On April 28 2013 19:48 DystopiaX wrote: It's not terrible but it's really basic. Similar to Denver's halfcourt offense in that respect. I do think that they're getting much more mileage out of that offense than they should though, for exactly the same reasons you said. I think Brooks is a really overrated/bad coach who looks a lot better than he is because of his roster.
Yea this is true. They are playing with very bad systems (if any) both in offense and defense, and Brooks can't seem to be able to coach Westbrook correctly which is a shame for him because its holding him back imo.
On April 28 2013 19:37 Jibba wrote: OKC fans can't be thrilled that Durant had to play 47 minutes for that win, after that halftime lead. Westbrook's sometimes questionable decision making aside, I don't think Durant is really comfortable taking that many shots, which is why you need Westbrook to take some of the slack. You just need to convince him he's their #2, and not both #1s. There were times that the Rockets had Lin covering Durant, and he'd pass to Sef instead of abusing that matchup. Not good.
More than that, I think it highlights how OKC's offense is so so over-reliant on athleticism, and is actually kind of terrible. They have 3+ fantastic pieces that pull defenses apart and can make difficult shots, but they don't know how to manufacture points and they can't get KMart the open looks they should.
Yep. I've always thought this about OKC, and even though people hate on Westbrook so much (including me), he's an integral part of that team and Brooks relies on him and Durant too much.
Does OKC have enough offense without Westbrook? Nowadays, great coaches with good players can shut down a team's offense if there's only one primary offensive weapon. Who else is going to score.. Ibaka and Martin?
On April 29 2013 02:03 Gentso wrote: Does OKC have enough offense without Westbrook? Nowadays, great coaches with good players can shut down a team's offense if there's only one primary offensive weapon. Who else is going to score.. Ibaka and Martin?
Yea they are pretty fucked without Westbrook. Eventho he makes a lot of bad decisions, atleast he attacks the rim pretty often and puts a lot of pressure on the D. And without good systems, they have to rely on Durant to do everything.
On April 29 2013 02:03 Gentso wrote: Does OKC have enough offense without Westbrook? Nowadays, great coaches with good players can shut down a team's offense if there's only one primary offensive weapon. Who else is going to score.. Ibaka and Martin?
Westbrook is horrible at defense, they are much better without him in both end of the floor.
On April 29 2013 02:03 Gentso wrote: Does OKC have enough offense without Westbrook? Nowadays, great coaches with good players can shut down a team's offense if there's only one primary offensive weapon. Who else is going to score.. Ibaka and Martin?
Westbrook is horrible at defense, they are much better without him in both end of the floor.
Yea he is not the smartest player out there on defense, but he is so athletically gifted that is makes for some of it, especially against mediocre point guards like Lin. Of course, PGs like tony parker will still abuse him. On the other hand, I don't think that Fisher or Jackson are much better than him at defending (not at all speaking of Fisher). And you have to be crazy to think they are better on offense without him.
On April 29 2013 03:06 rei wrote: i rather have KD jack up 40 shots a game than Westbrook charges in there and turns it over half the time.
Playing Durant 47min per game is not ideal by any mean, and even him goes cold from time to time. Plus, as noted by someone before, a one-man offense can be stopped by a good defense. You have to have atleast a 2-man punch imo.
OKC's offensive system is close to non-existent. It's a throwback to mid-90s to mid-2000s iso offenses.
Westbrook is not the smartest defender out there, but he is still a pretty good on-ball defender. Harden is more dynamic on offense but his defense is just terrible.
People neglect the the fact that Westbrook being so unrelenting on offense and drawing so many fouls balances out his inconsistent defense for the most part. Getting opposing guard in foul trouble and forcing them to deal with his aggression certainly affects their play on the other end.
OKC is building their team to do one thing and one thing only, they are trying to beat Miami, they will make it to the final without westbrook, and will do better than last year without westbrook, they can't get it done with a time bomb like westbrook on both end of the floor. Should trade him for CP3, that would put them over miami for sure.
On April 29 2013 04:29 rei wrote: OKC is building their team to do one thing and one thing only, they are trying to beat Miami, they will make it to the final without westbrook, and will do better than last year without westbrook, they can't get it done with a time bomb like westbrook on both end of the floor. Should trade him for CP3, that would put them over miami for sure.
On April 29 2013 04:29 rei wrote: OKC is building their team to do one thing and one thing only, they are trying to beat Miami, they will make it to the final without westbrook, and will do better than last year without westbrook, they can't get it done with a time bomb like westbrook on both end of the floor. Should trade him for CP3, that would put them over miami for sure.
On April 29 2013 04:29 rei wrote: OKC is building their team to do one thing and one thing only, they are trying to beat Miami, they will make it to the final without westbrook, and will do better than last year without westbrook, they can't get it done with a time bomb like westbrook on both end of the floor. Should trade him for CP3, that would put them over miami for sure.
On April 29 2013 04:29 rei wrote: OKC is building their team to do one thing and one thing only, they are trying to beat Miami, they will make it to the final without westbrook, and will do better than last year without westbrook, they can't get it done with a time bomb like westbrook on both end of the floor. Should trade him for CP3, that would put them over miami for sure.
This is utterly ridiculous. For starters, OKC out of all the semi-contenders in the West probably match up the worst with Miami because they lack an inside scoring presence which is one of the few weakness' of the Heat. If they are building to beat the heat then they are doing it wrong. Aside from that, its delusional to think OKC actually got better with the injury to Westbrook. He is a great offensive player that puts a ton of pressure on opposing defenses and he can be an energetic albeit sometimes boneheaded defender.
OKC will likely lose in the next round to either the Clippers or the Grizzlies without Westbrook and most certainly will lose to the Spurs in the WCF. The Spurs seem to be getting their mojo back after their end of season funk against a completely overmatched Lakers squad that has been ravaged by injuries to complement the cluelessness of their coach. If Tony Parker continues to recuperate and Manu can continue his current form for the remainder of the post season then I don't see anyone in the west beating them now that Westbrook is out. Interestingly enough, I think the Spurs will also give Miami a more competitive series then OKC would have simply because of match-ups.
On April 29 2013 04:29 rei wrote: OKC is building their team to do one thing and one thing only, they are trying to beat Miami, they will make it to the final without westbrook, and will do better than last year without westbrook, they can't get it done with a time bomb like westbrook on both end of the floor. Should trade him for CP3, that would put them over miami for sure.
Nah, why not trade him for Lebron.
3 team trade, Ibaka and Perkins for D12 and Marc Gasol.
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