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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3272 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-15 18:48:20
December 15 2020 18:45 GMT
#781
On December 16 2020 02:48 PassiveAce wrote:
i mean there was a ton of pressure to release from fans and im sure from investors lol

I 100% get that it was highly anticipated and that releasing before Christmas is going to boost their sales a lot. CDPR also isn't alone in spreading PR bullshit in these meetings, a significant part of a manager's job is to create a good public image, so you'll commonly see managers dance around unpleasant questions and use a ton of euphemisms instead of addressing problems.

But that it's commonplace doesn't make it less of a waste of everyone's time.
low gravity, yes-yes!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
December 15 2020 21:54 GMT
#782
On December 16 2020 03:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
MS is also refusing refunds as well.


If this teaches some people to not preorder, lesson well learned.

Also CDPR announces that fix is incoming and that refunds are fine with them. So get the refusal from either SONY or MS and then ask CDPR to refund and let them handle the account/game business.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
December 15 2020 23:11 GMT
#783
Just found the Skippy weapon. Def using this throughout the rest of the game.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17833 Posts
December 16 2020 02:22 GMT
#784
On December 16 2020 02:51 Latham wrote:
Heard that even though CDPR wants to give out refunds on all platforms, Sony is adamant about NOT giving out any refunds on the PS4 or the PS5... can they even do that? Force the no-refunds policy when they had nothing to do with the actual development of the game? It just runs on their consoles...


Why I agree they should allow refunds I also understand Sony's position in this. After all it's not their fault that the game is not working and if you pre-ordered it without knowing if it works or purchased it after news about it having serious issues came out you're the one who made the mistake.

What this situation (and what's happening to VTMB2 now) should teach us is that:
a) pre-ordering is bad
b) AAA game developers constantly release buggy shit and want you to pay premium for it

I guess I'll be sticking with more indie games from now on. I've bought a few this last year and was happy with them whereas big titles were rather disappointing.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia981 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-16 04:49:11
December 16 2020 04:43 GMT
#785
There's some bullshit going on with crafting.

Example: I made an Ashura sniper rifle at around lvl 22. Initially there was no option to upgrade it - a level cap. I can upgrade it once every time I level up, with increased cost each time.
Now, 10 levels later, I made the same kind of rifle, at a cost of 1 legendary component. I could only upgrade it once(level cap again - a different level cap), however, its current stats were very close to the one I originally had. Except the next upgrade is 6 times cheaper.

In other words, freshly crafted item parameters scale depending on your level at the time.
Upgrading increases the parameters by one level, but the cost keeps growing.
After but a few upgrades, it becomes much cheaper to just remake the weapon. It is pretty ridiculous.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7363 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-16 07:45:20
December 16 2020 07:44 GMT
#786
The problem with refund is that the people played way more than for example the 2 hours that steam offers. I read multiple accounts of people having finished the game and then wanted to refund under the "game is unplayable" rule. If the game is really "unplayable" , refund should not be a problem on any plattform.

On December 16 2020 08:11 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Just found the Skippy weapon. Def using this throughout the rest of the game.


Which one is that? Picture please :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7755 Posts
December 16 2020 10:32 GMT
#787
How is the game on PC? I'm considering buying it but if it's still super bugged I can wait till they fix stuff.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
December 16 2020 10:59 GMT
#788
Your mileage will vary. For me, the bugs are small. I occasionally get graphical glitches but easily ignorable. It's crashed for me maybe two or three times in the last week max. I've yet to come across a bug that has a significant impact on my gameplay, where I've had to reload a quest or whatever.

