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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 10 2014 20:06 GMT
#1621
On October 11 2014 04:54 419 wrote:
good game mechanic, also a pretty substantial buff to France, as now you can't 1-stack carpet them after wiping them the first time.


This is a... good... thing?

I hope they couple it with changes to AI stubbornness in peace deals. When their army is completely destroyed and their enemy has tens of thousands, they should be willing to give up quite a bit without the entire nation being occupied.
I am the Town Medic.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-10 22:41:44
October 10 2014 20:12 GMT
#1622
On October 11 2014 04:59 JIJI_ wrote:
doing the nadj jihad achievement right now......lol just my luck ottos turn orthodox i have never seen that b4 LOL....

sucks because it took me like WAY longer to kill the mamlacks because i couldnt get an alliance with ottos with them being orthodox

i am at yr 1650ish right now with like 180ish provinces do u guys think i still have a chance or should i just restart? i have westernized alrdy.


I'm pretty sure that you shouldn't westernize for Jihad run because now you can't vassalize Indian / Chinese techgroups.
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 13 2014 14:16 GMT
#1623
So in my current game, there was a short period of time where the Papal State controlled Iceland. Has this happened to anyone else? (I'm playing Texas in SuperStates mod, and this was pretty much the first thing I saw once I discovered Europe)
EZ4ENCE
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 13 2014 14:17 GMT
#1624
If it is not related to your mod, it probably is catholic zealots or something silly
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 00:23:28
October 14 2014 00:22 GMT
#1625
new wallachia ideas:

Traditions
+100% Hostile Core Creation
+5% Discipline
Cunning Diplomacy: +1 Diplomatic Reputation
Foreign Trade Restriction: +20% Provincial Trade Power Modifier
Mercenary Guard: -25% Mercenary Maintainance
Foreign Advisors: -10% Advisor Cost
Legacy of the Impaler: +1 Shock for Generals
Boyar Regime: +1 Legitimacy
Abolition of Serfdom: +20% Manpower

Ambitions
+20% Manpower Recovery


that's like tier 1-level ideas, holy shit
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 14 2014 09:01 GMT
#1626
Wallachia is gonna be one of my favorite marches now with AoW :D
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 10:59:50
October 14 2014 10:58 GMT
#1627
[image loading]

Europe's last stand - unreformed hordes are just amazing at expanding
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14071 Posts
October 14 2014 19:44 GMT
#1628
afganistan is pretty wicked ideas too. 2% attrition always with defensive is crazy op for late game.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
October 15 2014 21:04 GMT
#1629
what is a good way to start as mongolia in 1448 (without taking loans)? Noone is even thinking of supporting my independence at the start. The only one I have found who could start supporting you is chagatai. But that takes forever(even with improve-relation-cancel), and since they always get into an early war against their neighbours it takes even longer. Afterwards they are pretty low on manpower/army so we still lose against oirat+tibet. Even abusing the money/manpower-mission to 100 army tradition doesnt really help.
Maybe just try again? Or is there something I should do different?
Big problem is that I can't unite chagatai and my army since then I wouldn't be fighting on my plains and oirat is intercepting my movement.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6261 Posts
October 15 2014 21:28 GMT
#1630
Iirc DDRJake did a mongolia playtrough recently. Haven't seen it but he's an excellent player.
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
October 15 2014 21:34 GMT
#1631
well there is none in his twitch video library he did one with golden horde, but thats it
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
October 16 2014 06:00 GMT
#1632
all 3 of the mongolia starts that I saw required loans, and most came within ~year of bankruptcy at points

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Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
October 16 2014 08:41 GMT
#1633
now that ive formed Prussia as teutonic order i can confirm that they`re very broken. run into a twice the size austrian army and get a -2 river crossing in the battle is no problem for these invincible demigod soldiers.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Banishment
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany102 Posts
October 16 2014 09:16 GMT
#1634
On October 16 2014 17:41 Irratonalys wrote:
now that ive formed Prussia as teutonic order i can confirm that they`re very broken. run into a twice the size austrian army and get a -2 river crossing in the battle is no problem for these invincible demigod soldiers.


