
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Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
October 21 2014 21:08 GMT
#3897
Loved the whole first Pandaria Zone, epic scenery etc... Then you kinda capped out after doing half of another zone... and that was it. Then the story kept going on about these spirits I had never met somehow being important, supposedly already knowing me... And this was right after launch, what the hell?
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 21:20:51
October 21 2014 21:19 GMT
#3898
Some stories were cool in pandaria, others kinda meh. Jade forest was cool, and so was fighting along with the shado-pan and chasing the sha of anger in townlong steppes. The klaxxi stuff in dread wastes is cool too. Valley of the four winds, krasarang and parts of kun lai summit where meh tho. Overall though the place really looks pretty.

My favourite quest chain is still the Thorim one in storm peaks though.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
October 21 2014 21:28 GMT
#3899
On October 22 2014 04:33 Godwrath wrote:
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On October 22 2014 04:15 m4ini wrote:
After levelling my mage from 63 to 67 today, i'm starting to think that there's a huge discrepancy in "xp-balance". It's kinda dumb to be able to level from 85 to 90 in two hours straight, but 60 to 65/70 takes you three times that much. oO

edit: well not two hours straight, but under three hours

If you can reliabily queue up for dungeons, do it. It is much faster imo to level up that way at those levels.

ViperPL, do you mean post patch ? Because XP changed a lot.


I never did TBC levels post 6.0 so don't know if it changed, but before the patch it was very fast, unlike 85-90, which took forever. Now, after 6.0 I only did 85-90 and it was a breez, but no idea about Outland.
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
October 21 2014 21:29 GMT
#3900
On October 22 2014 06:28 ViperPL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 04:33 Godwrath wrote:
On October 22 2014 04:15 m4ini wrote:
After levelling my mage from 63 to 67 today, i'm starting to think that there's a huge discrepancy in "xp-balance". It's kinda dumb to be able to level from 85 to 90 in two hours straight, but 60 to 65/70 takes you three times that much. oO

edit: well not two hours straight, but under three hours

If you can reliabily queue up for dungeons, do it. It is much faster imo to level up that way at those levels.

ViperPL, do you mean post patch ? Because XP changed a lot.


I never did TBC levels post 6.0 so don't know if it changed, but before the patch it was very fast, unlike 85-90, which took forever. Now, after 6.0 I only did 85-90 and it was a breez, but no idea about Outland.


It basically is the other way around now. 85-90 is almost too fast, and 65-70 takes waay too long now.
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