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as long as it didn't actually show pornographic images during commercials or whatever who gives a fuck? GoDaddy sells sex, almost every magazine sells it, hell the world wrestling federation sells it (yes, I used the full WWF name cause I don't know what the E is for rofl), why not the actual adult entertainment industry?
Do I personally like the idea, no, who pays for porn anyway. But, $$ is $$ and where it comes from I frankly don't give a rats butt.
There are plenty of ways to advertise a porn site WITHOUT actually revealing any pornography and if Brazzers can bring to the table a way to keep ads watchable for all ages, then go for it. I'm sorry, but there are more vulgar cartoons on cartoon network these days that people should really be protesting.
side note : If this was UFC, you would be all for this, just sayin'.
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I hope not this will be something we get to see in the Starcraft 2 scene, imagine Brazzers listed with all big sponsors like Intel, Coca-Cola, AMD etc. I don't think anyone of them want to be associated with anything like porn, would probably be a nightmare. Other than that I really don't care whenever they should sponsor or so, but if that happens I don't think it will go well for e-Sports.
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On April 04 2012 02:52 Kazeyonoma wrote:
And this is how, you prevent things from making it into the mainstream, because it scares away the average consumer, and instead pokes fun at what legitimate organizers are trying to build.
Hate to say it, but this shit, and supporters of it, are literally killing eSports. You think, any legitimate sponsor wants to be competition for this? You think Coca-Cola will want to sponsor a team or event, when there's PORN affiliated stuff plastered all over it? Then comes the "wait, so Coca-Cola supports Brazzers?" or "Brazzer's PWNED Pepsi! at that tournament!". Fuck no. You allow this in, then you lose all other possibilities of sponsors, because they cannot, let themselves become associated with it AT ALL. This is PR suicide, for any team who wants to be taken seriously, but hey, the FGC doesn't give a shit anyways, so let them take the money and run.
It's no surprise, despite it's long history of good games, the FGC has failed to make it 'big' in the world of competitive broadcasting.... wonder why.
Probably because the FG genre is oversaturated with solid titles. The RTS genre isn't exactly brimming with popular spectator quality games. The assumption that I see being perpetuated is that SC2 eSports will become some kind of spectator sport 'Goliath', given time, and the reality I observe is that most people don't want to watch people playing some computer game they don't play themselves. I can't even catch a Bo3 while people are around me without them bitching and complaining about how it's shit. I disagree, and think watching competitive SC2 is awesome, but let's just pretend the scene has hit its peak. If you want more mass appeal, get sponsors people actually find interesting into the mix and suddenly, this scene could have new life blown into it, or would demise ahead of schedule and break the delusions.
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There is a difference between using 'sexy' images to promote something, and outright being sponsored by a porn site. You're kidding yourself if you think the UFC or any other organization as large as them would commit PR nightmare of taking on a pornagraphic sponsorship. There would be so much backlash and controversy not only from media and some of the fans and organizers but they would LOSE more of the other sponsors who want nothing to do with a porn site. It's common fucking sense actually and it is amazing how many people don't understand that simple concept.
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I run a small streaming porn site and I wanted to host some $100 prizepool tournaments to get the name around and even sponsor a small little team and such.
Considering all the negativity on seen on reddit on this subject (Brazzers sponsorship, haven't gotten to reading the whole thread here) I may decide to not go ahead with my little SC2 tournaments/sponsoring, etc.
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On April 04 2012 03:03 Zorkmid wrote:
Porn needs advertising?
This question wins the whole thread.
Seriously, which internet user(and therefore gamer) does not know about Brazzers?  I don't think the sponsorship will make a difference for them.
This is hilarious though. Although I don't think it will work out; I mean, a porn site sponsoring something watched by several <18 yo's...
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On April 04 2012 03:03 Zorkmid wrote:
Porn needs advertising?
This man, he speaks the truth.
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I can confirm through people who were directly involved in the FGC that gays, women, and minorities were publicly executed on the main stages of RIGGED tournaments. THIS IS REAL, FOLKS. I haven't actually watched a tournament or followed any of the community, but I know a guy on the internet that said they THROW SHOES. It doesn't surprise me they'd do something as barbaric as this. The terrorists have won. E-deportes are dead as we know it. How will anyone take professional VIDYA GAMES seriously if a deplorable business of pornography puts its name on a players t-shirt. We should just stick with our respectable sponsors of Xtreme energy drinks and "GAMER SNAXX" like Doritos, Hot Pockets, and Slim Jims.
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If you are so hard up that you need porn at video game tournaments than you need to go outside and find a woman.
