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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
May 22 2013 04:02 GMT
#1121
Ok, PS4 already looks more promising than the Xbox One, for gaming that is...
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 04:06:14
May 22 2013 04:04 GMT
#1122
On May 22 2013 12:52 Seraphic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:46 Leporello wrote:
They really did try most of these things with the 360, to make it a "one-stop multimedia center".

I wish they'd just STFU with that garbage. You're a console and your job is to play games. When I look at the Xbox brand, it's because I like to play games. Why are they trying to sell me a fancy television accessory that I don't need, when I'm looking for a gaming console? This is MS sticking their head up their ass.

Hopefully the actual console is good, and hopefully it gets a good variety of games besides the obligatory CoD/EASports rakes, and hopefully it isn't bogged down with marketing and anti-piracy schemes. But everything in this presentation seems to suggest the opposite.


That's the problem most people have so far with the One. Everyone, even in the gaming industry had said, One needs to focus on the gamers, NOT media. Which Microsoft completely ignored when they showed off the One. Showing CoD: Ghost doesn't mean anything. CoD has become a yearly thing, it's no big deal anymore.

Hell even PS4 did that, but not to such an extent. E3 will be where it matters. That's when people will decide.

Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says. I'll never really understand the train of thought people have wanting less features. What does "focus more on gamers" even mean? Microsoft is a massive company having some of their resources focus on media features doesn't take away from "gamers". People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. What is being taken away? What is missing? All I hear is bitching with no reasons.
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Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 04:25:34
May 22 2013 04:05 GMT
#1123
On May 22 2013 12:50 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:33 Seraphic wrote:
Ya I personally wasn't impressed and I been a majority 360 person.

I have both consoles 360 and PS3 and my time between the two is massive. 98% on 360, rest on PS3 (Blu-Ray movies mainly.) To be honest, I wasn't surprised no one was impressed with the XBox One after PS4 reveal. Because the two systems, more or less provide the same thing at the end of the day. Both systems are Blu-Ray now, both are Next-Gen consoles that are as powerful as the current generation PCs. Both will most likely have the same graphics (if you aren't into the details that is.)

There are 2 things that bug me with the One. Backwards Compatibility is missing on the One, and Pre-Owned Games require a fee. The Pre-Owned games will harm the One a lot. A LOT. PS4 already has that up on the One. XBox Live also requires you to pay, while PSN doesn't. With the amount of games on the 360, having no backwards compatibility is quite awkward.

To be perfectly honest, I'm a bit scared for the One. If they do not show the games side of the system, blowing people away at E3 especially, PS4 will win this console war. There is no point in throwing the Wii U in that equation when the Wii U is suffering hard already.

It will depend I think how much games cost. If the games are still 60 dollars, (which I think won't change...) It won't matter how good PS4 or One are, the gaming industry will continue to suffer until the game prices drop. Both system are Blu-Ray. You pay roughly 20-30 dollars tops for an new Blu-Ray movie. So ask yourself, why are we doubling that for a game with basically the same content?


*snipped*

Still, I can't wait until PC is the absolutely go to place for gaming (inevitable IMO). 3D monitors are easy to get (and stuff like Oculus Rift are developing quickly); you could get accessories for motion-related advancements, etc. Gaming will bloom once this petty console wars era ends, sooner than later one can hope when they all crash and burn!

*EDIT : Just realized nintendo 3DS is the only "console" that is even interesting right now. Sad day for console gamers.


It does seem to me that the approach of Xbox One is to simply encourage people to not buy consoles at all.

If you're going to buy expensive hardware to handle all your media-entertainment, with which you'll need internet for full functionality, you can either buy this box which comes with every restriction you can think of... or you can buy a PC and have actual control over your hardware and software. Hmmm.

Consoles have a place -- as an alternative to the PC, and an alternative to the television. I don't know what MS thinks it's selling.


I could justify owning a 360, while still having a PC. I could casually play some games on it, hook it up to any TV in the house and just play. Very user-friendly, very simple.

"Adding features" is great, unless it completely destroys the primary function of your fucking product. Turning your console into some internet-dependent media-center means it's no longer a console. It's a gaudy internet-accessory for your television, that happens to play games.

Bottom-line is if this console requires internet connection, I simply no longer have use for it. I'm not sure how that's "adding features".
Big water
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 04:08:13
May 22 2013 04:06 GMT
#1124
This is just God awful and makes me lose my faith in consoles.

Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says. I'll never really understand the train of thought people have wanting less features. What does "focus more on gamers" even mean? Microsoft is a massive company having some of their resources focus on media features doesn't take away from "gamers". People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. What is being taken away? What is missing? All I hear is bitching with no reasons.


What's being taken away? MS is trying to destroy both the rental and used game industries. Not only that, they're destroying the main gaming purpose of console games; to be able to play offline.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
kmillz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1548 Posts
May 22 2013 04:11 GMT
#1125
On May 22 2013 13:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
This is just God awful and makes me lose my faith in consoles.

Show nested quote +
Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says. I'll never really understand the train of thought people have wanting less features. What does "focus more on gamers" even mean? Microsoft is a massive company having some of their resources focus on media features doesn't take away from "gamers". People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. What is being taken away? What is missing? All I hear is bitching with no reasons.


What's being taken away? MS is trying to destroy both the rental and used game industries. Not only that, they're destroying the main gaming purpose of console games; to be able to play offline.


Completely agree. The quality of games should always be the number one priority for any console made.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 04:16:43
May 22 2013 04:15 GMT
#1126
On May 22 2013 13:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
This is just God awful and makes me lose my faith in consoles.

Show nested quote +
Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says. I'll never really understand the train of thought people have wanting less features. What does "focus more on gamers" even mean? Microsoft is a massive company having some of their resources focus on media features doesn't take away from "gamers". People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. What is being taken away? What is missing? All I hear is bitching with no reasons.


What's being taken away? MS is trying to destroy both the rental and used game industries. Not only that, they're destroying the main gaming purpose of console games; to be able to play offline.

People have been saying this way before the reveal. It's as if having more features takes away from games somehow. And that's a large claim for not knowing much of anything about how the system will work. I would bet confidently there will be a program for rental licenses. As for used games we will have to see, we don't have enough information yet. I hope it's not what you claim though because I buy a lot of used games.
dude bro.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 04:23:19
May 22 2013 04:17 GMT
#1127
On May 22 2013 13:04 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:52 Seraphic wrote:
On May 22 2013 12:46 Leporello wrote:
They really did try most of these things with the 360, to make it a "one-stop multimedia center".

I wish they'd just STFU with that garbage. You're a console and your job is to play games. When I look at the Xbox brand, it's because I like to play games. Why are they trying to sell me a fancy television accessory that I don't need, when I'm looking for a gaming console? This is MS sticking their head up their ass.

Hopefully the actual console is good, and hopefully it gets a good variety of games besides the obligatory CoD/EASports rakes, and hopefully it isn't bogged down with marketing and anti-piracy schemes. But everything in this presentation seems to suggest the opposite.


That's the problem most people have so far with the One. Everyone, even in the gaming industry had said, One needs to focus on the gamers, NOT media. Which Microsoft completely ignored when they showed off the One. Showing CoD: Ghost doesn't mean anything. CoD has become a yearly thing, it's no big deal anymore.

Hell even PS4 did that, but not to such an extent. E3 will be where it matters. That's when people will decide.

Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says.

Microsoft is not historically known for good customer requirement gathering and analysis, so I'm not sure about that. Their design methods aren't great.

And yes, resources that are allocated for things like home media centers are resources that aren't going to the gaming side of things. That's how projects work.
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 22 2013 04:18 GMT
#1128
On May 22 2013 13:11 kmillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 13:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
This is just God awful and makes me lose my faith in consoles.

Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says. I'll never really understand the train of thought people have wanting less features. What does "focus more on gamers" even mean? Microsoft is a massive company having some of their resources focus on media features doesn't take away from "gamers". People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. What is being taken away? What is missing? All I hear is bitching with no reasons.


What's being taken away? MS is trying to destroy both the rental and used game industries. Not only that, they're destroying the main gaming purpose of console games; to be able to play offline.


Completely agree. The quality of games should always be the number one priority for any console made.

OK. But why would having media features take away from the quality of games?
dude bro.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 22 2013 04:21 GMT
#1129
On May 22 2013 13:18 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 13:11 kmillz wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
This is just God awful and makes me lose my faith in consoles.

Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says. I'll never really understand the train of thought people have wanting less features. What does "focus more on gamers" even mean? Microsoft is a massive company having some of their resources focus on media features doesn't take away from "gamers". People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. What is being taken away? What is missing? All I hear is bitching with no reasons.


What's being taken away? MS is trying to destroy both the rental and used game industries. Not only that, they're destroying the main gaming purpose of console games; to be able to play offline.


