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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
October 10 2012 05:40 GMT
#341
On October 10 2012 14:33 Pufftrees wrote:
Is classic just a difficulty.. essentially Hard? It goes Easy -> Normal -> Classic -> Impossible

SO I assume its just Hard and not necessarily different mode. I'm just getting started but being spoon fed too much, how can I get it more non linear? Or does it just do this at the start?

Consider it a very long string of tutorial levels with various amounts of handholding.
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beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
October 10 2012 05:56 GMT
#342
On October 10 2012 00:59 LaNague wrote:
yes, you can do that, but you shpuld know that theoretically, this is grounds for the termination of your steam account inculding all games.


While that's correct, the buzz around the internet seems to be that as long as you don't use these methods to pay less for purchases (i.e for example using a russian tor exit node to buy the game much cheaper), they don't really care. I've done it and haven't experienced any ill effects. So far.
HoboJoe20
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada63 Posts
October 10 2012 05:56 GMT
#343
On October 10 2012 14:40 Spazer wrote:
Consider it a very long string of tutorial levels with various amounts of handholding.

Well, it is a tutorial. Once you uncheck the option, you just skip ahead about 3 missions or so if I remember right (midnight seems so long ago now ...)

On the note about the difficulties - yes, it is just a difficulty setting. They did do a good job making it actually hard which is great, and I do know that on Classic you start with a couple fewer buildings in your base than you do on Normal (not sure about Impossible, but I assume you start with less than on Classic)
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
October 10 2012 06:06 GMT
#344
The only thing i dislike so far is the way Class System works it's way too random. I got 7 Snipers but only 1 Heavy 1 Assault and 1 Supporter ...
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
October 10 2012 06:46 GMT
#345
Playing now on classic with no tutorial... O man it's so much fun! Feeling like old days so far.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
October 10 2012 06:50 GMT
#346
Having way too much fun getting my butt kicked on Classic Ironman. I finally had a pretty good game going, till all of the abduction mission choices I had were "Very Difficult" and my entire upped squad went down in a blaze of combined Muton/Thin Man/Floater/Sectoid fire. It's really cool watching the AI flank the hell out of your guys, but really everything about the game is just awesome - can't say enough about it!
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
October 10 2012 07:29 GMT
#347
On October 10 2012 15:50 eluv wrote:
Having way too much fun getting my butt kicked on Classic Ironman. I finally had a pretty good game going, till all of the abduction mission choices I had were "Very Difficult" and my entire upped squad went down in a blaze of combined Muton/Thin Man/Floater/Sectoid fire. It's really cool watching the AI flank the hell out of your guys, but really everything about the game is just awesome - can't say enough about it!


my classic ironman attempt 4 just ended on the same kind of mission.. i got cocky with full laser rifles/good armor/ captains then the fucking mutons showed up. GRENADESSS
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Filter
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada620 Posts
October 10 2012 08:13 GMT
#348
On October 10 2012 15:06 s3rp wrote:
The only thing i dislike so far is the way Class System works it's way too random. I got 7 Snipers but only 1 Heavy 1 Assault and 1 Supporter ...


Same thing here. Having 1 sniper is great, having a whole squad of them sucks.
Live hard, live free.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:36:05
October 10 2012 12:34 GMT
#349
On October 10 2012 17:13 Filter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 15:06 s3rp wrote:
The only thing i dislike so far is the way Class System works it's way too random. I got 7 Snipers but only 1 Heavy 1 Assault and 1 Supporter ...


Same thing here. Having 1 sniper is great, having a whole squad of them sucks.


Worst part is you drag a Rookie through a mission where if the Aliens shoot once at him he'll be 100% dead only to get ANOTHER guy you can't use .
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
October 10 2012 12:48 GMT
#350
On October 10 2012 15:06 s3rp wrote:
The only thing i dislike so far is the way Class System works it's way too random. I got 7 Snipers but only 1 Heavy 1 Assault and 1 Supporter ...


Is there any way to tell what they are going to become without getting them promoted first? I've only played for a couple hours but so far it seems like the heavy, support, and assault all look the same as rookies?
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
October 10 2012 12:50 GMT
#351
Watched ROOTSlush's stream last two days.. game seems really fun, Slush also plays on classic+Ironman. XCom program looks like a sharktank, how do they get volunteers?

I would really like some statistics on the memorial (average kills, average missions from deployment to death etc.). When I buy the game on Friday I will make my own little excel sheet, I guess.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 14:03:22
October 10 2012 13:44 GMT
#352
On October 10 2012 21:48 CaptainCrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 15:06 s3rp wrote:
The only thing i dislike so far is the way Class System works it's way too random. I got 7 Snipers but only 1 Heavy 1 Assault and 1 Supporter ...


