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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 09 2013 19:28 GMT
#2541
nah the game will always make one die first
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
August 09 2013 19:30 GMT
#2542
No, there will always be one that die first and the other guy goes Super Saiyan.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
August 09 2013 22:57 GMT
#2543
Hmm, im still not sure which weapon i should upgrade above +5. What is the difference between "Modify equipment" and "Enhance Weapon"? I could upgrade my weapons to +6 with both options. Are there any differences? Beside that, under modifiy equipment I could make my weapons "Raw" weapons. What exactly does that mean and whats the difference to +6? Cost is the same, 1 large shard
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 23:56:31
August 09 2013 23:56 GMT
#2544
i didnt read much about the game to experience it myself, but different enchantments do different things.
raw for example lowers or removes stat scaling, but adds more flat damage i think.



I havent found many weapons myself, i started with a scimitar, but i dont like the moves at all, its supposed to be fast but its rather slow.
I am using a longsword i found on enemies, it has a nice lunge attack that i can use after i dodge something. Plus the follow up from the lunge is a quick upwards slash, it looks cool and is far better than what the scimitar does.


Cant wait to find more weapons :D
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
August 21 2013 15:01 GMT
#2545
Why is it that I am constantly invaded + I am able to summon invaders through the red signs... BUT, I am never able to summon help, it constantly fails. Fuck this game.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
August 21 2013 15:20 GMT
#2546
just dont turn human then. if you play as a hollow, you cant get invaded
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 21 2013 15:24 GMT
#2547
or play offline so you can be human?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 22 2013 08:29 GMT
#2548
On August 22 2013 00:01 Animzor wrote:
Why is it that I am constantly invaded + I am able to summon invaders through the red signs... BUT, I am never able to summon help, it constantly fails. Fuck this game.

Are you sure your ports are forwarded properly? (If you're on PC that is.)
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
PhoenixHope
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada50 Posts
August 31 2013 00:50 GMT
#2549
Dark Souls is currently 75% off on amazon.com bringing it to $7.49. Great deal for a great game. If you are not in the USA you can still get it if you use an address from there seeing as how it is a digitally delivered game. I used a relative's address a long time ago when it was $15.
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 02:31:27
August 31 2013 02:28 GMT
#2550
On August 10 2013 07:57 Enox wrote:
Hmm, im still not sure which weapon i should upgrade above +5. What is the difference between "Modify equipment" and "Enhance Weapon"? I could upgrade my weapons to +6 with both options. Are there any differences? Beside that, under modifiy equipment I could make my weapons "Raw" weapons. What exactly does that mean and whats the difference to +6? Cost is the same, 1 large shard


Umm, what? There should only be one way to make a weapon +6, and that's with the "Modify Equipment" first option at the top of the blacksmith's menu. A +5 weapon shouldn't be showing up in the "Reinforce Weapon" option (the second one). Modifying Equipment is for "Ascending" weapons to a new type of weapon, be it lightning, fire, magic, or whatever (including choosing to continue on the same normal path from +5 normal to +6 normal and +10 normal to +11 normal, where upgrade branches occur at), whereas "Reinforcing" your weapon just levels it up on its existing path until it reaches a branching point.

Do not go Raw. It sucks. Raw increases the weapon's base damage and reduces its scaling, however the increased base damage is actually worse than just continuing on a normal path. A raw weapon's base damage will be about like a +7/8 to +12/13 normal weapon(depending on how far you upgrade it), and still has worse scaling so it's still weaker than a normal weapon in that range. Even in a low level game where scaling is nonexistent, an elemental weapon will still also have more damage on its physical part alone, coupled with its elemental part. Raw is nothing more than a beginners trap (like the worthless resistance stat), since it is immediately available before most people even find an ember for other upgrades, and is objectively worse than every other path.

