On April 04 2012 14:44 Proko wrote: I would quit following foreign tournaments really quick if something like this happened.
That's what you say now until it comes time for your favorite player to play in one of those "foreign" tournaments. I'd bet you'd watch it regardless of the advertisements.
Don't be such a drama queen...
Porn is degrading and victimizes women, this is not something I'm willing to compromise on. You might assume I'm the only one, who feels this way but you're wrong.
I am more offended that you consider it a problem that women have the choice to be adult actresses if they want to. It's not like they're being forced into it. If you don't like it, don't watch, but there's nothing wrong with it.
It's not just the actress you should be concerned about. P.S. if you think everyone who does porn is treated well, fairly and is perfectly happy with the decision you're deluded.
Have you read any of the stuff about how poorly video game testers are treated? There's been a decent amount of press about it recently, 92 hour work weeks for months on end without overtime pay, followed by being laid off. I bet a ton of people would way rather work in porn than in those conditions.
So knowing that conditions are so bad, am I anti-video game? No, not at all. I'm against treating employees unethically, but I recognize that some companies are more moral than others, and try to spend my money accordingly.
Keep in mind we're talking about legal, unethical treatment here. If someone is doing porn against their will or something, obviously I hope those involved are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But as long as we're in the realm of legal, but still worrying, some business are going to be bad and others aren't, same as in any industry.
On April 04 2012 19:45 Mazaire wrote: The fighting community have successfully isolated themselves from the rest of E-sports with this childish maneuver.
The fighting game community doesn't want to be associated with the rest of ESPORTS you buffoon, why do you think theyve resisted MLG for so long.
On April 04 2012 14:44 Proko wrote: I would quit following foreign tournaments really quick if something like this happened.
That's what you say now until it comes time for your favorite player to play in one of those "foreign" tournaments. I'd bet you'd watch it regardless of the advertisements.
Don't be such a drama queen...
Porn is degrading and victimizes women, this is not something I'm willing to compromise on. You might assume I'm the only one, who feels this way but you're wrong.
That is true and I agree with you. But, saying that you won't watch foreign tournaments because of it is a bit much...
On April 04 2012 14:44 Proko wrote: I would quit following foreign tournaments really quick if something like this happened.
That's what you say now until it comes time for your favorite player to play in one of those "foreign" tournaments. I'd bet you'd watch it regardless of the advertisements.
Don't be such a drama queen...
Porn is degrading and victimizes women, this is not something I'm willing to compromise on. You might assume I'm the only one, who feels this way but you're wrong.
I am more offended that you consider it a problem that women have the choice to be adult actresses if they want to. It's not like they're being forced into it. If you don't like it, don't watch, but there's nothing wrong with it.
I should also say that if you're invoking a quasi feminist argument on this subject you need to spend some time reading up on your theory. There's a big problem with the objectification of women in our culture already.
I would suggest you read "50 shades of grey" and then, read women's opinions on that book
I really don't see what's the problem with porn being advertised to underage people... considering most have sex when they're 15 or thereabouts, saying underage kids don't watch porn on their own is a bit silly as well it just takes people to not be hypocrites and suddenly they'd realise there's nothing wrong with brazzers being a sponsor, pretty sure their advertisement will not violate any censorship laws anyway, as long as e-sport grows it's good for bussiness I guess
also don't say that women are victimized in porn... you can say some women are but most of them choose it of their own free will and circumstances they find themselves in
On April 04 2012 14:44 Proko wrote: I would quit following foreign tournaments really quick if something like this happened.
That's what you say now until it comes time for your favorite player to play in one of those "foreign" tournaments. I'd bet you'd watch it regardless of the advertisements.
Don't be such a drama queen...
Porn is degrading and victimizes women, this is not something I'm willing to compromise on. You might assume I'm the only one, who feels this way but you're wrong.
Why do you say only women are victimized? What about gay porn or since it's two males then one doesn't consider this to be the same? Then how about pegging sites or other bondage based sites based on women humiliating men.
What does it matter if Brazzers gets involved with esports? People who sit at home and fap are more likely to be gamers, so it'd increase eSports' potential audience. They're a company like any other sponsor, so I don't see what the problem is. Apart from the use of the (*gasp*) n word.
Im not part of the fighting game community nor do i ever play fighting games, but i still think this is great. Not sure why people are negative about it. Any esports reaching out anywhere is great. Getting the word out about the games, whats there to hate.
On April 05 2012 00:57 solidbebe wrote: To anyone who thinks it's okay for Brazzers to sponsor. Would you still be okay with it if it wasn't 'brazzers' but something like: 'hornybangbabes'?
Have to remember, this is fighting games. If you offered the players in that community the choice between being on team Complexity or team BigWetAsses, assuming the pay & benefits are the same, I could see a majority or at least similar amounts choosing Team BigWetAsses. A few of the big time organizers have the same feeling of uneasiness and disdain that most on this forum do about this porn sponsorship deal, but you have to remember this is only happening because of the overwhelming amount of people that went crazy asking for it to happen on twitter.
The fraction of people that were hoping for mainstream esports cyber athletes etc for fighters are justifiably afraid of some possible repercussions here, but the actual playerbase is happier than a pig in shit.
That above video with Joe explaining things is good to watch through for a short summary, but instead of starting at the 16 minute mark where Joe starts up, start watching at around 12:15. You might just see something about the FGC that surprises you.
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