Well, they kinda were the super soldiers of their time. The father of Friedrich the Great, who is also called Friedrich, how convenient, started the prussian legacy and had the nickname Soldier king. Instead of solely relying on Mercenaries, he tried to form a standing army, which wasn't bound to his house only by the monthly pay they received. He also payed his soldiers comparatively well and did a whole lot to provide for them. Treated them like actual human beings, aside from the whole creating a super soldier thing. In exchange he expected discipline and obedience. He didnt allow them to drink excessively or whore around. Which was common place in the mercenary armies of austria and the like. It also was much easier to rise in the ranks of the prussian army for commoners, because he didn't care as much about the birthright of the nobility but also about their military skill. Of course the prussian army wasnt quite as open in that regard as the French revolutionary army. This guys dream was to make Prussia a military power and he succeeded. His Son Friedrich the Great basically reaped the benefits of his fathers reforms and took Schlesien from Austria by fighting them in a couple of wars. And a hundred years later the prussian dynasty unified germany and a hohenzoller became german emperor. Quite the achievement for a country with that kind of starting conditions.
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
October 16 2014 11:49 GMT
#1635
I know (i am from germany after all) but i think for gamebalance reasons theyre too strong.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
October 16 2014 11:58 GMT
#1636
Haven't played Prussia since the discipline nerf, what levels of discipline are reachable currently? I reckon 130%ish should still be beatable..
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-16 14:02:08
October 16 2014 14:00 GMT
#1637
with prussian ambitions , quality and offensive ideas maxed out , being an absolute monarchy with a commandant advisor , and enacting the milita act/the weapon quality standart policies you reach 140% discipline. now combine that with the numerous other boni you get.....
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
October 16 2014 17:07 GMT
#1638
On October 16 2014 23:00 Irratonalys wrote:
with prussian ambitions , quality and offensive ideas maxed out , being an absolute monarchy with a commandant advisor , and enacting the milita act/the weapon quality standart policies you reach 140% discipline. now combine that with the numerous other boni you get.....

Yeah but you can't really blob very fast due to AE in the HRE. So your army will be tiny compared to say, a Russia or a France.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 16 2014 17:09 GMT
#1639
you can still blob faster than usual in the HRE, dont forget the -AE impact if you start out as Brandenburg
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-16 17:27:04
October 16 2014 17:23 GMT
#1640
On October 17 2014 02:09 ShiaoPi wrote:
you can still blob faster than usual in the HRE, dont forget the -AE impact if you start out as Brandenburg

http://i.imgur.com/mtugwpU.jpg?1

My current Hesse game. I vassalized Cologne, Trier and The Palatinate, apart from that only took provinces I had a claim on. agressive expansion ranges from 110-157. Brandenburg has ideas for 10% less ae, so that wouldn't make a huge difference as they would join a coalition at like 60 ae. I can still expand, but it takes the help of 60k Frenchies with their multiple 2 star high shock generals to take a few provinces, only to wait 15 years again .

Maybe I'm just bad for getting everyone so pissed off at me, I don't exactly know how these coalitions can be avoided while keeping a steady expansion rate. But I wouldn't say Brandenburg is broken. Maybe it's ideas are very strong, possibly stronger than other countries, but the fact that they won't have the numbers advantage until later in the game makes them weak.

Isn't that how it went in history as well? Prussia didn't unite Germany and kicked French ass until after this game period ends.

Oh btw: I don't know why I am so lucky in this game.. I was in a war which featured the Palatinate on the other side, noticed I had already vassalized Trier and Cologne just for expansion purposes, thought, why the heck not go for emperor before the inheritance fires and then I got insanely lucky .
Edit 2: just noticed the French have 4 2 star generals... If any country is broken I think we have a better candidate!
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