Use whatever weapon's moveset you like the most. The weapons are really well balanced overall, so whatever you have the most fun with will be perfectly fine to upgrade. Weapons are about how good you are with its moveset as a player more than anything else.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12281 Posts
August 31 2013 02:52 GMT
#2551
On August 31 2013 11:28 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 07:57 Enox wrote:
Hmm, im still not sure which weapon i should upgrade above +5. What is the difference between "Modify equipment" and "Enhance Weapon"? I could upgrade my weapons to +6 with both options. Are there any differences? Beside that, under modifiy equipment I could make my weapons "Raw" weapons. What exactly does that mean and whats the difference to +6? Cost is the same, 1 large shard


Umm, what? There should only be one way to make a weapon +6, and that's with the "Modify Equipment" first option at the top of the blacksmith's menu. A +5 weapon shouldn't be showing up in the "Reinforce Weapon" option (the second one). Modifying Equipment is for "Ascending" weapons to a new type of weapon, be it lightning, fire, magic, or whatever (including choosing to continue on the same normal path from +5 normal to +6 normal and +10 normal to +11 normal, where upgrade branches occur at), whereas "Reinforcing" your weapon just levels it up on its existing path until it reaches a branching point.

Do not go Raw. It sucks. Raw increases the weapon's base damage and reduces its scaling, however the increased base damage is actually worse than just continuing on a normal path. A raw weapon's base damage will be about like a +7/8 to +12/13 normal weapon(depending on how far you upgrade it), and still has worse scaling so it's still weaker than a normal weapon in that range. Even in a low level game where scaling is nonexistent, an elemental weapon will still also have more damage on its physical part alone, coupled with its elemental part. Raw is nothing more than a beginners trap (like the worthless resistance stat), since it is immediately available before most people even find an ember for other upgrades, and is objectively worse than every other path.

Use whatever weapon's moveset you like the most. The weapons are really well balanced overall, so whatever you have the most fun with will be perfectly fine to upgrade. Weapons are about how good you are with its moveset as a player more than anything else.


Hm I think Modify Equipment applies when going from +5 to +6 and +10 to +11, whenever you have to make use of the Large or Very Large Embers. Beyond that you upgrade through Reinforce though.
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Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
August 31 2013 02:58 GMT
#2552
On August 31 2013 11:52 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 11:28 Fyrewolf wrote:
On August 10 2013 07:57 Enox wrote:
Hmm, im still not sure which weapon i should upgrade above +5. What is the difference between "Modify equipment" and "Enhance Weapon"? I could upgrade my weapons to +6 with both options. Are there any differences? Beside that, under modifiy equipment I could make my weapons "Raw" weapons. What exactly does that mean and whats the difference to +6? Cost is the same, 1 large shard


Umm, what? There should only be one way to make a weapon +6, and that's with the "Modify Equipment" first option at the top of the blacksmith's menu. A +5 weapon shouldn't be showing up in the "Reinforce Weapon" option (the second one). Modifying Equipment is for "Ascending" weapons to a new type of weapon, be it lightning, fire, magic, or whatever (including choosing to continue on the same normal path from +5 normal to +6 normal and +10 normal to +11 normal, where upgrade branches occur at), whereas "Reinforcing" your weapon just levels it up on its existing path until it reaches a branching point.

Do not go Raw. It sucks. Raw increases the weapon's base damage and reduces its scaling, however the increased base damage is actually worse than just continuing on a normal path. A raw weapon's base damage will be about like a +7/8 to +12/13 normal weapon(depending on how far you upgrade it), and still has worse scaling so it's still weaker than a normal weapon in that range. Even in a low level game where scaling is nonexistent, an elemental weapon will still also have more damage on its physical part alone, coupled with its elemental part. Raw is nothing more than a beginners trap (like the worthless resistance stat), since it is immediately available before most people even find an ember for other upgrades, and is objectively worse than every other path.

Use whatever weapon's moveset you like the most. The weapons are really well balanced overall, so whatever you have the most fun with will be perfectly fine to upgrade. Weapons are about how good you are with its moveset as a player more than anything else.


Hm I think Modify Equipment applies when going from +5 to +6 and +10 to +11, whenever you have to make use of the Large or Very Large Embers. Beyond that you upgrade through Reinforce though.


