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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 07 2012 20:47 GMT
#1521
Morrigan the one that just spams those big fireballs non stop?

But ya, i'm all for the upset then.
ShoKakuUtena
Profile Joined May 2011
United States304 Posts
July 07 2012 20:48 GMT
#1522
On July 08 2012 05:46 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 05:45 On_Slaught wrote:
Well at least I know who to root for now... whoever isn't using Zero and/or Vergil

If you use both, well then fuck you lol.

YUP. And you have to root against Phoenix, she's bullshit, and Morrigan, and Spencer, and Doom hidden missile abusers. And then your rooting against the whole top 16!


Would you really root against Combofiend's Spencer, once he activates Comebackfiend?
世界を革命する力を。
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
July 07 2012 20:48 GMT
#1523
On July 08 2012 05:45 On_Slaught wrote:
Well at least I know who to root for now... whoever isn't using Zero and/or Vergil

If you use both, well then fuck you lol.


rooting against the top tier is what I do when I watch fighting games. prepare to be disappointed
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 07 2012 20:48 GMT
#1524
IT'S MAHVEL BAYBEE, haha jago
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 07 2012 20:48 GMT
#1525
On July 08 2012 05:43 MCDayC wrote:
There is a top tier, (Vergil, Zero etc) and a fairly large group of characters below that who are viable. Earlier this year it was far more varied (Iron Fist and Rocket Racoon won majors) but approaching Evo its become more top tier centric. And yeah, its impossible to balance, but thats half the fun of it. You haven't even seen the Morrigan bullshit, that stuff will blow your mind.


This game is a long way away from being figured out so the top tier list will change. I mean, damn, so few Dormammu users actually utilize his spells correctly. Even Liberation isn't used that often.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 07 2012 20:49 GMT
#1526
On July 08 2012 05:47 On_Slaught wrote:
Morrigan the one that just spams those big fireballs non stop?

But ya, i'm all for the upset then.

Soul fist! Soul, soul soul fist!

Yeah. Gotta root for Haggar, the mayor of earth, and he's got a goddam Pipe.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Quenchiest
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada286 Posts
July 07 2012 20:49 GMT
#1527
Well, the balance and inherent randomness of the game is why most tournaments have decided to adopt the 3/5 format over the 2/3 that it's typically been. However, initial pools at EVO are still 2/3 likely due to time constraints.

That said, the better players are still the better players in this game. In the end you'll see a lot of the usual suspects in the quarter/semifinal brackets.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 07 2012 20:50 GMT
#1528
On July 08 2012 05:44 Coffin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 05:42 Lucumo wrote:
On July 08 2012 05:37 On_Slaught wrote:
Is UMvC considered balanced? Can't help but feel it is impossible to balance a game with so many combos. Doesn't feel like there is as much hero diversity than SSF4.

Edit: I don't think i've seen anything as unfun to watch in an esport than these Zero players who just get off 70 hits in a row like that.

Hm? UMvC is a kusoge game, going hand in hand with HnK and TvsC.


A shit game game? Sorry couldn't resist, the ge in kusoge already stands for game.
I agree though, I dont really enjoy seeing these kinds of games as a real competitive game.

You are right, normally I write kusoge player, guess I was paying too much attention to the stream.
They definitely aren't competitive games. Those kusoge players play them for fun, to find the most broken stuff. The characters usually make the games more fun(gotta love HnK and Tatsunoko). Tokido and others play them because it's popular in the US and they can make money off of it. Casual players are in because they feel like they can actually play the game. Some viewers enjoy it simply because it's flashy and broken sh*t is interesting. That's how a game like this becomes popular even though it sucks.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 07 2012 20:51 GMT
#1529
On July 08 2012 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 05:43 MCDayC wrote:
There is a top tier, (Vergil, Zero etc) and a fairly large group of characters below that who are viable. Earlier this year it was far more varied (Iron Fist and Rocket Racoon won majors) but approaching Evo its become more top tier centric. And yeah, its impossible to balance, but thats half the fun of it. You haven't even seen the Morrigan bullshit, that stuff will blow your mind.


This game is a long way away from being figured out so the top tier list will change. I mean, damn, so few Dormammu users actually utilize his spells correctly. Even Liberation isn't used that often.

Agreed. I think Dorm is top 5, but so underused, and they're loads to discover.

