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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 13 2016 15:31 GMT
#161
No build orders afaik, play the way you want, with the talent/skill system. Either heals, turrets or tanking items.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
March 13 2016 16:06 GMT
#162
i find it perfectly safe to solo darkzone, at least with the current way rogue works
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 03:53:56
March 14 2016 03:53 GMT
#163
Who want to rogue when you lose levels as a counter when your hunted and killed...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 14 2016 12:18 GMT
#164
On March 11 2016 20:26 Pandemona wrote:
Picked up an ACR last night to improve my damage, im only level 10. Liking that gun due to low recoil, going to try some more hard missions tonight with my group. However we have done "hardly" any missions and we are 32% done with the content according to stats thing they show. Guess the PvE side is going to rely alot on dlc which is fine.

Once you find L-86 you will fall in love and cry when it won't be good enough but you cannot replace it with better L-86

God I loved the part of the game where I had that gun. I hope I will soon find a better version
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 14 2016 12:28 GMT
#165
Haha yeah im now running back with an Classic AK and Aug SMG. I find i need an SMG secondary and an Assault Rifle primary.
Level 27 and half atm should get 30 sometime this week but i struggle for time to play in week due to work, gym and stuff i help with on here xd

Have a nice steady 40k hp though which makes me feel big boy
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
March 14 2016 12:30 GMT
#166
On March 14 2016 21:28 Pandemona wrote:
Haha yeah im now running back with an Classic AK and Aug SMG. I find i need an SMG secondary and an Assault Rifle primary.
Level 27 and half atm should get 30 sometime this week but i struggle for time to play in week due to work, gym and stuff i help with on here xd

Have a nice steady 40k hp though which makes me feel big boy


40k hp is what many people have at level 30 because they're stupid and ignore stamina (don't be that guy). Aug is hilariously strong, think it's the best SMG and SMGs are arguably the best weapons overall atm.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 14 2016 12:32 GMT
#167
Yeah im only 27 atm and my friends same level all sub 25k hp cuz they ignoring stamina
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
March 14 2016 12:50 GMT
#168
is fire power even worth it tho

stamina/skill seems much better all around
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 14 2016 13:04 GMT
#169
I was wondering the same thing Faruko. I always mod stamina or skill power depending on which mods give more stamina/power. Skill power for me as i am based around healing talents/skills. Pulse Scanner with perk to increase its crit and then the heal box which pulse heals and perk to give ammo back.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
March 14 2016 13:26 GMT
#170
On March 14 2016 21:50 Faruko wrote:
is fire power even worth it tho

stamina/skill seems much better all around


It depends on what you're doing, really. For PVP, stamina is for sure the most important stat since cooldowns on heals are short enough so running a build heavy on stamina & armor gives you way more survivability than the numbers show as you're more likely to survive until your next heal is off cooldown. In PVE, you definitely want at least 2 people per group with reasonable firepower otherwise shit takes forever to kill, in challenge mode anyway. Both for skill builds and firepower builds talents and secondary stats are just as if not more important than the primary stat, though. You can stack quite a lot of modifiers to the skills you're using, or +dmg for your gun type, crit / headshot modifiers etc.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
March 14 2016 13:33 GMT
#171
lol im sitting here with only 30k hp and trying to do challenge missions, maybe i should recalibrate some of my gear....
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
March 14 2016 14:00 GMT
#172
I just started to do challenge missions and its not to bad. I'm sitting on 50k hp and like 117k dps with my assault rifle. I've been using a bolt action sniper as my secondary. The head shots crit for about 400k with it.
It is what it is
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
March 15 2016 13:26 GMT
#173
players are reporting the devs stealth nerfed marksman rifle headshot bonuses, after they stated that they only did server performance tweaks and made no gameplay changes. hope this isnt true...
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-15 14:45:45
March 15 2016 14:44 GMT
#174
I really hope not those headshot crits were so satisfying and not game breaking in anyway. At least mine were not hah.

Edit: Was this after today's maintenance? or the one from the other day?
It is what it is
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
March 15 2016 14:48 GMT
#175
today's maintenance yeah
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 15 2016 15:08 GMT
#176
So are you saying we should focus on mods that concentrate on Stamina and Skill+?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
psyq
Profile Joined August 2010
Philippines152 Posts
March 15 2016 15:19 GMT
#177
I've read that there was a maintenance, I'm currently at work. I hope to be able to login this time around, it's been 4 days since I installed the game and filed a support ticket, to which I haven't gotten a response from any rep. I'm unable to launch the game ever since.
JWD[9]
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
364 Posts
March 15 2016 17:24 GMT
#178
Hm, I am not 30 yet.
But if a headshot hits for 150k+ and you don't get more than 80k health/40%dmg reduction, you die with 1 shot in pvp no matter if you have 80k or 10k life, am I missing something here? (not that anybody would pvp)
When I got hit from SMG during beta I was in some form of a stun mode, don't know if you can outheal long enough during that so the enemy has to reload. Not convinced Stamina is worth it.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 00:00:46
March 15 2016 23:59 GMT
#179
So I am now level 7 almost 8 but this Matchmaking is confusing as hell, couldn't finish the Hudson mission last night as needed to sleep and everyone left so I login today and am put in with a group that is already inside the Mission zone but the fucking gate is closed and nobody can get in expect the two players that were already inside, wtf?

Then there's matchmaking where I guess it's looking but then on the bottom right says there an invite or whatever but no matter what button I push nothing happens even the control pad
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 02:41:58
March 16 2016 00:47 GMT
#180
On March 16 2016 02:24 JWD[9] wrote:
Hm, I am not 30 yet.
But if a headshot hits for 150k+ and you don't get more than 80k health/40%dmg reduction, you die with 1 shot in pvp no matter if you have 80k or 10k life, am I missing something here? (not that anybody would pvp)
When I got hit from SMG during beta I was in some form of a stun mode, don't know if you can outheal long enough during that so the enemy has to reload. Not convinced Stamina is worth it.


With high level gear, you should have ~55-60% damage reduction from armor, not 40%. Think there is some further -dmg modifier in pvp too although its hard to check since yeah, nobody does pvp.

edit: speaking of which, any of you guys bored of carebearing forever and want to shoot some people? I've had no luck getting ANYONE to actually team up with for some rogue shenanigans ever
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