Wildstar MMO - Page 4

On May 16 2013 14:42 Infernal_dream wrote:


And you know this how? Considering the game isn't even in beta yet that's a rather large claim to make.

On May 16 2013 14:46 Disengaged wrote:


Maybe because its in the news on their site talking about raids and such?

And also its in Closed Beta.

On May 16 2013 15:20 Infernal_dream wrote:


Saying it and having it are two different things. Just because raids exist don't mean they are good. IE SWOTOR when it came out.

On May 16 2013 16:09 Disengaged wrote:


I didn't say Wildstar's end game will be good just that they will have end game unlike GW 2 so don't put words in my mouth.

On May 25 2013 11:05 Infernal_dream wrote:


GW2 had an endgame, it was just bad. Having a bad end game is the same as not having one. Making something that's shitty just so you can say it exists is not the same as having a true endgame. Anyone can make dungeons/raids/pvp and sets of gear. Doesn't mean that you actually progress or that the content takes effort to get through.

On May 25 2013 15:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


GW2 had no endgame as far as raids go. It had BGs/PvP/WorldBosses/5mans just like every other MMO has and will have but it had no raids.

I can't think of a single successful MMO with successful endgame content that doesn't have "raids" or something like them. "Endgame content" is typically associated with "raids" as a loosely fitting synonym.

When he said "except it will have endgame", it makes a lot more sense if you just accept that he was basically saying "except it will have raids".

On May 25 2013 15:54 Wegandi wrote:


FFXI never really had 'raids'. I never got the appeal of raids myself. I'd much rather fight extremely difficult, epic, and long-endurance monsters (bosses). Fighting Bahamut, Kirin, or any of the other NM's is much more exciting than killing a bunch of trash mobs to get to the one boss. Also, I must say, that for many so-called story driven MMO's they're certainly pretty terrible (no cutscenes, easy advancement, little reward, etc.).

The one thing I enjoyed about FFXI is that the story led you to the end-game material (Sea, Sky, etc.) and provided amazing items in the process and it wasn't hand-fed to you. End-game content should be advancement of your character either through stat-enhancements, additional skills, better equipment, new areas, etc. I never really understood why the story has to end when you're max level either...FFXI did a lot of things right that newer MMO's who just parrot WoW are really missing and it is hurting their player bases. There's a reason newer MMO's have a huge problem with player retention.

On May 25 2013 16:12 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


Where were those bosses located? In an instance or in the world?

Trash mobs aren't a prerequisite for a raid.

On May 25 2013 19:19 solsken wrote:
What you leave out is the ungodly amount of hours spent farming pop items in FFXI for said fights, or the ungodly amount of hours spent waiting for a spawn at the HNM camps. But you are correct, FFXI did alot of things right for hardcore players, however the more casual players are the ones catered to these days because that's where the money is.

On June 05 2013 00:50 NukeD wrote:
From that video i get the impression that player houses themselves are not so much a part of the world as they are just a separate instance that requires a loading screen every time you come/leave.

Hopefully im wrong but if thats trully the case then they might aswell not have housing cos that kind of implementation is very lame and shows yet another MMO dev who "just doesnt get it". Surprise surprise...