EPTThis writer is very positive about what he saw so far. He came in expecting TW3 with a reskin, and got anything but that. It details the combat and gameplay more than other previews, and how quests can progress. Apparently a much greater emphasis on choice and consequence, and a more natural dialogue system compared to TW3. Guy was impressed with the first person combat.
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
This writer is very positive about what he saw so far. He came in expecting TW3 with a reskin, and got anything but that. It details the combat and gameplay more than other previews, and how quests can progress. Apparently a much greater emphasis on choice and consequence, and a more natural dialogue system compared to TW3. Guy was impressed with the first person combat. | ||
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calh
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
On June 13 2018 10:14 calh wrote: TBH I like the old teaser a lot more, if only because it was unabashedly moralistic. While I don't mind the choice in aesthetics, the pacing of the new trailer gives me the feeling that it's more about being fun and cool. Personally I believe cyberpunk or any sci-fi should always carry some philosophical musing or social commentary, so I hope this won't turn out to be a futuristic Bethesda or GTA game. Still I've never played any of the Witcher games, so looking forward to it. Well, the original PnP CP2020 was pretty heavy into corporationism, cyborgization and mass culture. I believe that the first two were done plenty of times before (Deus Ex, Shadowrun) but the last part: the mass culture, media and just general lifestyle of everyday people in ad-bombarded society was not. This is where I believe the game could shine, focusing more on the spiritual aspects, fashion and society's soul in general. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
That trailer looked like it fell out of the 1990s comic books and lacked mohawks. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On June 13 2018 11:01 Plansix wrote: The old trailer was also filled with the worst of cyberpunk trash, hot sexy cyborg lady who’d might murder you, but might also bang you, who knows? Look at all that gray area, in the night, in the pouring rain, with all this black body armor. That trailer looked like it fell out of the 1990s comic books and lacked mohawks. I mean, that's basically what the "punk" half of the genre term means. It's the seedy underbelly or rebellious undertones of a universe. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
I cannot express just how happy I am to see so much color in a cyberpunk game. Finally! Thematically you can achieve so much more contrast with a palette that is filled with all shades of color in addition to the bleak, dystopian colors we've all come to expect. I love that CDPR is taking a different approach with first person and not just following the model of the Witcher 3. | ||
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Grettin
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calh
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
On June 13 2018 15:29 calh wrote: The image above just made me realize the Kerrigan influence on that character design. Actually, what this is is BigRipp cyberweapon, as described (and depicted but in a bit different loadout) in Chrome Book 4 for CP2020 (released in 1996). | ||
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Zephyp
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10679 Posts
Witcher 2 is cool but the combat system is pretty bad. Witcher 3 is awesome and there is even a new patch that improves the allready "ok" combat in like every aspect. | ||
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Zephyp
238 Posts
On June 13 2018 23:24 ZenithM wrote: Imo you shouldn't bother with the first two Witcher games if you've read the books. TW3 is just a much better game. Hmmm. I understand that TW3 is the best, but how much do I miss from what happens in TW1 and 2 if I don't play them? I think I'll at least give them a try to see how it works out. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 14 2018 01:16 Zephyp wrote: Hmmm. I understand that TW3 is the best, but how much do I miss from what happens in TW1 and 2 if I don't play them? I think I'll at least give them a try to see how it works out. You can read a wiki or just catch up. The stories are good fine, but you will get burned out on the series before you reach 3. Those first two games have some of the worst onboarding and tutorials I have seen in all my time playing RPGs. And the balance curve is not great. I love CDPR, but their UI and combat design have to be the weakest part of their games and the part you end up spending an unreasonable amount of time with. One day I will tell the man who is obsessed with candles and have every letter in my inventory exactly what I think of his design decisions. But only in person. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9606 Posts
TW2 has an amazing story, replayability due to branching paths and just the right amount of detail and world building. | ||
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
i will say the delay is getting into the KH3 threshold of when will this game come out? along the likes of the mythical GTA6. hope it comes out soon. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
On June 14 2018 05:54 Plansix wrote: There is such a thing as a game that does not fit into your life. There are plenty of games I think I would enjoy that I do not have the time for. If someone gets W3 and suddenly realizing they ever finish due to life, that could be a negative for them. These are not objective metrics we are talking about there. You're correct, but no one really thinks of that as an objective metric as you say, mobas like dota itself would be invalidated as a whole. the completion of these games don't require anywhere near the amount of time invested to get good at say sc, sc2, dota, online competitive franchises in general. so I don't see the metric even being an argument. witcher 3 is the exception to the rule and is basically the new standard. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 14 2018 06:29 saocyn wrote: You're correct, but no one really thinks of that as an objective metric as you say, mobas like dota itself would be invalidated as a whole. the completion of these games don't require anywhere near the amount of time invested to get good at say sc, sc2, dota, online competitive franchises in general. so I don't see the metric even being an argument. witcher 3 is the exception to the rule and is basically the new standard. I disagree with the concepts of standards and baselines in general. All value is inherently subjective and the only way we real understand why we like or dislike something is through careful self review. Or just enjoying the thing and not trying to rate it on a scale. I love flawed, broken games because they are normally shooting for something new. That doesn’t make them good. Witcher 3 is a staggeringly good game. It was also a huge risk that could have destroyed the studio and was built with a lot of crunch/less than great labor practices. Ever RPG cannot be that, which is fine. I dont' want every game to be the W3 in size and scope. That is to much. | ||
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