Hey TL. I'm wondering if anyone who's actually good at this stuff would be willing to help me out with my mono-water item clause team that I've been using on showdown.

Swampert @ Life Orb
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Roar
- Stone Edge

Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 Spd
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic
- Scald
- Giga Drain

Gorebyss @ White Herb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 232 Spd / 252 HP / 24 SDef
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Surf
- Shell Smash
- Baton Pass
- Ice Beam

Greninja @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- U-turn
- Spikes
- Dark Pulse
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef
Relaxed Nature
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
- Slack Off

Slowking @ Choice Specs
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature
- Surf
- Protect
- Trick
- Psyshock

My ACRE is 1532 and I have 66/47 W/L. I'm starting to struggle with people who don't do completely retarded things like Dragon Dance when they've been swapped Choice Specs or Leech Seed+Giga Drain my Tentacruel with Mega Venusaur.

I have a lot of problems with Mega Venusaur, Mega Charizard Y, Defensive Sylveon, Azumarill, Ninetales, and Rotom-W. I realize a lot of these are due to the fact that my team is mono-water and thus Solarbeam imba, but if anyone has any helpful suggestions to mitigate that, let me know. Especially, I'd like to know what to replace Spikes with on Greninja! It's a holdover from before I scarfed it.

For those who care, I'll detail some of my decision-making here. I scarf Greninja because otherwise it seems to lose to scarf Genesect, which I really can't handle U-Turning in my face for the whole match. My Slowking is defensively spec'd despite wearing specs, because typically I trick the specs onto a special wall to make them sad. If I get Leftovers onto Slowking I can actually sometimes stall out Ninetales/Mega Charizard Y if they have a status. Gorebyss is mainly for SmashPass (clearly). Swampert has Roar and not Superpower (which I had on it before) because it's my usual recipient of SmashPass. I'm thinking of switching something for Roar but I'm not sure what to use. Brick Break perhaps? I'm also not sure about Psyshock on Slowking... I rarely use it. Oftentimes Swampert is enough to deal with pink blobs and the like.

Anyways, thoughts?

seRapH

United States9776 Posts

January 13 2014 03:58 GMT

#3607

Just to be clear you're running this team in monotype and not OU? Greninja can carry hasty/naive decently and take extrasensory to help deal with your venasaur problem.

QUEENT

Canada53 Posts

January 13 2014 04:04 GMT

#3608

Oh no I'm doing OU, but I'm self-restricting it to be only waters and no duplicate items.

Edit: OMG EXTRASENSORY THANK YOU! -_- How did I not think of that... My Greninja's got it in my actual game...

seRapH

United States9776 Posts

January 13 2014 04:23 GMT

#3609

It's too bad there aren't any water type pranksters, you could definitely use one. I'm surprised you didn't mention rotom-w as a problem, as your only safe switch is swampert and he can't take a burn. Pranksters like thunderus and sableye should be giving you tons of grief too, since you literally have no priority moves. Consider something like an assault vest azumarill or a barbaracle/feraligatr to give your team some priority (though without a lum they might still lose to sableye). I'm sure you've had to have considered m-gyrados too, which would also be a great choice with his awesome special bulk. As long as he isnt burned he can beat rotom-w and ninetails with ease, and may even beat charizard if you carry stone edge. I really suggest switching swampert and gorebyss out for m-gyrados and maybe use a lanturn as your new rotom check

QUEENT

Canada53 Posts

January 13 2014 04:35 GMT

#3610

Oh cool, thanks! I did actually mention Rotom-W in my list of most hated pokes (after Ninetails, but who cares) but thanks for the Lanturn advice. I was thinking I couldn't switch M-Gyarados for Swampert because I couldn't get rid of the Electric immunity, but if I get Volt Absorb Lanturn I could do it. I actually see comparatively little of Thundurus and Sableye. Generally I try to trick specs onto Sableye and Thundurus I think I've just lost to. Klefki is also annoying but generally I can get rid of it (eventually). I used to have Water Shuriken on Greninja, but without the EV/Nature investment it didn't really do enough damage to justify the slot. Anyways, great advice! Thanks.

Edit: I guess that M-Gyarados would also be great because I put in Gorebyss to allow myself at least one way to set up. With M-Gyarados I could Dragon Dance and not need the extra poke just for Shell Smash. :D

seRapH

United States9776 Posts

January 13 2014 05:19 GMT

#3611

If you're having trouble with klefki switch out one of your slowpoke evos for a gastrodon. In addition to being a hard rotom-w counter he has access to stab earth power and eq and won't mind twave or swagger. Sadly, he doesn't have any way of breaking screens or he'd be exactly what you're looking for.

Major

Mexico539 Posts

January 13 2014 12:28 GMT

#3612

get rid of some slowbro and get a politoed with drizzle

SixStrings

Germany2046 Posts

January 13 2014 13:46 GMT

#3613

On January 13 2014 05:01 seRapH wrote:

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What eeveelution are you aiming for? I'll give you one with the corresponding nature and ability.

One that I can evolve early on in X.

From the looks of them, I like the Dark one, the Psycho one and the Frost one.

Major

Mexico539 Posts

January 13 2014 14:31 GMT

#3614

im looking for ppl to wifi battle me. if u want to battle pm me your fc. thank you

Fazers

736 Posts

January 13 2014 15:09 GMT

#3615

anyone got an extra Regenerator Slowpoke?

Sub Zero

Poland117 Posts

January 13 2014 15:24 GMT

#3616

On January 13 2014 23:31 MajOr wrote:
im looking for ppl to wifi battle me. if u want to battle pm me your fc. thank you

I can battle. 1779-0848-2456 IGN: Gonzo

Anyone else wants to battle add me!

seRapH

United States9776 Posts

January 13 2014 19:05 GMT

#3617

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Arceus-Rock @ Stone Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Judgment
- Earth Power
- Spacial Rend
- Recover

Mewtwo @ Mewtwonite X
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Psycho Cut
- Poison Jab
- Bulk Up

Latias (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Shadow Ball
- Recover
- Defog

Xerneas @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Fairy Aura
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Moonblast
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Psyshock

Dialga @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 248 HP / 8 SDef
Modest Nature
- Flash Cannon
- Aura Sphere
- Draco Meteor
- Substitute

Sableye (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Def
Calm Nature
- Knock Off
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt
- Recover

Does anyone know anything about ubers because I sure as hell don't l0l

I've only played 2 matches (against terribaddies) and already I'm seeing major problems in my team. I don't have a good answer to Power Herb Xerneas, if he switches into a dragon pulse/draco meteor I'm pretty sure I'm fucked because neither Mewtwo nor Xerneas will be able to revenge kill that thing, and Sableye can't possibly wall for a burn stall. What's a good counter to that crap?

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

January 13 2014 19:14 GMT

#3618

hey there, im one of the better uber players (top 50ish on the ladder and 4-0 right now for the SPL farm league)

since xerneas is one of the most centralizing threats, many people carry 2 checks for her. Some of them consist of bronzong, scizor, and aegislash.

Personally I just have a klefki for emergency thunder wave and then deal with it accordingly.

spacial rend is pretty useless on arceus, i would recommend WoW or defog instead.

Dialga is only really useful for SR, so if you really want to use him i recommend using it as a lead to set up SR.

scarf on xerneas is probably not that great of a way to play her, a lot of wasted potential there. Id go with the geomancy or cleric/tank set.

latias doesn't really belong on any serious ubers team. I would recommend palkia as you have zero way of dealing with kyogre sweep