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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22576 Posts
September 08 2014 08:51 GMT
#3061
On September 08 2014 11:42 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Ok... How the fuck do you solo Kaelthas in TK as a 90 prot paladin? You can't kite the fuckers cause the door locks, and in phase 3 you're permastunned so long that you could have a million health and still fucking die. What am I missing here? I can't burn the stupid bitch with the 10 second CC because well.... I'm CC'd. Halp!

I swear to god this guy was easier when he was current content =(

You can kite them across the entire instance Oo. As soon as the RP shit starts you can run out the room, plenty of time for that so you dont need a pet to pull. Then you have the entire instance to work with.

Kill the warrior and paladin at the instance entrance. Kill the engineer in Alar's room and kill the mage in the little hallway at the entrance to Kael's room. This will let you use the walls to stop the knockback and you then have to burst down the mage, should be doable by the time the engineer reaches you.

(unless it changed since WotLK where I was doing this on my DK).
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 08 2014 10:05 GMT
#3062
Did they change kael? I've been soloing him on druid since 80 or 85. I can't imagine it being hard for a prot pally. I used to just tank all of them near kael and grab the staff when it came up. Switch to kitty for some burst on kael in the last phase.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 08 2014 10:06 GMT
#3063
On September 08 2014 19:05 Serejai wrote:
Did they change kael? I've been soloing him on druid since 80 or 85. I can't imagine it being hard for a prot pally. I used to just tank all of them near kael and grab the staff when it came up. Switch to kitty for some burst on kael in the last phase.


Paladins can't equip staves.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
September 08 2014 10:06 GMT
#3064
I'm not sure paladins can use staves tho
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 08 2014 10:24 GMT
#3065
OH
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22576 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 10:36:33
September 08 2014 10:34 GMT
#3066
Yeah not being able to use the staff is a big deal since the mage is the only difficult part of the encounter since she can stunlock near infinitely.

That said with the way the squish works inside old raids I expect everyone will be 1-2 shooting her come WoD so its no big deal. (for those who dont know this, you will deal extra damage against lower level mobs so people are seeing 1+ mil hits in stuff like Naxx on the beta. And no its not a bug, its there to ensure they can still be solo'd post squish)
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 08 2014 10:57 GMT
#3067
Difference between being soloable and being trivial though. Up until now some bosses are trivial while some bosses are harder to solo than heroic raiding or challenge modes. After the squish those hard solo encounters are basically gone, so anyone wanting to solo a boss for the challenge should definitely do it now.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22576 Posts
September 08 2014 11:00 GMT
#3068
On September 08 2014 19:57 Serejai wrote:
Difference between being soloable and being trivial though. Up until now some bosses are trivial while some bosses are harder to solo than heroic raiding or challenge modes. After the squish those hard solo encounters are basically gone, so anyone wanting to solo a boss for the challenge should definitely do it now.

True tho I assume since he's talking about Kael he wants the mount and not the challenge :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 08 2014 13:57 GMT
#3069
On September 08 2014 11:53 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 11:46 deth2munkies wrote:
On September 08 2014 11:42 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Ok... How the fuck do you solo Kaelthas in TK as a 90 prot paladin? You can't kite the fuckers cause the door locks, and in phase 3 you're permastunned so long that you could have a million health and still fucking die. What am I missing here? I can't burn the stupid bitch with the 10 second CC because well.... I'm CC'd. Halp!


The shield makes you immune to the fear. Theoretically you're supposed to use the Staff for the stun, but Ret should probably be able to burst down the engineer that's permastunning you and be fine.