That said, if you're not in rush to play, it might be worth waiting for a couple patches to come and fix/improve the game itself before buying.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13017 Posts
December 16 2020 11:02 GMT
#789
I have the weirdest bug on XBox series X (so xbox one version but slightly better): when I drive my motocycle and then go back to walking, the char is super slow as well as the aim, and I can't even run anymore. It seems like opening up the menu 2 times (because the first time somehow tries to open it but fails) solve the issue. Anyone else experiencing this?
WriterMaru
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9590 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-16 13:18:59
December 16 2020 11:29 GMT
#790
On PC there is a legion of small bugs that will either make you laugh or break your immersion. Nothing game-breaking like bugged main quests or any crashes for me so far, but yeah...

Anyone (kinda) stupid enough to spend money on cars yet? I used the debugger console and gave myself every car and I've found a few that actually control well, in comparison to the soap boxes on ice that you otherwise get access to...
So far my favourite has to be the Quadra Type 66 "Javelina", looks cool and offroad (not very futuristic or slick) but controls actually decently, for a change. 73K cost in South-West part of the map.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-16 12:05:34
December 16 2020 12:05 GMT
#791
I'm saving up to buy the Caliburn because it looks cool. How does it drive compared to the Javelina? I've also read good things about the Coyote.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7363 Posts
December 16 2020 12:05 GMT
#792
On December 16 2020 19:32 PoulsenB wrote:
How is the game on PC? I'm considering buying it but if it's still super bugged I can wait till they fix stuff.


Depends very much on you:
- Yes it is still bugged and it will be for quite some time (I expect at leat until patch #2 in February hits).
- Bugs are from annoying to laughable, nothing game breaking. Quicksaving from time to time is recommended
- FPS and graphic problems in general are almost solved and probably will be with the next patch in a few days
- You can get a loooot of mileage out of this if that is your thing. Huge world, something to see or find or kill around every second corner. Some amazing and funny side quests. Easy 100+ hours
- You can also follow the main story and be done in 20 hours.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
December 16 2020 12:19 GMT
#793
I'm at about 30 hours and I easily have another 100 worth of stuff to do, so much room for activities!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-16 12:21:17
December 16 2020 12:20 GMT
#794
I can understand the way that most first reviews were positive about the story. The first time you play the game, it's a great experience. The story is great, and quests and objectives look as though they have multiple branching options.

But when you start prying underneath, or replay the game a second time, you start to recognise that it's actually a lot more linear than it appears. The biggest variety is whether you approach quests with stealth or hacking or with gunplay and with which guns. Beyond that the vast majority of quests have the same beginning and the same end. The only significant exception I've found so far is + Show Spoiler +
when you get the bot from the Maelstroms
where the quest genuinely has vastly different outcomes depending on how you approach it.

The main story is great so far, and I'm definitely getting my money's worth; it just doesn't live up to the RPG that many hoped for and CDPR promised.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9590 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-16 13:03:43
December 16 2020 12:28 GMT
#795
On December 16 2020 21:05 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm saving up to buy the Caliburn because it looks cool. How does it drive compared to the Javelina? I've also read good things about the Coyote.


You can get 2 different models of the Caliburn, 1 jet black and 1 White/Gold with red finishes, but they're pretty much the exact same car control-wise. Actually scratch that, the black one has better control and maybe 10 more KM/H at the very end. In a straight line, it's SUPER smooth going from 0 to 200 in record times. Pretty prone to spiraling out of control and just doing doughnuts on the road if you swerve too quickly at top speeds to overtake another vehicle or try to make a sharp turn.
But there is a way to rear it in. Basically it has excellent acceleration AND deceleration, so before the bends and turns you gotta press S to brake and slow down, make the turn and then accelerate again, back to 200.
You can do city races in this car just fine with a bit of control and finesse but do NOT try the races outside town/ in the desert. 1 little pebble will send you off to the moon in a constant front flip fashion.

White/Gold version is more prone to losing control even on soft bends, not to mention T-junctions or 180 turns.