On July 08 2012 05:48 ShoKakuUtena wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 05:46 MCDayC wrote:
On July 08 2012 05:45 On_Slaught wrote:
Well at least I know who to root for now... whoever isn't using Zero and/or Vergil

If you use both, well then fuck you lol.

YUP. And you have to root against Phoenix, she's bullshit, and Morrigan, and Spencer, and Doom hidden missile abusers. And then your rooting against the whole top 16!


Would you really root against Combofiend's Spencer, once he activates Comebackfiend?

I was kinda joking I root for Justin despite being a Vergil and Spencer player. The whole point is that you have to accept that people will play top tier characters, in the same way Terran's 111ed, Zerg play turtle brood lord infestor smush, and Toss do sentry immortal pushes. Its what happens in a competitive game. And fuck yeah Combofiend, I want to see how far his She Hulk can go.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Coffin
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany229 Posts
July 07 2012 20:53 GMT
#1530
On July 08 2012 05:47 Moriarty wrote:
I fucking love this, I spent my whole weekend watching this last year and I'd never even heard of it before and now I'm splitting between this and HSC V. What a weekend this is.


Same here dude, same here...and I gotta move tomorrow and should get some rest, but fuck that Im waiting for Mortal Kombat as well.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
July 07 2012 20:53 GMT
#1531
Mamespider's team is really cool to watch, just slinging around giving no fucks about hidden missiles.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 07 2012 20:55 GMT
#1532
On July 08 2012 05:53 Coffin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 05:47 Moriarty wrote:
I fucking love this, I spent my whole weekend watching this last year and I'd never even heard of it before and now I'm splitting between this and HSC V. What a weekend this is.


Same here dude, same here...and I gotta move tomorrow and should get some rest, but fuck that Im waiting for Mortal Kombat as well.

Not trying to start a fight, but why don't you consider Marvel a real competitive game and yet value Moral Kombat? Nothing against Mortal Kombat, but what makes it more legit than UMvC3 to you?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 20:57:37
July 07 2012 20:57 GMT
#1533
On July 08 2012 05:55 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 05:53 Coffin wrote:
On July 08 2012 05:47 Moriarty wrote:
I fucking love this, I spent my whole weekend watching this last year and I'd never even heard of it before and now I'm splitting between this and HSC V. What a weekend this is.


Same here dude, same here...and I gotta move tomorrow and should get some rest, but fuck that Im waiting for Mortal Kombat as well.

Not trying to start a fight, but why don't you consider Marvel a real competitive game and yet value Moral Kombat? Nothing against Mortal Kombat, but what makes it more legit than UMvC3 to you?

my guess would be that you can actually see stuff through flashes.
Im not a fan of either, so no bias ^^
Chun-li since ST
atombombforpeace
Profile Joined December 2008
United States408 Posts
July 07 2012 20:57 GMT
#1534
Fuck yeah tron comeback!!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 07 2012 20:57 GMT
#1535
Tron comeback, legendary.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
July 07 2012 20:57 GMT
#1536
abegen so sick hahaha.
Coffin
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany229 Posts
July 07 2012 20:58 GMT
#1537
On July 08 2012 05:55 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 05:53 Coffin wrote:
On July 08 2012 05:47 Moriarty wrote:
I fucking love this, I spent my whole weekend watching this last year and I'd never even heard of it before and now I'm splitting between this and HSC V. What a weekend this is.


Same here dude, same here...and I gotta move tomorrow and should get some rest, but fuck that Im waiting for Mortal Kombat as well.

Not trying to start a fight, but why don't you consider Marvel a real competitive game and yet value Moral Kombat? Nothing against Mortal Kombat, but what makes it more legit than UMvC3 to you?


Oh I didnt say it was more competitive, the fact that Im waiting for that is just cause I personally prefer watching it by alot.
ShoKakuUtena
Profile Joined May 2011
United States304 Posts
July 07 2012 20:58 GMT
#1538
LOL. Viscant: "I have terrible memories of this character." Match proceeds to be a Tron comeback. Viscant proceeds to relive saltiness. XD
世界を革命する力を。
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 07 2012 20:58 GMT
#1539
who the f cares umvc3 is fun to watch no matter how much you dont like to play it, kof is the best game being played at evo anyways imo.
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
July 07 2012 20:58 GMT
#1540
Viscant having flashbacks.
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