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lafond1H
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada77 Posts
February 07 2012 17:48 GMT
#61
F^Holden from clan Forsaken. I remember him from CAL-I season 6??? or so. He's a professional football player now playing for Bolton Wanderers in the EPL and the US National Team.

http://www.socceram.com/story/0,21644,13873_6847631,00.html
cal p baby
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
February 07 2012 17:50 GMT
#62
Chaox from LoL is masters in SC2 iirc.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 17:51:44
February 07 2012 17:51 GMT
#63
Well, I only know of Vurtne and Drakedog to actually qualify for the progaming part, but that's because I mainly played a Lock in WoW and they were super good. They did not really earn money from WoW I think, but their level of play was great at the time. Drakedog was all the shit back in 2006. And Vurtne was pretty damn impressive with how he slaughtered ppl lol.

Drakedog was so awesome to watch. If you don't know, go check Drakedog 4, it's on Youtube. At the very beginning there's a fight against a Retribution paladin. Now for those who don't know, Ret paladins were pretty much the laughing stock in terms of PvP. Their damage output compared to other classes were pathetic, but they could heal and survive longer.

Anyway, in that fight he gave DD a run for his money. DD killed him just barely, had to use almost all his CD. It was a very fun fight to watch, as how terrible that class was in Vanilla.

Koreans man. Doesn't matter it's Sc or anything, they know how to tear em up.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 07 2012 17:51 GMT
#64
On February 08 2012 02:26 enjoylol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 01:32 NotSorry wrote:
Two of the best mages in the world Vileroze and Melting play LoL now


2 best mages in the world? You obviously aren't going by tourny wins, I wonder what this is based on..


Vile got what 7? rank 1 titles in 1 season on mages still in blues +welfare honor gear

Melting made something retarded like $40-50k selling titles/carries during seasons 1-3, more than most pros got from tournament+sponsors at the time
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Asol
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden109 Posts
February 07 2012 18:02 GMT
#65
On February 08 2012 01:36 Paperplane wrote:
Oh yeah I remember that. They already declared one team the winner and started the award ceremony. Then aAa complained and one of the refs saw they were like 10 seconds overtime. So they had to replay the last game and aAa won.


Just gonna put a firm end to these beliefs:

Being someone who actually saw it, and also followed the huge cluster-fuck that was the thread on AJ (WoW forum) - aAa had won the game on DMG several minutes before they died. It wasn't seconds, it was MINUTES. The seconds were just a rumour / failcommunication. :p So no drama there, if I remember correctly.

I know of several people who play other games who sued to be pro in wow / cs =P Can't mention them though or they'll murder me o0
Quote what?
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
February 07 2012 18:03 GMT
#66
I was wondering the exact same thing! It would be nice to find out what they are doing these days...
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
OriginalSin
Profile Joined September 2011
3 Posts
February 07 2012 18:04 GMT
#67
Does anyone know what Zalmah is doing now ? (The commentator who did stuff with 2gd at ESL)
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 07 2012 18:07 GMT
#68
I know some of them are playing Bloodline champions quite a bit. Or passing time on SWOTOR while waiting for GW2.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
February 07 2012 18:10 GMT
#69
isnt hydra and kalamist playing on arena tournament ?
Zilea still plays WoW and SC2 - Master
Grim is playing SC2 - Master
Neilyo - still playing WoW
Pookz - still WoW
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5489 Posts
February 07 2012 18:10 GMT
#70
Wow doesn't have progamers just wannabe progamers.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
February 07 2012 18:11 GMT
#71
On February 08 2012 02:20 Matsumoto wrote:
anyone knows what Buddhist is doing?
i fucking loved his rogue videos <3


He played SC2 for a while at release, got banned from TL for shitposting I think.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=204702

That's not him posting the subject, but it has him listed as a guest and a link to his SC stream!
clik
Profile Joined May 2010
United States319 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 18:20:26
February 07 2012 18:14 GMT
#72
It's kind of sad to be a pro gamer with the way the masses move from game to game. From Quake to CS to WC3, to WoW, Halo to COD etc. etc. One minute everyone supports you, the tournaments, the fans, the big organizations and then bam out of nowhere everyone is gone, tournaments drop you, fans don't care about you. They are all onto a new game calling the game you're a pro at all sorts of negative names and praising the new game they are all hyped up over. Were seeing it now with League of Legends and all the pros of LoL will be left in the dark with their hands in the air once the collective drones move onto the next big "esport" game.

Sorry for the depressing post.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 07 2012 18:17 GMT
#73
Wonder if orangemarmalade and numberone are playing Sc2? Honestly they were the only good players in wow and leagues above every other "tournnament player"
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
February 07 2012 18:21 GMT
#74
Shit changes fast

the fans still care btw
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
February 07 2012 18:23 GMT
#75
I moved this to Sports & Games.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Tur
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil263 Posts
February 07 2012 18:24 GMT
#76
What about Sodah? He was one of my favorite players, since he started to play both Priest and Druid at tourneys.