It's actually not the engineer. It's the blood elf hoe with the 10 second disorient


The Engineer puts a 1 minute debuff on you that randomly stuns you for 4 seconds. It has a knack for stunning you several times in a row and only giving you maybe 1.5 seconds of free time.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Noizhende
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria328 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 20:05:50
September 08 2014 19:59 GMT
#3070
you can evade the engineer stuff by moving around him in a circle while bursting him down, he targets ground with his explosive if i remember correctly

what's your second spec? as ret it was pretty easy after figuring out the engineer

edit: ah just read your other comment ret is awesome :D
Die neuen Tempel haben schon Risse - künftige Ruinen - einst wächst Gras auch über diese Stadt - über ihre letzte Schicht
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
September 09 2014 00:33 GMT
#3071
On September 08 2014 22:57 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 11:53 Ayaz2810 wrote:
On September 08 2014 11:46 deth2munkies wrote:
On September 08 2014 11:42 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Ok... How the fuck do you solo Kaelthas in TK as a 90 prot paladin? You can't kite the fuckers cause the door locks, and in phase 3 you're permastunned so long that you could have a million health and still fucking die. What am I missing here? I can't burn the stupid bitch with the 10 second CC because well.... I'm CC'd. Halp!


The shield makes you immune to the fear. Theoretically you're supposed to use the Staff for the stun, but Ret should probably be able to burst down the engineer that's permastunning you and be fine.


It's actually not the engineer. It's the blood elf hoe with the 10 second disorient


The Engineer puts a 1 minute debuff on you that randomly stuns you for 4 seconds. It has a knack for stunning you several times in a row and only giving you maybe 1.5 seconds of free time.


I haven't ran TK on my rogue in a while, but I'm pretty sure that debuff is cloakable. Shouldn't Divine Shield work as well?
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
September 09 2014 16:42 GMT
#3072
Yeah I'm not concerned about the engineer. That mage looking blood elf bitch is the one I hate. Still haven't been able to pull it off. Very frustrating considering how easy it is for other classes with burst damage. I really hate that I'm going to probably have a hunter friend help me and roll against me if it drops. Still considering making a ret set but every time I think about all the work involved in gearing another spec, I just blow it off lol
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FrankDaGreat
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada31 Posts
September 09 2014 17:20 GMT
#3073
I soloed Kael for about 5 months straight on about 6 different classes ( i got my mount about 3 weeks ago ) here are a few tips that could help you:

1- Phase 1 and 2 are trivial ( as you probably have guessed at this point ) Just single dps the boss in P1 and aoe in P2.

2- Phase 3, the hard part for most people is getting rid of the mage, if you are a decently geared pally ( even if prot ) here is what i would advise you to do:

In phase 1, try to have the 3 other bosses chases you to where the mage is ( they are fairly weak in that phase so just wait until they walk up to you ) you should be able to keep them all 4 at the same spot ) When phase 3 start, drop both consecrate and a light hammer on top of it, as soon as they get up, you will usually get punted around, try to place yourself against the right pillar, you should stay close and they will stay in the AOE. I would recommend getting a pvp trinket if you aren't human, you can dispel the 9 sec stun with it. If you blow all your cool down and target the mage as much as possible, she should die before you need to bubble. After that, clean up the rest and bubble to remove the engi stun debuff if it bugs you ( it will clear all of them ) KT can still be a bitch as he will sometime cast a aoe stun that will hit you, just keep healed and he should die

Also note that it is much easier to solo than do it with someone else for 1 simple reason, when you hit the KT phase, he will MC someone randomly, increasing their HP and damage by a lot and can be only dispelled by getting hit by the dagger, i tried a few time with a friend and we mostly ended up dead before we could do anything about it. Same with classes with Pet ( even totems ) Do not use them in the KT phase, he will MC you and then he will despawn ( Even trinkets proc that give you temporary companion will do this )