Completely agree. The quality of games should always be the number one priority for any console made.

OK. But why would having media features take away from the quality of games?

Because in product design you have limited time and resources, so you need to pick your priorities and allocate the most money and expertise for those things. If they're giving it a big marketing push, then it's a top priority and they've got valuable resources dedicated to making sure it turns out well, and those valuable resources could be used elsewhere.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 04:33:24
May 22 2013 04:26 GMT
#1130
double post
Big water
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 22 2013 04:30 GMT
#1131
On May 22 2013 13:21 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 13:18 heliusx wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:11 kmillz wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
This is just God awful and makes me lose my faith in consoles.

Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says. I'll never really understand the train of thought people have wanting less features. What does "focus more on gamers" even mean? Microsoft is a massive company having some of their resources focus on media features doesn't take away from "gamers". People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. What is being taken away? What is missing? All I hear is bitching with no reasons.


What's being taken away? MS is trying to destroy both the rental and used game industries. Not only that, they're destroying the main gaming purpose of console games; to be able to play offline.


Completely agree. The quality of games should always be the number one priority for any console made.

OK. But why would having media features take away from the quality of games?

Because in product design you have limited time and resources, so you need to pick your priorities and allocate the most money and expertise for those things. If they're giving it a big marketing push, then it's a top priority and they've got valuable resources dedicated to making sure it turns out well, and those valuable resources could be used elsewhere.

What do you think they didn't spend enough time with? What "for gamers" features are you missing out on?
dude bro.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
May 22 2013 04:32 GMT
#1132
On May 22 2013 13:18 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 13:11 kmillz wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
This is just God awful and makes me lose my faith in consoles.

Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says. I'll never really understand the train of thought people have wanting less features. What does "focus more on gamers" even mean? Microsoft is a massive company having some of their resources focus on media features doesn't take away from "gamers". People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. What is being taken away? What is missing? All I hear is bitching with no reasons.


What's being taken away? MS is trying to destroy both the rental and used game industries. Not only that, they're destroying the main gaming purpose of console games; to be able to play offline.


Completely agree. The quality of games should always be the number one priority for any console made.

OK. But why would having media features take away from the quality of games?


But why force stuff on people they that'll cost extra money they don't need/want or can't even use. The entertainment part of the Xbox is just unneccesary . Offer it as optional stuff you can pay for if you like but don't make it essentially what your selling your system with.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 04:32:30
May 22 2013 04:32 GMT
#1133
On May 22 2013 13:18 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 13:11 kmillz wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
This is just God awful and makes me lose my faith in consoles.

Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says. I'll never really understand the train of thought people have wanting less features. What does "focus more on gamers" even mean? Microsoft is a massive company having some of their resources focus on media features doesn't take away from "gamers". People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. What is being taken away? What is missing? All I hear is bitching with no reasons.


What's being taken away? MS is trying to destroy both the rental and used game industries. Not only that, they're destroying the main gaming purpose of console games; to be able to play offline.


Completely agree. The quality of games should always be the number one priority for any console made.

OK. But why would having media features take away from the quality of games?


Sometimes the simplicity of a product is part of what defines it. Why own a good knife when you can have a Swiss Army knife with 20 different functions? Because I just want a good knife, that's why. I don't need a corkscrew and crappy scissors, when I'm just trying to cut a thick piece of rope.

Why don't we all just use sporks? Does adding prongs to a spoon not cease to make it a spoon?

Simplicity separates consoles from PCs. Xbox One effectively destroys that separation, leaving it as an absolutely awful and undesirable alternative to simply buying a PC. It really is a PC at this point, except that it demands you keep it internet-connected, and demands you not change anything about its hardware or software. Why bother?
Big water
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 22 2013 04:36 GMT
#1134
On May 22 2013 13:30 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 13:21 Jibba wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:18 heliusx wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:11 kmillz wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
This is just God awful and makes me lose my faith in consoles.

Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says. I'll never really understand the train of thought people have wanting less features. What does "focus more on gamers" even mean? Microsoft is a massive company having some of their resources focus on media features doesn't take away from "gamers". People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. What is being taken away? What is missing? All I hear is bitching with no reasons.


What's being taken away? MS is trying to destroy both the rental and used game industries. Not only that, they're destroying the main gaming purpose of console games; to be able to play offline.


Completely agree. The quality of games should always be the number one priority for any console made.

OK. But why would having media features take away from the quality of games?

