NFL 2012 Season - Page 187

On December 19 2012 06:11 QuanticHawk wrote:
Personally, I think it is hilarious that even the retarded Jets recognize that Tebow would be a step back hahaha

On December 19 2012 05:34 QuanticHawk wrote:
I still remember that deadspin piece about him during his rookie year, where statistically he was Jamarcus Russell levels bad hahahaha. It was just romanticized because the team went to the AFC Championship.

He definitely is far from elite, but I always felt htat he could be adaquate if given decent tools around him. I think those first two years should be a wash. Most people don't come go all RG3 on the league, even on good teams. If he had that level of talent around him in his 4th or 5th seasons, I think it is a differnet story. He would still amount to nothing better than an average qb. Can't even really say protect the ball I guess because accuracy was never his thing.

I still think the dearth of talent at the skill positions is way more important, as is the deteroriating line. They need to supplement the two studs they have on there first. Even if they were to bring in a high level FA/trade qb now, I still think that person would have issues because of the lack of support on offense. The Jets really suck at moving the ball in any way.

On December 19 2012 06:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:


I'm just going to pull one quote out of here for you:

"Can't even really say protect the ball I guess because accuracy was never his thing."

He has never even shown the slightest hint at being league average, you know why? Because accuracy isn't his thing. No receiver in the league gets consistently open, and most QBs in the league would love to have Ferguson/Mangold/Moore (He's been playing solidly this year) as their O-Line. It doesn't matter if his receivers can create separation because he can't even throw the route accurately. He has some of the worst pocket presence in the league. He's turned the ball over more than any player over the last two years -- the vast majority being his fault for throwing dumb, inaccurate passes or sitting in the pocket for 10 seconds expecting his line to play like the dynasty Cowboys. He's bad, bad at everything, there is not a single thing good about anything he does or has done besides the notable fluke games that lots of really bad QBs have.

Nothing, not even gutting your defense to make room in the cap to sign some great offensive pieces, was going to fix the issues with their offense. The guy can't even throw it when they stack the box, he can't throw it on play action, he can't throw it outside the pocket. He can't throw! He's Tebow with a shorter windup.

I'm not throwing him under the bus because of his rookie season -- I didn't even bring it up. I brought up the two seasons where you said he was around average and he clearly wasn't, and the following season where he's...well you've seen it. The guy is the biggest turnover machine in the league, and there's nothing better skill position players can do about a QB fumbling and throwing picks every game.

This is the weakest the AFC's been in years. This team makes the playoffs with even a slightly below average QB. Sanchez is literally worse than Weeden right now. Only one team came into the year starting a worse QB, and that's KC. So I guess that's something: He's only the second worst QB in the league named Matt!

On December 19 2012 07:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
You should shit on him more. He is so bad. He's literally worse than Brandon Weeden. You want to talk about supporting casts, then look at that, and tell me how he can possibly fucking manage to be worse than Brandon Weeden.

On December 19 2012 09:13 GTR wrote:
People comparing Sanchez and Weeden.... is everyone forgetting about Gabbert?

On December 19 2012 08:47 DannyJ wrote:
They still won 11 games. It just shows that so much of a QB being good or bad is what scheme or coach is around him. I feel like whoever was QB of the Jets the last fews years, at least if it was a rookie coming in like Sanchez, would have been pretty terrible. Rex Ryan should not be a head football coach.

On December 19 2012 11:51 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:


I really think the problems begin above Rex, with the GM (can't spell his name off the top of my head).

Rex is a pretty good coach, it's just that being a clown doesn't fly when the team is losing.

On December 19 2012 12:10 Damiani wrote:

I agree. I think coaching has a major roll. Alex Smith of the 49ers is living proof that a good coach could make a mediocre QB look decent. If a team fail always target the people up top first. That's management and coaching.