Shion "Coyote" also has 2 version, 1 Blue, 1 Red. The Blue controls SUPERBLY. You won't be making tuns at 200 KM/H, but at 160KM/H? Yes! The recovery after swerving too hard is also top-notch, the ass-end doesn't fly to the sides like water in a barrel. Good traction for offroad races in the desert as well! After hitting a rock you can recover instead of letting Jesus take the wheel like in Caliburn's case.
The Red version has slightly worse traction than the blue one, but still miles ahead of the other 95% of the cars you can get. Recovery is more difficult but still very doable. Takes T-junctions, intersections, 180-turns and bends just fine.

Shion MZ2 is slightly worse when compared to the Coyotes. It's much more of a city car than an all-terrain one, has got lower speeds, worse off-road capabilities, but in a city it takes T-bends, junctions and 180 turns very well. A bit prone to jiggling the ass on all of the turns, but recovery is very quick and possible.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7755 Posts
December 16 2020 12:58 GMT
#796
Thanks for replies guys, I'll probably wait some more time before buying,
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
December 16 2020 13:45 GMT
#797
On December 16 2020 21:28 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2020 21:05 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm saving up to buy the Caliburn because it looks cool. How does it drive compared to the Javelina? I've also read good things about the Coyote.


You can get 2 different models of the Caliburn, 1 jet black and 1 White/Gold with red finishes, but they're pretty much the exact same car control-wise. Actually scratch that, the black one has better control and maybe 10 more KM/H at the very end. In a straight line, it's SUPER smooth going from 0 to 200 in record times. Pretty prone to spiraling out of control and just doing doughnuts on the road if you swerve too quickly at top speeds to overtake another vehicle or try to make a sharp turn.
But there is a way to rear it in. Basically it has excellent acceleration AND deceleration, so before the bends and turns you gotta press S to brake and slow down, make the turn and then accelerate again, back to 200.
You can do city races in this car just fine with a bit of control and finesse but do NOT try the races outside town/ in the desert. 1 little pebble will send you off to the moon in a constant front flip fashion.

White/Gold version is more prone to losing control even on soft bends, not to mention T-junctions or 180 turns.

Shion "Coyote" also has 2 version, 1 Blue, 1 Red. The Blue controls SUPERBLY. You won't be making tuns at 200 KM/H, but at 160KM/H? Yes! The recovery after swerving too hard is also top-notch, the ass-end doesn't fly to the sides like water in a barrel. Good traction for offroad races in the desert as well! After hitting a rock you can recover instead of letting Jesus take the wheel like in Caliburn's case.
The Red version has slightly worse traction than the blue one, but still miles ahead of the other 95% of the cars you can get. Recovery is more difficult but still very doable. Takes T-junctions, intersections, 180-turns and bends just fine.

Shion MZ2 is slightly worse when compared to the Coyotes. It's much more of a city car than an all-terrain one, has got lower speeds, worse off-road capabilities, but in a city it takes T-bends, junctions and 180 turns very well. A bit prone to jiggling the ass on all of the turns, but recovery is very quick and possible.

How long did you spend testing each and every car to be able to write this up lol

Thanks, I'll probably still go for the Caliburn for fun but I'll buy the Coyotes next.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 16 2020 14:19 GMT
#798
Which one is the akira bike?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-16 15:00:34
December 16 2020 14:21 GMT
#799
On December 16 2020 08:11 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Just found the Skippy weapon. Def using this throughout the rest of the game.

Skippy seems like the best weapon by far lol. It also doesnt cost many perks points in handguns to get a lot of extra damage out of it. I pity anyone who picked the limb targeting option

I wonder if you can get the "scales to your level" mod if you disassemble skippy with the perk that lets you keep mods.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
December 16 2020 14:31 GMT
#800
On December 14 2020 04:19 Firebolt145 wrote:
Uh, what does 'E' do? Apparently it's 'Cyberware Systems' - is this something I just have yet to activate?


I just got an operating system called "Moore Tech Berserk mk2" which activates Berserk mode when holding E.
Absolutely no clue where I got it from.
It replaces the cyberdeck so you can't hack anymore when it's equipped, but gives some strong combat benefits.
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