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dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
April 04 2012 01:37 GMT
#341
StripCraft, a metamorphosis of BarCraft would surely be worthy of beer and porn sponsorship. Let's all pretend BarCraft is fun for the whole family, or are some of us acting a little overly sensitive?
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Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
April 04 2012 01:37 GMT
#342
I can't imagine a team with a brazzers logo on their uniform lol.
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Panzamelano
Profile Joined September 2010
Colombia248 Posts
April 04 2012 01:41 GMT
#343
If Brazzers where to sponsor sc2 that would be bad there is no doubt in that.

But they arent.... brazzers is only looking at the FGC (wich is quite different from the sc2 scene) and well... for the FGC its an amazing thing. why? simple, the FGC doesnt have the kind of sponsors the sc2 scene haves (big companies like intel razer and such) so even if some of their sponsors where to withdraw the money of such massive sponsors (wich eclipse even sc2´s sponsors) would be great for the FGC.

TL;DR : Brazzers sponsoring the FGC = good. Brazzers sponsoring the Sc2 scene = Bad. luckily only the first is a reality while the second is just a far fetched possibility
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
April 04 2012 01:48 GMT
#344
We need incontrol to tell us his opinnion, he's been on the porn business, or at least one of his pic was!
Ok.. jokes aside... (yeah, pretty bad joke @-@...) I dont see porn industry messing with e-sports, the same way they wouldn't be on regular sports.
Barackopala
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
April 04 2012 01:51 GMT
#345
There´s a reason porn companies don´t sponsor big leagues. The other companies don´t want to be associated with a porn site.

Also any team sponsored by it would be insta banned from GSL(Porn is illegal in Korea I think). And god forbid, we get a good bug sponsor like in BW(Corporations like Samsung, freaking banks etc...) as I said they will probably would not want to be put in the same level as a freaking porn site,

Anyone thinking this would be good needs to think again.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
April 04 2012 01:54 GMT
#346
I for one, would support any team sponsored by porn. Booze, too. Hell, why not cigarettes, I don't give a fuck.
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
April 04 2012 01:54 GMT
#347
On April 04 2012 10:54 Gheed wrote:
I for one, would support any team sponsored by porn. Booze, too. Hell, why not cigarettes, I don't give a fuck.

Yeah, you dont, other companies do.
Barackopala
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
April 04 2012 01:58 GMT
#348
On April 04 2012 09:19 dekarp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 08:53 zZygote wrote:
I don't know what the big deal is. I mean if a company shows up to a scene that they've never been to before and want to support the community, I can't see how any other sponsors who have the same ambitions of helping the scene grow would want to pull all the work they've done over the years just because a malicious sponsor enters their fold. It seems to me like their afraid of competition.



If you think sponsors just want to help people you know very little about marketing. Whenever I watch something EG related I automatically think of Kingston/Steel Series/Monster. It's called advertising... They sponsor to advertise...

Sure some people may genuinely care and the money return/exposure isn't a big deal, but it's always a part of the deal.


Exactly. This x1000. EG is the best team when it comes to promoting their sponsor. They do so much with their sponsors, advertising them in so many different ways and everyone who watches interviews can recite the order in which all the EG players thank their sponsors "id like to thank intel, steelseries, monster energy, kingston hyperx". But none of these big sponsors want the EG players to say "id like to thank intel, steelseries, BRAZZERS, monster energy". That would sound so bad
Evil Geniuses<3
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
April 04 2012 01:58 GMT
#349
I'd definitely buy a yearly pass if they sponsored a team.
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Treva
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States533 Posts
April 04 2012 02:01 GMT
#350
On April 04 2012 07:20 redviper wrote:
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On April 04 2012 06:58 Treva wrote:
People seem to be ignoring how people outside of our little esports bubble would see this. Whether or not your moral compass would accept this isn't the issue, it's the issue of people on the outside. No one should care about if we accept it or not because most of us would still watch WhiteRa play even if he was sponsored by an abortion clinic.

However, the problem with this comes up when you want other companies to sponsor teams and even if you think it's stupid it's not going to change the fact that companies will probably see it as more of a loss than a gain if they sponsor a team with a porn industry label next to theirs. You can call it bad business or stupid or whatever the hell you want but at the end of the day it IS business and I can guarantee the businesses with money are the businesses with a PR division and almost all, if not all, of them will not be too thrilled to slap their logo/brand/name on a product or website next to a porn company's logo.

