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Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
July 07 2012 20:39 GMT
#1501
On July 08 2012 05:37 On_Slaught wrote:
Is UMvC considered balanced? Can't help but feel it is impossible to balance a game with so many combos. Doesn't feel like there is as much hero diversity than SSF4.


its not balanced, but its not as defined by matchups as SSF4 Matchup Edition
Warpticon
Profile Joined December 2011
United States278 Posts
July 07 2012 20:39 GMT
#1502
On July 08 2012 05:37 On_Slaught wrote:
Is UMvC considered balanced? Can't help but feel it is impossible to balance a game with so many combos. Doesn't feel like there is as much hero diversity than SSF4.


Games like this are hard to balance. However, it's worth nothing that teams that have 2 of the same characters can play completely differently because of the roles assist play. Altogether, though, it appears to be significantly better balanced at a character level than MvC2 was.
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
July 07 2012 20:41 GMT
#1503
There definitively are popular characters (Vergil, Dante, Zero) but there are a lot of viable teams and character combinations. A reason why Kusoru won Final Round is he figured out how to wffectively use Rocket Racoon, who is considered to be real bad.
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 07 2012 20:42 GMT
#1504
On July 08 2012 05:37 On_Slaught wrote:
Is UMvC considered balanced? Can't help but feel it is impossible to balance a game with so many combos. Doesn't feel like there is as much hero diversity than SSF4.

Edit: I don't think i've seen anything as unfun to watch in an esport than these Zero players who just get off 70 hits in a row like that.

Hm? UMvC is a kusoge game, going hand in hand with HnK and TvsC.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
July 07 2012 20:42 GMT
#1505
On July 08 2012 05:37 On_Slaught wrote:
Is UMvC considered balanced? Can't help but feel it is impossible to balance a game with so many combos. Doesn't feel like there is as much hero diversity than SSF4.

Edit: I don't think i've seen anything as unfun to watch in an esport than these Zero players who just get off 70 hits in a row like that.


balance is weird because the entire cast is so good that the game is oddly balanced. I cam in late, but since I started watching I've seen 42/52 characters played. I agree though that it's kind of lame when a bunch of zeros play in a row and just destroy everyone, but you would feel the same way if they streamed 6 rufuses in a row.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 20:44:05
July 07 2012 20:43 GMT
#1506
There is a top tier, (Vergil, Zero etc) and a fairly large group of characters below that who are viable. Earlier this year it was far more varied (Iron Fist and Rocket Racoon won majors) but approaching Evo its become more top tier centric. And yeah, its impossible to balance, but thats half the fun of it. You haven't even seen the Morrigan bullshit, that stuff will blow your mind.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
July 07 2012 20:44 GMT
#1507
On July 08 2012 05:37 On_Slaught wrote:

Edit: I don't think i've seen anything as unfun to watch in an esport than these Zero players who just get off 70 hits in a row like that.

you should watch zak bennett if he gets on stream next pool. if he gets the first touch on your character he can potentially kill the rest of your team if he executes properly lol.
Coffin
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany229 Posts
July 07 2012 20:44 GMT
#1508
On July 08 2012 05:42 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 05:37 On_Slaught wrote:
Is UMvC considered balanced? Can't help but feel it is impossible to balance a game with so many combos. Doesn't feel like there is as much hero diversity than SSF4.

Edit: I don't think i've seen anything as unfun to watch in an esport than these Zero players who just get off 70 hits in a row like that.

Hm? UMvC is a kusoge game, going hand in hand with HnK and TvsC.


A shit game game? Sorry couldn't resist, the ge in kusoge already stands for game.
I agree though, I dont really enjoy seeing these kinds of games as a real competitive game.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
July 07 2012 20:44 GMT
#1509
It's not so much balance that's the problem but that certain characters are extremely unfun to watch. A long combo is only exciting the first time, after that it's just "oh teleport crossup/lightning into 100+ hit BnB again, welp time to take a drink".
atombombforpeace
Profile Joined December 2008
United States408 Posts
July 07 2012 20:44 GMT
#1510
Haha, that's marvel for you, losing your whole team in 6 seconds.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
July 07 2012 20:45 GMT
#1511
Oh yea, that's why everyone hated wesker
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 20:45:40
July 07 2012 20:45 GMT
#1512
Well at least I know who to root for now... whoever isn't using Zero and/or Vergil

If you use both, well then fuck you lol.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 20:46:28
July 07 2012 20:46 GMT
#1513
Haha, that's marvel for you, losing your whole team in 6 seconds.

I don't know about that, I haven't watched much Marvel 2 but those games seemed to be a lot more measured in their pace. I honestly think mixups are too strong in 3.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
July 07 2012 20:46 GMT
#1514
This fighting game is crazy :/
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 07 2012 20:46 GMT
#1515
On July 08 2012 05:45 On_Slaught wrote:
Well at least I know who to root for now... whoever isn't using Zero and/or Vergil

If you use both, well then fuck you lol.

YUP. And you have to root against Phoenix, she's bullshit, and Morrigan, and Spencer, and Doom hidden missile abusers. And then your rooting against the whole top 16!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 20:48:46
July 07 2012 20:47 GMT
#1516
wow marvel on stream 1 is getting crazy/hype there
On July 08 2012 05:45 On_Slaught wrote:
Well at least I know who to root for now... whoever isn't using Zero and/or Vergil

If you use both, well then fuck you lol.

and don't ever respect phoenix teams, if you haven't seen dark phoenix, you are in for a surprise
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
ShoKakuUtena
Profile Joined May 2011
United States304 Posts
July 07 2012 20:47 GMT
#1517
Jago gotta be mad salty. Good, one less stupid Zero May Cry team, should just stick out with his Trish team.
世界を革命する力を。
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
July 07 2012 20:47 GMT
#1518
hahaha jagoooooo
aka Sowelulol
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 07 2012 20:47 GMT
#1519
But despite that, I love marvel, nothing is more exciting.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Moriarty
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom286 Posts
July 07 2012 20:47 GMT
#1520
I fucking love this, I spent my whole weekend watching this last year and I'd never even heard of it before and now I'm splitting between this and HSC V. What a weekend this is.
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