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On April 04 2012 03:07 Jerglings wrote:
I can confirm through people who directly were also directly involved in the FGC that gays, women, and minorities were publicly executed on the main stages of RIGGED tournaments. THIS IS REAL, FOLKS. I haven't actually watched a tournament or followed any of the community, but I know a guy on the internet that said they THROW SHOES. It doesn't surprise me they'd do something as barbaric as this. The terrorists have won. E-deportes are dead as we know it. How will anyone take professional VIDYA GAMES seriously if a deplorable business of pornography puts its name on a players t-shirt. We should just stick with our respectable sponsors of Xtreme energy drinks and "GAMER SNAXX" like Doritos, Hot Pockets, and Slim Jims.
A minute of silence to the hilarity that is this one post. And I hope everyone realizes the whole sarcasm thing in it; For some it's hard to see it through written words.
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On April 04 2012 03:12 Leth0 wrote:
If you are so hard up that you need porn at video game tournaments than you need to go outside and find a woman.
You're an idiot if you think LI Joe went out of his way to get this going for the porn and not the money. Herrrrr Derrrr.
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We've already got hot pockets, doritos and dr pepper. With brazzers, the only thing missing from the nerd trifecta will be a futon supply company sponsorship.
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I was referring to the people who think this is a good idea. You can't expect a player to turn away any sponsors no matter who they are, especially FG players who have no money to begin with. 'Herrr derrr', really classy there champ.
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On April 04 2012 03:16 Leth0 wrote:
I was referring to the people who think this is a good idea. You can't expect a player to turn away any sponsors no matter who they are, especially FG players who have no money to begin with. 'Herrr derrr', really classy there champ.
Herrrr Derr, just like when you bashed everyone who has made any positive comment about this topic with your "Macho attitude" of " go outside and find a woman." It's not like Brazzers is going to take over those intermissions between games at MLG and have hardcore porn playing. Also my opinion on the matter, if it works go for it. But I feel the biggest issue is how other sponsors would respond to it.
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On April 04 2012 03:05 Zephirdd wrote:This question wins the whole thread. Seriously, which internet user(and therefore gamer) does not know about Brazzers? I don't think the sponsorship will make a difference for them. This is hilarious though. Although I don't think it will work out; I mean, a porn site sponsoring something watched by several <18 yo's...
...which differs from Brazzers itself just how?
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If by "macho comment" you mean common sense as to why this is a bad idea for anyone who wants to be taken seriously than yea. MLG will NOT have any players at their tournament with a sponsorship like that. The other sponsors would respond by simply saying "hey, if you do this, you WILL lose us". That should be obvious to everyone.
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When stuff like this happens I wish that allt he progressives and rational thinkers in this world could get on a huge space craft and just go live on another planet. The only reason this is a problem is that backwards minded people arbitrarily associates porn (or to a lesser extent sex) with bad morality.
There is nothing morally wrong with Brazzers buisness. They produce a form of entertainment that is consumed by a great ammount of people over the world. They are not a skeevy site that deals in trafficing or forces women into starring in their movies. If you want to make an argument that they are portraying women in a bad light then sure make that argument, but some people will make the argument that porn empowers women. I'm not going to go into that huge debate right now though.
Now I don't personally get off on main stream porn like what Brazzers do. It's just evident to me that the women in the movies are mostly not enjoying what's being done to them (as in they wouldn't have sex like that in their private life). That being said, porn is not bad in itself. It is an industry that provides pleasure by showing consensual sex between adults (if done legally). If one looks at that and says "well gosh darn that is immoral", that person is illogical and wrong.
Having young kids watch porn is something I think we can all agree on is immoral becuase they are too young to understand what is real and not. But I don't think its up to all of society to shield kids from porn at any cost. Any sensible parent will have his kids computer blocking porn sites and as long as no actual sex is going on in public that child should be old enough to understand what porn is when he/she is first exposed to it. I also don't see how a Brazzers logo on someones shirt is going to expose a child to porn.
So the corporations shy away from asociating with porn because they are afraid of the backlash it might have on their own buisness. That backlash is built on a vast majority of people being idiots. There is no nicer way to say it. Thinking that porn is immoral without taking a look at the facts or even distinguishing between different kinds of porn is simply stupid. Apparently a large enough ammount of these companies customers are this misinformed and thus we have to endure this stupidity.
This is why when I say I want to go far away from this planet I'm wishing it because of the events or sponsors that make these decisions. I'm wishing it because of the immense stupidity of ordinary people in our world and their inability to educate themselves on very basic subjects.
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Reminds me of the EU troll team "Red Eyed Jedis" that played TF2 6v6, who sent a not-so-serious email to fleshlights official website asking for sponsorship. Which they got.
lol.
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Just isn't doable if esports wants a decently sized market.
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