Wasn't Elementz from LoL a WoW player too, i am not sure.
Beorning
Profile Joined June 2011
United States243 Posts
February 07 2012 18:25 GMT
#77
On February 08 2012 03:14 clik wrote:
It's kind of sad to be a pro gamer with the way the masses move from game to game. From Quake to CS to WC3, to WoW, Halo to COD etc. etc. One minute everyone supports you, the tournaments, the fans, the big organizations and then bam out of nowhere everyone is gone, tournaments drop you, fans don't care about you. They are all onto a new game calling the game you're a pro at all sorts of negative names and praising the new game they are all hyped up over. Were seeing it now with League of Legends and all the pros of LoL will be left in the dark with their hands in the air once the collective drones move onto the next big "esport" game.


Blizzard killed competitive WoW with rated battlegrounds and "balancing" for them. They for the most part were just sick of trying to balance a game that could not be balanced, there are just too many abilities. Furthermore the only reason WoW ever had a competitive scene with sponsors and a place at MLG was because there were 12 million people playing it. Valve and Riot's games only have competitive modes, and WoW's was an experiment that failed. If I remember correctly they even said that "arena was a mistake" right before they killed it in Cata.
clik
Profile Joined May 2010
United States319 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 18:30:08
February 07 2012 18:29 GMT
#78
On February 08 2012 03:25 Beorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 03:14 clik wrote:
It's kind of sad to be a pro gamer with the way the masses move from game to game. From Quake to CS to WC3, to WoW, Halo to COD etc. etc. One minute everyone supports you, the tournaments, the fans, the big organizations and then bam out of nowhere everyone is gone, tournaments drop you, fans don't care about you. They are all onto a new game calling the game you're a pro at all sorts of negative names and praising the new game they are all hyped up over. Were seeing it now with League of Legends and all the pros of LoL will be left in the dark with their hands in the air once the collective drones move onto the next big "esport" game.


Blizzard killed competitive WoW with rated battlegrounds and "balancing" for them. They for the most part were just sick of trying to balance a game that could not be balanced, there are just too many abilities. Furthermore the only reason WoW ever had a competitive scene with sponsors and a place at MLG was because there were 12 million people playing it. Valve and Riot's games only have competitive modes, and WoW's was an experiment that failed. If I remember correctly they even said that "arena was a mistake" right before they killed it in Cata.


I understand why something like WoW arena was killed. That's not really my point though. Pro gamers from different games such as CS, Quake, Halo even Brood War, and it will happen with League of Legends in the future, all take the same fall because of the way people move from game to game.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 07 2012 18:30 GMT
#79
On February 08 2012 03:25 Beorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 03:14 clik wrote:
It's kind of sad to be a pro gamer with the way the masses move from game to game. From Quake to CS to WC3, to WoW, Halo to COD etc. etc. One minute everyone supports you, the tournaments, the fans, the big organizations and then bam out of nowhere everyone is gone, tournaments drop you, fans don't care about you. They are all onto a new game calling the game you're a pro at all sorts of negative names and praising the new game they are all hyped up over. Were seeing it now with League of Legends and all the pros of LoL will be left in the dark with their hands in the air once the collective drones move onto the next big "esport" game.


Blizzard killed competitive WoW with rated battlegrounds and "balancing" for them. They for the most part were just sick of trying to balance a game that could not be balanced, there are just too many abilities. Furthermore the only reason WoW ever had a competitive scene with sponsors and a place at MLG was because there were 12 million people playing it. Valve and Riot's games only have competitive modes, and WoW's was an experiment that failed. If I remember correctly they even said that "arena was a mistake" right before they killed it in Cata.


Not really true.

What was a mistake was attempting to balance for PvE, RBG's and Arena all at the same time.

For people to hate on WoW pro's they'd have to also ignore GW1, which was one of the first big eSports.

If WoW had just made a PvP only game, and only balanced for that, it would have been really fun and competitive. But as it was, some retarded raid change would break the entire competitive meta, and that is just completely unacceptable for a competitive game.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
February 07 2012 18:33 GMT
#80
On February 08 2012 02:51 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 02:26 enjoylol wrote:
On February 08 2012 01:32 NotSorry wrote:
Two of the best mages in the world Vileroze and Melting play LoL now


2 best mages in the world? You obviously aren't going by tourny wins, I wonder what this is based on..


Vile got what 7? rank 1 titles in 1 season on mages still in blues +welfare honor gear
The comps Vileroze played was never about survivability or damage, just ridiculous amounts of CC his comps could pull off during S8.
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