Is there any way to tell what they are going to become without getting them promoted first? I've only played for a couple hours but so far it seems like the heavy, support, and assault all look the same as rookies?


No its not , i reloaded after i basically lost my whole first squad trying to level a rookie ( the rookie survied ) and both times he became something different.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 10 2012 14:14 GMT
#353
So it's random when they get promoted? That's good to know. I might have to reload an easy mission a few times because I'm getting way too many support class and not enough assault.

How does health work? I noticed all my starting personnel started at 5 health but all my new hires started at 6. Does it have a chance of becoming higher with missions or just with promotions?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
October 10 2012 14:22 GMT
#354
On October 10 2012 21:50 AngryMag wrote:
Watched ROOTSlush's stream last two days.. game seems really fun, Slush also plays on classic+Ironman. XCom program looks like a sharktank, how do they get volunteers?

I would really like some statistics on the memorial (average kills, average missions from deployment to death etc.). When I buy the game on Friday I will make my own little excel sheet, I guess.

They are not told what is really going on?! :D

All Xcom rookies are hand picked best of the best from around the world. Plenty of dedicated soldiers that don't ask questions and do what they are told in this world.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9802 Posts
October 10 2012 14:26 GMT
#355
On October 10 2012 23:22 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 21:50 AngryMag wrote:
Watched ROOTSlush's stream last two days.. game seems really fun, Slush also plays on classic+Ironman. XCom program looks like a sharktank, how do they get volunteers?

I would really like some statistics on the memorial (average kills, average missions from deployment to death etc.). When I buy the game on Friday I will make my own little excel sheet, I guess.

They are not told what is really going on?! :D

All Xcom rookies are hand picked best of the best from around the world. Plenty of dedicated soldiers that don't ask questions and do what they are told in this world.

They're all wusses though. They get shot or a muton looks in their general direction and they start shooting my veterans in the back >.>
boomer hands
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
October 10 2012 14:53 GMT
#356
Does anyone else fall behind on their research in Classic difficulty? I always go up against tougher aliens before I have laser weapons, even when I rush tech.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22208 Posts
October 10 2012 14:55 GMT
#357
On October 10 2012 23:53 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Does anyone else fall behind on their research in Classic difficulty? I always go up against tougher aliens before I have laser weapons, even when I rush tech.


I assume there will be certain research paths that will get you guns in time but it will mean sacrificing things like the live alien stuff.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
October 10 2012 14:58 GMT
#358
God damn, I've been playing a fair amount and I only just realized I could sell stuff to get more money.

Obviously a total noob right here! Great game so far though, lost almost all of my original squad, mostly to poor tactical judgements, but I refuse to a load a save because the whole point is to get better over time and learn from mistakes, rather than just correct your mistakes as they happen.

No doubt I'm totally doomed here, can't keep up with research, but I think thats partly due to my not realizing I could sell stuff ¬_¬
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
October 10 2012 15:05 GMT
#359
On October 10 2012 23:14 andrewlt wrote:
So it's random when they get promoted? That's good to know. I might have to reload an easy mission a few times because I'm getting way too many support class and not enough assault.

How does health work? I noticed all my starting personnel started at 5 health but all my new hires started at 6. Does it have a chance of becoming higher with missions or just with promotions?

There's an upgrade you can buy in the officer thingy which makes new characters start at a higher level, could be that.

My impressions so far:
Love the game. Lost a few people, but no reload so far and got an A from the council on my first month and I'm expecting an A this month again.

Im wondering a bit about progression though. Obviously, there are "key objectives" which push the story forward (capture X, create Y) and when you do those, it feels like the game progresses... a bit too much for comfort, you can't research or get funds fast enough. So I'm sorta wondering if there's a downside to not doing those missions on purpose to get ahead with research etc. I mean, I just ran into cryssalids for the first time and I was hard-pressed to be sure, a laser to the face is not enough to take em down and they come up to you so darn fast. One of my squadies was even one-shotted by a zombie

I also got a terror mission, which was cool but... how do they expect you to get good scores on those? In like 2 turns, civilians started dying on the other side of the map, and this mission was "very difficult" so it's not like I could rush past enemies. I saved a decent amount (about half) but still only got "good" rating :8
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22208 Posts
October 10 2012 15:15 GMT
#360
Got the first terror mission and managed to deal with Cryssalids by using an Assault with the fire twice perk. just run into its face and shoot twice. But yes you need to run fast during terror missions. Im personaly a big fan of always taking 2 assaults with me. But half my soldiers are Assault ><

Really wish you could chose a class for them
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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