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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On June 11 2013 20:33 s3rp wrote: I just read something regarding Killer Instince . "Killer Instinct is a day-one digital-only release on Xbox One, and features -- get this -- one character. Jago is free to play on launch day. Everyone else -- unspecified returning characters as well as original fighters -- will cost money. Price is to-be-determined (of course). " http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/killer-instinct-is-a-fun-free-to-play-xbox-one-launch-game LMAO! I was glad that Killer Instinct was resurrected but, holy shit is that bad. | ||
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
On June 11 2013 21:46 Qatura wrote: i love how some people are crying about paying a little money to play online. If you can afford a 500 dollar/euro console, u can also afford the subscription. I completely understand that there are high costs for microsoft and sony for hosting the servers etc. The only thing is, with PS Plus you get so many extra things. When looking to XBox-live u're not getting that much at-all, just being able to play online, and you get a shitstorm of adds... As a PC gamer I find it pretty annoying, but seeing as you've got zero choice if you want to go online with a console (it's the same price for PS4 and XBO), there's no real point whining about it. You don't have to play online after all (although I would like to be able to play Halo with my brothers). | ||
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
On June 11 2013 22:28 Stratos_speAr wrote: This kind of complacency is just sad. It isn't about cost, it's about principle. Previously, and with Nintendo and the PC now, multiplayer wasn't an extra feature that you had to pay for; it was and is a feature that is part of the game that you pay a large chunk of money for, and so you should be able to play it without paying additional costs. But back then, multiplayer was something you did with your buddies over at your house in split-screen mode. Spoiler alert: You can still do that. Also, I'm not sure about XBox One (because it hasn't been detailed yet), but you get a metric fuckton of extra stuff with XBox Live Gold on XBox 360, so I wouldn't be surprised for this also to be the case on XBox One. | ||
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LightRain
36 Posts
Xbox One made every single possible mistake and could not have killed itself more thoroughly. I could go on forever, but after last night, I just want to ask a few things: 1. Why in the world would you PRICE it at $500?!?! After your focus on TV & entertainment, your new target audience was the AVERAGE household who was looking for a comprehensive entertainment system. What does the XBox now offer that you can't already have with your existing cable box and a PS4??? A ridiculous reliance on the internet??? Did you not learn that you beat the PS4 on PRICE, and therefore won the last war? 2. Who in the world designed your used game policy and 24-hour-online policy?! Sony?! I've never heard of such ridiculous policies in my life. 3. Microsoft, you have good goals (kind of). You're dreaming of the future. But this is just another Tablet PC reboot - the world is not interested, and not ready for this kind of system yet. Not even the top 5% of the world has a truly stable internet connection - I live in a huge city, have a strong salary and life, but sometimes my internet cuts out from time to time. Your system should EXPAND people's lives, not RESTRICT. You've built a console for the future, that no one in the present can actually live with. Fools, fools, fools. You've just killed off your last best product. I hope that you have the balls to question who made these horrible decisions, and fire all those people. Likely, they are the old fogeys who are high upon the chain. Get this into your heads. The older generation does NOT understand this one - get the YOUNGER people to design your system. In the tech world, age does NOT equate to wisdom - it changes too fast for that. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On June 11 2013 22:28 Stratos_speAr wrote: This kind of complacency is just sad. It isn't about cost, it's about principle. Previously, and with Nintendo and the PC now, multiplayer wasn't an extra feature that you had to pay for; it was and is a feature that is part of the game that you pay a large chunk of money for, and so you should be able to play it without paying additional costs. Sony made a smart decision for once. They capitalize on Microsoft horrendous policy. 1. Can play Used Game 2. No DRM 3. Region Free 4. Cheaper Price 5. Better Hardware Spec Processing. So Sony decided to implement PS+ in order for you to play online. Same principle with XBOX Gold. Though the money you put in PS+ is worth it( I could even argued the feature they give us is better than XBOX Gold) http://us.playstation.com/psn/playstation-plus/ As it stands, Sony just totally killed off Microsoft during the conference. They just emphasize a lot on the consumer rights stuff. Whereas Microsoft just kept silent and just swept it under the rug. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On June 11 2013 22:28 Stratos_speAr wrote: This kind of complacency is just sad. It isn't about cost, it's about principle. Previously, and with Nintendo and the PC now, multiplayer wasn't an extra feature that you had to pay for; it was and is a feature that is part of the game that you pay a large chunk of money for, and so you should be able to play it without paying additional costs. You also get access to Hulu and Netflix and get access to games that are at times double and triple and quadruple the cost of the fee. $4.15 a month. That's what it costs to get access to games like Dont Starve ($15) and all that matchmaking shit. I don't see the issue, honestly. Yeah I wish it was free too. It's not the end of the world. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On June 11 2013 23:38 Fruscainte wrote: You also get access to Hulu and Netflix and get access to games that are at times double and triple and quadruple the cost of the fee. $4.15 a month. That's what it costs to get access to games like Dont Starve ($15) and all that matchmaking shit. I don't see the issue, honestly. Yeah I wish it was free too. It's not the end of the world. Don't get me wrong; PS+ is a great service (although I can already access Hulu/Netflix for free on my PS3). However, it's still the principle of having to pay for a core feature of the game when I've already paid for the game. | ||