Because in product design you have limited time and resources, so you need to pick your priorities and allocate the most money and expertise for those things. If they're giving it a big marketing push, then it's a top priority and they've got valuable resources dedicated to making sure it turns out well, and those valuable resources could be used elsewhere.

What do you think they didn't spend enough time with? What "for gamers" features are you missing out on?

Every project in every company ever runs out of time. There are always going to be sacrifices made. So something is getting less attention because of the heavy focus on something else. In this case, it appears to be the media center aspect and Kinect.
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 22 2013 04:44 GMT
#1135
On May 22 2013 13:36 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 13:30 heliusx wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:21 Jibba wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:18 heliusx wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:11 kmillz wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
This is just God awful and makes me lose my faith in consoles.

Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says. I'll never really understand the train of thought people have wanting less features. What does "focus more on gamers" even mean? Microsoft is a massive company having some of their resources focus on media features doesn't take away from "gamers". People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. What is being taken away? What is missing? All I hear is bitching with no reasons.


What's being taken away? MS is trying to destroy both the rental and used game industries. Not only that, they're destroying the main gaming purpose of console games; to be able to play offline.


Completely agree. The quality of games should always be the number one priority for any console made.

OK. But why would having media features take away from the quality of games?

Because in product design you have limited time and resources, so you need to pick your priorities and allocate the most money and expertise for those things. If they're giving it a big marketing push, then it's a top priority and they've got valuable resources dedicated to making sure it turns out well, and those valuable resources could be used elsewhere.

What do you think they didn't spend enough time with? What "for gamers" features are you missing out on?

Every project in every company ever runs out of time. There are always going to be sacrifices made. So something is getting less attention because of the heavy focus on something else. In this case, it appears to be the media center aspect and Kinect.


Yes, I understand time restrictions even apply to massive companies like Microsoft. But... are we angry because something may have gotten less attention or is there a specific feature or aspect that you have in mind? I want to know what you guys who complain about less attention to games think is missing or neglected.
dude bro.
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 04:47:55
May 22 2013 04:47 GMT
#1136
You know, honestly, I still feel that Xbox 720 is still a pretty good name. Marketing is already done. Xbox one just sounds lame.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 04:52:13
May 22 2013 04:49 GMT
#1137
You'll have to be hands on with the system to see what choices they made. I'm sure the HDD will be a sore spot for some people. Or the new Kinect might be undesired (yet still costly to include.)

It's certainly possible that it can do all the gamer things just as well as the PS4 can. I'm just saying that any design choice is taking away from something else, and in this case they seem to have put a relatively larger emphasis on the home media stuff compared to Sony.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 04:51:40
May 22 2013 04:50 GMT
#1138
On May 22 2013 13:47 woody60707 wrote:
You know, honestly, I still feel that Xbox 720 is still a pretty good name. Marketing is already done. Xbox one just sounds lame.

They could never do Xbox 720 because of 720p. It was never a realistic option, too confusing for parents buying it for their kids.

The number 360 is associated with other things like 360 degrees. 720 is primarily associated with screen resolution.
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 22 2013 04:50 GMT
#1139
On May 22 2013 13:32 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 13:18 heliusx wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:11 kmillz wrote:
On May 22 2013 13:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
This is just God awful and makes me lose my faith in consoles.

Everyone I know use their 360s as a media center. I'm positive the decision to expand those features are statistic based and not based on what "everyone" says. I'll never really understand the train of thought people have wanting less features. What does "focus more on gamers" even mean? Microsoft is a massive company having some of their resources focus on media features doesn't take away from "gamers". People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. What is being taken away? What is missing? All I hear is bitching with no reasons.


What's being taken away? MS is trying to destroy both the rental and used game industries. Not only that, they're destroying the main gaming purpose of console games; to be able to play offline.


Completely agree. The quality of games should always be the number one priority for any console made.

OK. But why would having media features take away from the quality of games?


But why force stuff on people they that'll cost extra money they don't need/want or can't even use. The entertainment part of the Xbox is just unneccesary . Offer it as optional stuff you can pay for if you like but don't make it essentially what your selling your system with.

I don't think it's that bad, we get a lot of entertainment stuff in the US and UK that most wont be able to use but that's their main selling demographic. I know how you feel though because I don't want a kinect. =/
dude bro.
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
May 22 2013 04:51 GMT
#1140
Ad on Twitch for Call of Duty: Ghost says 11.5.13

Did they fuck up and give a release date for Xbox uno?
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