Feel free to ask questions if you still struggle
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” ― Albert Einstein
Noizhende
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria328 Posts
September 09 2014 18:13 GMT
#3074
On September 10 2014 01:42 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Yeah I'm not concerned about the engineer. That mage looking blood elf bitch is the one I hate. Still haven't been able to pull it off. Very frustrating considering how easy it is for other classes with burst damage. I really hate that I'm going to probably have a hunter friend help me and roll against me if it drops. Still considering making a ret set but every time I think about all the work involved in gearing another spec, I just blow it off lol


well i mean, you can just use the items you use as prot, since ret is haste>mastery too
only thing you need is a 2hand
Die neuen Tempel haben schon Risse - künftige Ruinen - einst wächst Gras auch über diese Stadt - über ihre letzte Schicht
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
September 09 2014 19:08 GMT
#3075
On September 10 2014 02:20 FrankDaGreat wrote:
I soloed Kael for about 5 months straight on about 6 different classes ( i got my mount about 3 weeks ago ) here are a few tips that could help you:

1- Phase 1 and 2 are trivial ( as you probably have guessed at this point ) Just single dps the boss in P1 and aoe in P2.

2- Phase 3, the hard part for most people is getting rid of the mage, if you are a decently geared pally ( even if prot ) here is what i would advise you to do:

In phase 1, try to have the 3 other bosses chases you to where the mage is ( they are fairly weak in that phase so just wait until they walk up to you ) you should be able to keep them all 4 at the same spot ) When phase 3 start, drop both consecrate and a light hammer on top of it, as soon as they get up, you will usually get punted around, try to place yourself against the right pillar, you should stay close and they will stay in the AOE. I would recommend getting a pvp trinket if you aren't human, you can dispel the 9 sec stun with it. If you blow all your cool down and target the mage as much as possible, she should die before you need to bubble. After that, clean up the rest and bubble to remove the engi stun debuff if it bugs you ( it will clear all of them ) KT can still be a bitch as he will sometime cast a aoe stun that will hit you, just keep healed and he should die

Also note that it is much easier to solo than do it with someone else for 1 simple reason, when you hit the KT phase, he will MC someone randomly, increasing their HP and damage by a lot and can be only dispelled by getting hit by the dagger, i tried a few time with a friend and we mostly ended up dead before we could do anything about it. Same with classes with Pet ( even totems ) Do not use them in the KT phase, he will MC you and then he will despawn ( Even trinkets proc that give you temporary companion will do this )

Feel free to ask questions if you still struggle


Thank you for the info! That actually sounds pretty easy. I'll give it a shot this evening and let you know =)
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
September 10 2014 00:06 GMT
#3076
Got into the WoD beta, first ever WoW beta I've been in, so happy :D
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 10 2014 00:38 GMT
#3077
On September 10 2014 09:06 Sgany wrote:
Got into the WoD beta, first ever WoW beta I've been in, so happy :D


Lucky bastard.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
September 10 2014 00:49 GMT
#3078
On September 10 2014 03:13 Noizhende wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 01:42 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Yeah I'm not concerned about the engineer. That mage looking blood elf bitch is the one I hate. Still haven't been able to pull it off. Very frustrating considering how easy it is for other classes with burst damage. I really hate that I'm going to probably have a hunter friend help me and roll against me if it drops. Still considering making a ret set but every time I think about all the work involved in gearing another spec, I just blow it off lol


well i mean, you can just use the items you use as prot, since ret is haste>mastery too
only thing you need is a 2hand


Run lfr/flex as tank and set loot spec to ret on bosses that drop a 2h (iirc Sha's 2h is BiS) -> profit
ffxiv enjoyer
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
September 10 2014 05:40 GMT
#3079
On September 10 2014 09:38 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 09:06 Sgany wrote:
Got into the WoD beta, first ever WoW beta I've been in, so happy :D


Lucky bastard.


Hasn't it opened for everyone yet? I got in, so I assumed so, since I'm not a very hardcore player.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 10 2014 09:44 GMT
#3080
On September 10 2014 14:40 Arnstein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 09:38 deth2munkies wrote:
On September 10 2014 09:06 Sgany wrote:
Got into the WoD beta, first ever WoW beta I've been in, so happy :D


Lucky bastard.


Hasn't it opened for everyone yet? I got in, so I assumed so, since I'm not a very hardcore player.


Nope, and I've been playing since before my server had a lvl 60. Weighting it for veteran accounts my ass.
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