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takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
It will most likely work and all of this Xbone lost the war stuff will look even more dumb after release. Again, neither will die, they will both do fine. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
Oh well, I'm not a big stream anyway. I'm not sure I'll buy a next gen, but if I do, it's going to be PS4. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On June 12 2013 00:13 takingbackoj wrote: Despite what the over dramatic gamer crowd wants to believe, the truth is, Xbox will be fine. PS4 did a much better job of focusing on the gamer crowd, but Xbox one's target isn't the people who watched E3. They have focused on people who will see the applications of Xbox outside of gaming and say "man, those features are pretty cool and I can play some games on it." They have decided, it seems, to play the middle ground between PS4 and WiiU and trying to attract a broader audience while unlike Nintendo, also still putting out quality games and intergrating their extra features into the everyday entertainment of most people. It will most likely work and all of this Xbone lost the war stuff will look even more dumb after release. Again, neither will die, they will both do fine. Yeah, consoles never flop, especially when popular companies release them... OH WAIT : Dreamcast Vita Virtual Boy Jaguar Atari 5200/7800 CD-i N-Gage Sega 32X And other smaller ones Nope, never happened to any big companies. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On June 12 2013 00:13 takingbackoj wrote: Despite what the over dramatic gamer crowd wants to believe, the truth is, Xbox will be fine. PS4 did a much better job of focusing on the gamer crowd, but Xbox one's target isn't the people who watched E3. They have focused on people who will see the applications of Xbox outside of gaming and say "man, those features are pretty cool and I can play some games on it." They have decided, it seems, to play the middle ground between PS4 and WiiU and trying to attract a broader audience while unlike Nintendo, also still putting out quality games and intergrating their extra features into the everyday entertainment of most people. It will most likely work and all of this Xbone lost the war stuff will look even more dumb after release. Again, neither will die, they will both do fine. Overly optimistic. The $100 difference will be a huge factor in driving away the average, clueless consumer. Not only that, the clueless consumer operates by reading one or two articles on the subject or hearing things via word-of-mouth (talking to their "gamer" friends). The articles that the average consumer will read WILL remember E3 and all of these problems and will definitely push some people away, and the average "gamer" friend that has even the slightest clue about how these systems operate will (unless he's a hardcore MS fanboy) turn plenty of average consumers away as well. This kind of beatdown on such a massive stage won't go away, no matter how hard people wish it will. | ||
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takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
On June 12 2013 00:20 Kurr wrote: Yeah, consoles never flop, especially when popular companies release them... OH WAIT : Dreamcast Vita Virtual Boy Jaguar Atari 5200/7800 CD-i N-Gage Sega 32X And other smaller ones Nope, never happened to any big companies. Big companies? Haha, none of those companies are even remotely comparable to MS. And you should go find out why exactly those systems flopped. I'll give you a hint, it had nothing to to with any of the issues Xbox One has. Really bad analogy. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
Seriously, whenever I see someone defend the Xbox One I just automatically assume they are being paid by Microsoft now. It's an undefendable product. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On June 12 2013 00:24 takingbackoj wrote: Big companies? Haha, none of those companies are even remotely comparable to MS. And you should go find out why exactly those systems flopped. I'll give you a hint, it had nothing to to with any of the issues Xbox One has. Really bad analogy. Sega was very well-known in the console community back in the day. MS's clout comes from its OS dominance, especially since the XBox has consistently flopped outside of the U.S. Even if the issues are the same, those examples show that big companies are hardly invincible, and mindless faith in the XBox thriving is pretty naive. | ||
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Gescom
Canada3505 Posts
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On June 12 2013 00:34 Kurr wrote: Yeah, not like Sega and Atari were main competitors in the console market when those were released. Nintendo and Sony? Trash. Seriously, whenever I see someone defend the Xbox One I just automatically assume they are being paid by Microsoft now. It's an undefendable product. Sony wouldn't even be in the console market is they and Nintendo didn't have a major fallout . Can you imagine how vastly different things would look if Sony and Nintendo would still be working hand in hand. | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
Sounds like a fair deal to me. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On June 12 2013 00:39 Gescom wrote: Those examples are all from 15+ years ago. It's a different ballgame now. MS can just throw money at the problem. And then they'll look at all of the money that they've lost. The XBox won't die like Sega did after the Dreamcast, but if MS wants to stay in the console market, then MS will be forced to change some business practices when the XB1 tanks. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On June 12 2013 00:39 Gescom wrote: Those examples are all from 15+ years ago. It's a different ballgame now. MS can just throw money at the problem. No, no they really can't. You can try to defend it and say the post has no relevancy but it does. You simply said the console will not die out, he showed a perfect set of examples of consoles that died. America is the only place that the xbox has sold units, and now you're alienating that crowd. It never sells in areas like Japan and China. But by placing a bigger price tag on it than the superior ps4 in a time when honestly a lot of people still dont have a lot of extra money then you're walking along the edge of console life. | ||
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