It's easier for little Billy to explain to his parents who the companies are and what services/products they provide that have banners and tents at MLG when they aren't porn companies. Imagine an MLG with a Brazzers booth giving out free trial memberships and condoms. People can say "LOL THAT'S SO FUNNY" all they want but the people who have money, reputations and stock holders won't be there yucking it up and giving high fives with you.


A fairly thoughtful post ruined by the hatred of women evidenced by the slur "abortion clinic".

What you mean is a reproductive health establishment like Planned Parenthood? If White-Ra was sponsored by PP he would not only get money but also gain significant audience just be being supported by a truly great establishment like PP.

Ofcourse PP gains nothing from the sponsorship since the demographics don't match. Brazzers might profit because I imagine the demographics are spot on.

But porn is no worse than a tobacco company or an alcohol company sponsoring an event. I regularly watch F1 which is sponsored by tobacco companies. I don't sit and think "oh shit man, Scuderia Marlboro Ferrari is getting millions from Marlboro - I should stop supporting them". I watched the Johnny Walker PGA tour and I didn't think "alcoholism ruins life, and look how many car accidents because of the alcohol". Sponsors don't define the event, the event actually defines the sponsors. It might be bad for a nascent industry like e-sport, but realistically a sponsorship from brazzers is no worse than a sponsorship from Marlboro or Johnny Walker for an established sport.

Also I think Brazzers needs more brand recognition in the target demo. I had to google them.


You're completely right, my example was pretty distasteful. I didn't actually intend to bring up PP and that kind of business my point was being that you could have any sponsor for popular players and people would still watch them. Apologies.
Live it up.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 04 2012 02:02 GMT
#351
that's pretty awesome to be honest. who cares what the outside world thinks? We get to choose how esports is run
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 04 2012 02:06 GMT
#352
if we want a bigger audience than what we already have now, then obviously we cant do this. however, if we dont want to lean towards mainstream, why the hell not?
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
April 04 2012 02:22 GMT
#353
So basically it sums up to this?

People in favour:¨Dude, money is money, and I totally watch porn its cool. And besides we are indie yo.¨
People againt: ¨Dude this can scare future sponsors(and thus future money). If we want SC2 to grow to bigger audiences we have to be careful about our image¨

Really guys, I don´t think many people are against porn. Most of the people against are more concerned about the image that we want to project towards the mainstream.

I don´t know why people have such a hard time understanding that we live in a society and that the image that you project actually matters a lot. This is not a cartoon where people will see how great of a person you are eventually and will love you. 1st impressions matter a lot.

On another note, I was talking about this with a friend who has 2 kids, one 8 and one 9 years old. Dude is not some kind of religious nutjob, nor does he thinks that sex is something that someone should be ashamed of. He saw this and was worried a lot about this. Kids are curious creatures and they do look up stuff they see on the internet. Its a real concern and its not only ultra conservative nutjobs who may be turned off by this.And before someone tries to comment on the hypocrisy of watching highly cartoonish and stylized violence vs his kid being potentially being exposed to porn realize that its completely different.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 02:27:27
April 04 2012 02:27 GMT
#354
On April 04 2012 10:25 honed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 09:40 Sovano wrote:
On April 04 2012 09:19 dekarp wrote:
On April 04 2012 08:53 zZygote wrote:
I don't know what the big deal is. I mean if a company shows up to a scene that they've never been to before and want to support the community, I can't see how any other sponsors who have the same ambitions of helping the scene grow would want to pull all the work they've done over the years just because a malicious sponsor enters their fold. It seems to me like their afraid of competition.



If you think sponsors just want to help people you know very little about marketing. Whenever I watch something EG related I automatically think of Kingston/Steel Series/Monster. It's called advertising... They sponsor to advertise...

Sure some people may genuinely care and the money return/exposure isn't a big deal, but it's always a part of the deal.

Agreed. Even the site we're on right now is sponsored by industries like Razer. Heck that's why TL players all use the razer keyboard, mouse, and mousepad while gaming. Not many companies are going to sponsor e-sports for no profit. This being said, some sponsors may withdraw if something controversial such as Brazzers entering causes issues. This topic alone is proof that it is already pretty controversial between the consumers themselves.