Yeah, that's exactly what I explained in the first paragraph.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
August 31 2013 03:20 GMT
#2553
Wow! Such a cheap price! I played this and Demon's Souls a few times on friends' PS3s and always wanted a PS3 because of it.

The question I have now is, how much of a payoff does playing with a controller give? To someone who doesn't spend much money on unnecessary things, is it really worth the extra $20 to play it on a 360 controller?
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 03:26:44
August 31 2013 03:24 GMT
#2554
On August 31 2013 12:20 hp.Shell wrote:
Wow! Such a cheap price! I played this and Demon's Souls a few times on friends' PS3s and always wanted a PS3 because of it.

The question I have now is, how much of a payoff does playing with a controller give? To someone who doesn't spend much money on unnecessary things, is it really worth the extra $20 to play it on a 360 controller?

I would recommend using a controller for this game, I personally think that its basically a requirement because I have NEVER IN MY LIFE seen such poorly designed keyboard controls. Seriously, the keyboard controls are like three steps below fucking Dwarf Fortress in user friendliness. When I dont have a controller to use I dont play this game because its just that bad.
Personally I think its worth an extra $20 although ideally you wouldnt need it of course. Maybe you can borrow a spare from a friend.

Some people seem to be able to play with keyboard controls though, you could always give it a try.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
August 31 2013 03:49 GMT
#2555
Thanks for that, it sounds like a necessity now. I have a ps2 controller that I may get a usb adapter for. Can't go wrong with 3 bucks!
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Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
August 31 2013 04:15 GMT
#2556
I would recommend a controller too, but the keyboard controls are perfectly fine. There is literally nothing wrong with them other than people not being used to that kind of setup nowadays, and it's probably the best possible translation of controls they could have done (rebinding isn't hard either). The mouse sucks, but the keyboard controls are fine. If you have played any fps on pc, which almost always use the keys surrounding wasd for stuff, you'll be fine, it's just doing that with both hands.

The keyboard controls are wasd for movement and ijkl for camera. Around the left hand Ctrl makes you walk, Shift is block, Tab is parry, E is use, Space is dodge/sprint, L Alt to one/two-hand weapon, and R/F/C/V switchs your magic/item/left hand/right hand equips.

Around the right hand, Attack/Heavy attack are on U and H right next to the camera controls, as is O for target lock/center camera. I do not recommend using the mouse for camera.

Menu controls (since there is no pause) is over on the arrow keys and island, with End being open menu, arrow keys (and pgup/pgdwn) for navigation, enter for confirm, backspace for cancel, del to remove equips, and ins to change the stats display. This is really not that strange for menus either, other older games sometimes used this as well (though it's usually home instead of end for the menu).

I use a cheap ten dollar controller myself, except when I'm feeling too lazy to grab it, or it's pissing me off because of its annoying deadzone and its finickyness with jump attacks. I'm have no problem with the keyboard controls, but I'm pretty accustomed to that style from other games.


"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 31 2013 05:06 GMT
#2557
Its the lack of mouse control that gets me I think
Having two hands on the keyboard all the time just feels... wrong.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PhoenixHope
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada50 Posts
August 31 2013 05:14 GMT
#2558
Game feels great to me with keyboard and mouse. I do have the DS fixes. I have a microsoft xbox controller for the pc and I'm not even opting to use it.
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
August 31 2013 05:18 GMT
#2559
To be honest I'm not sure if I could stand that control setup. Parry on Tab combined with strafe left with A seems difficult when also using the camera controls. Then again, the mouse might be simpler to use if I can just press U/H/O on the other side and stop using the mouse when going into the menu.

Then again, I might be able to find my old DDR PS2 to PC adapter and just use that. I did buy a new PS2 controller a couple years ago when I was going to go through some old games that I never finished.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 05:26:43
August 31 2013 05:25 GMT
#2560
You can use numpad 1, 2, 3, 0, 5 for attack 1/attack 2/block/lock-on/parry and arrow keys for camera control.
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