incorrect. the team is sponsored by razer. the website is an independent thing

You know what I mean -_- Team Liquid owns the site whom are sponsored by Razer. Just a poor choice of words on my part.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
April 04 2012 02:31 GMT
#355
Playboy I would be fine with. Brazzers isn't classy. Keep that out of esports.
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
April 04 2012 02:31 GMT
#356
DO PEOPLE SERIOUSLY NOT SEE THE ISSUE HERE??? I apologize for the all caps to start out, but this is absolutely 100% not okay! I hate 'Killing ESPORTS" threads, but this is a real issue. Their is no way anyone should accept a sponsorship from porn!!! Dr Pepper, Razer and others don't want their logo next to BRAZZERS! Nor should you want it on your game!
SC2 Mapmaker
honed
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada482 Posts
April 04 2012 02:34 GMT
#357
On April 04 2012 11:27 Sovano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 10:25 honed wrote:
On April 04 2012 09:40 Sovano wrote:
On April 04 2012 09:19 dekarp wrote:
On April 04 2012 08:53 zZygote wrote:
I don't know what the big deal is. I mean if a company shows up to a scene that they've never been to before and want to support the community, I can't see how any other sponsors who have the same ambitions of helping the scene grow would want to pull all the work they've done over the years just because a malicious sponsor enters their fold. It seems to me like their afraid of competition.



If you think sponsors just want to help people you know very little about marketing. Whenever I watch something EG related I automatically think of Kingston/Steel Series/Monster. It's called advertising... They sponsor to advertise...

Sure some people may genuinely care and the money return/exposure isn't a big deal, but it's always a part of the deal.

Agreed. Even the site we're on right now is sponsored by industries like Razer. Heck that's why TL players all use the razer keyboard, mouse, and mousepad while gaming. Not many companies are going to sponsor e-sports for no profit. This being said, some sponsors may withdraw if something controversial such as Brazzers entering causes issues. This topic alone is proof that it is already pretty controversial between the consumers themselves.

incorrect. the team is sponsored by razer. the website is an independent thing

You know what I mean -_- Team Liquid owns the site whom are sponsored by Razer. Just a poor choice of words on my part.

its not the same thing at all. teamliquid the community site and teamliquid the progaming team are two different things
ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
April 04 2012 02:44 GMT
#358
DO PEOPLE SERIOUSLY NOT SEE THE ISSUE HERE??? I apologize for the all caps to start out, but this is absolutely 100% not okay! I hate 'Killing ESPORTS" threads, but this is a real issue. Their is no way anyone should accept a sponsorship from porn!!! Dr Pepper, Razer and others don't want their logo next to BRAZZERS! Nor should you want it on your game!


I really hope this is a troll, or you need to rethink how you see the porn industry. It's not some dirty backstreet business. It's a huge industry and brazzers is one of it's most popular sites. I see you hate porn for some reason, but I promise it's not the devil. Otherwise 6/10.
It's better aerodynamics for space. - Artosis
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 02:54:57
April 04 2012 02:52 GMT
#359
On April 04 2012 07:49 Kuni wrote:
Pretty nice tho, if you think about it. One little logo changes everything:


[image loading]



*shakes head* Now replace a word as innocuous as brazzer with bangbros and tell us again how nice it is...

On April 04 2012 10:41 Panzamelano wrote:
If Brazzers where to sponsor sc2 that would be bad there is no doubt in that.

But they arent.... brazzers is only looking at the FGC (wich is quite different from the sc2 scene) and well... for the FGC its an amazing thing. why? simple, the FGC doesnt have the kind of sponsors the sc2 scene haves (big companies like intel razer and such) so even if some of their sponsors where to withdraw the money of such massive sponsors (wich eclipse even sc2´s sponsors) would be great for the FGC.

TL;DR : Brazzers sponsoring the FGC = good. Brazzers sponsoring the Sc2 scene = Bad. luckily only the first is a reality while the second is just a far fetched possibility



Having porn companies as sponsors is most likely too limiting. Porn is mainstream due to how far it reaches and just how much money goes into it and is generated is as an industry; but porn is based on business that people prefer to keep private and personal.Putting porn out there in the public space isn't feasible because it is counterproductive in many ways.

Certain types of porn are popular because they are taboo and are thus edgey and alluring. Gaining public social acceptance completely waters down the tone and appeal of this type of porn.

Other types get by by serving the lowest common denominator. Putting porn in the public space increases the risk of exposing children to the wrong impression about how sex should be treated before they can properly develop their understanding of adult relationships.

Porn tastes can be very specific and polarizing. Fetishes you like would make others extremely uncomfortable. Even fetishes you share with others can still make them uncomfortable because being aroused in a crowd of strangers is an unwanted feeling and should be respected. Porn in a public is just going to either anger people or make them avoid that part of the public space completely even if it is their type of porn.

Porn companies becoming public sponsors in the FGC is too much of risk and IMO should be shunned.
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
April 04 2012 03:55 GMT
#360
This thread is a giant advertisement as it is.. please close?
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