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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
February 06 2012 08:10 GMT
#841
Meh. If you take away the playoff scenario as it stands, you lose a lot of division drama. Also, if rules were adjusted so the better team always wins, again, it would be boring.

Don't get me wrong, IMO Ravens should be in the SB for sure over the Pats, but hell I won't complain (too much).
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shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 08:11:58
February 06 2012 08:11 GMT
#842
On February 06 2012 17:02 EvilTeletubby wrote:
I'll never understand what the "Our sports team lost = WE MUST RIOT!!" mental leap is.


hey hey hey

rioters didn't give a shit about sports in vancouver. the people who initiated it didn't care about the game, they just did it for their own purposes. they were like gang members or something. people just joined in because everyone else was doing it :s

anyways im amazed people didn't talk about that last play. the ball was like 2 inches in front of gronkowski. if he didn't have that ankle i'm sure he would've caught that. i'm still happy the giants won though lol.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
February 06 2012 08:12 GMT
#843
On February 06 2012 17:11 shawster wrote:
if he didn't have that ankle i'm sure he would've caught that. i'm still happy the giants won though lol.


If he didn't have that ankle, Pats probably would have won the game much earlier.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
February 06 2012 08:15 GMT
#844
On February 06 2012 17:12 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 17:11 shawster wrote:
if he didn't have that ankle i'm sure he would've caught that. i'm still happy the giants won though lol.


If he didn't have that ankle, Pats probably would have won the game much earlier.

Yeah, Giants contained him pretty easy as it is...

as for the Riots thing, college campus in the middle of Boston and they shut down parts of it right after halftime (planned). Went outside after out of curiosity and there were just dozens of cops out there waiting for shit to pop off lol.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 06 2012 08:16 GMT
#845
On February 06 2012 17:10 LF9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 17:00 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2012 16:55 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On February 06 2012 16:41 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2012 16:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
That wasn't a miracle catch. It was a well thrown ball and a well made catch on a well designed route. Patriots got plain outplayed.

Any hey another Manning gets a ring. Vicariously affirm Archie Manning wooooo

What are you even talking about? That was a really even game, and it came down to a couple of plays and blown opportunities for the Pats to lose.


Isn't that how you can describe a lot of football games? I mean seriously, rewind back one series vs Baltimore. That was seriously Baltimore's game to lose, Pat's were pretty outplayed then too but just 1-2 key plays makes all the difference in the NFL.

Haha yea, that's how you describe a lot of playoff games when two even teams are matched up, an even game is played and then it comes down to couple plays. We escaped right by the Ravens, I thought we were going to lose for sure. Flacco played better than Tom for three quarters (who had an awful game, in his own words).

On February 06 2012 17:00 LF9 wrote:
The Ravens really should have been playing in the SB instead of the Patriots in the first place. Lee Evans caught a touchdown pass, and the officials for some reason (I guess they were ordered to?) decided to rule it incomplete. But the Ravens are the real AFC champions, and had they been playing, the Giants wouldn't be the champions right now. I guess the NFL decided it had to intervene and make sure two big market teams were playing in the super bowl.

Okay that's just false. It wasn't a touchdown, they ruled it incomplete because it says so in the rulebook. This is just a stupid argument. Stop stating your opinions (or wishes) like they are facts.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/03/nfl-will-not-make-changes-to-the-calvin-johnson-rule/1

You should probably go watch the play before you say anything. He catches the ball, one foot hits, the next foot hits, then it is stripped. If you read the actual rules it would be a touchdown. Saying "they ruled it incomplete because it says so in the rulebook" doesn't make any sense. I don't think you even know what game I'm talking about, let alone what play.

You should probably read the article I linked before responding.I watched the game, I know exactly what play you are talking about. Why does it not make sense? It was incomplete because it says that you need to maintain complete possession in the rulebook. No idea how you jump from that to me not knowing what game you are talking about. Good lord lol.

"He did not maintain complete possession of the ball through the entirety of his catching motion.

"That play will still be incomplete," Mara, a member of the competition committee, told Newsday, via PFT.

"If you read the rule, it's not a catch. The reason it's not a catch is you've got to control the ball when you hit the ground. It makes it easier to officiate. It's a bright line that you can draw."

Evans did not mantain complete possession of the ball before it was knocked out. Touching your feet on the ground is one thing, having a complete possession of the ball is another. He didn't have the ball in complete possession before it was knocked out.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 08:34:54
February 06 2012 08:24 GMT
#846
On February 06 2012 17:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 16:58 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2012 16:50 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On February 06 2012 16:41 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2012 16:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
That wasn't a miracle catch. It was a well thrown ball and a well made catch on a well designed route. Patriots got plain outplayed.

Any hey another Manning gets a ring. Vicariously affirm Archie Manning wooooo

What are you even talking about? That was a really even game, and it came down to a couple of plays and blown opportunities for the Pats to lose. I am not sure if you are talking about that specific play or the game in general. That play, I mean yea, the Pats had good coverage but the throw/catch were just too good obviously. It was actually thrown into two close double-coverage, if I remember correctly.

It was by all means really close. Staying in bounds by a couple of inches. But perfect throw from Eli and clearly he deserves credit. The drop by Welker is going to make me lose sleep.


I was talking about that play specifically, though I do think the Giants outplayed the Patriots in general (They had them dead to rights when Bradshaw sat down on accident in the endzone)

The thing is, you called it a miracle catch like the Tyree one -- no way, no how. He caught your safety too far underneath on a go route and placed it on a dime, right where and when Manningham was expecting it. The Tyree miracle catch was a completely broken play and a heaved up prayer that had every bit the same chance of being intercepted as caught, on a play where the Patriots had the Giants beat on both coverage and on the line. The first Pats vs Giants game was honestly a flukey win, this one was not. The game was boring but it was two good teams playing pretty well and the Giants played better.

Hmm yea I am fine with your definition of a miracle catch. I didn't really mean to suggest that it was some crazy flukey play. It was an excellent play on the Giants part, but a difficult throw and an extremely catch nonetheless. Shows how good Eli was during that drive. That's what I meant, and I was flabbergasted when that play was made.

I am going to disagree with you that the Giants outplayed the Patriots in general. It was a very even game in my eyes. The Giants played "better" in the sense that they made the right plays when it mattered the most. I can already count so many blown opportunities and dumb mistakes on the Patriots part, whereas I can't say the same for the Giants. The Ninkovich penalty after getting the stop in the fourth quarter, 12 men on the field after the fumble, Welker dropped pass, Hernandez dropped pass, and so on. So yea, like I said, Giants did a better job in terms of avoiding these mistakes and making the right plays at the right times. But when we are talking about it from a pure offensive and defensive standpoint, I would say it was even. (And why the game came down to the wire)


First down run called back for holding deep that turned a field goal into a punt, 12 men on the field to keep patriots drive alive at the end, couple of fumbles that costed yardage. Probably some more I'm forgetting, but it's all moot as everything you're listing is reasons WHY the Patriots played worse. You're making my argument for me -- a team that makes a lot of mistakes played worse than a team that didn't.

The difference in the game was pretty much that Gronk got hurt directly before the game, who had carried them almost as much as Brady during the regular season (Giants had tons of injuries but had the core group that got them there). That and the ill advised prayer heave Brady had that turned into an interception.

Giants offense played similarly well and I'd say their defense was much better in the sense that they forced Tom to play a little below himself.

Well yea, the Giants did enough to win so they clearly ended up being the better than the team that lost. Fewer mistakes, big plays when it matters. But all I am saying is that these two were evenly matched teams, who played an even game for the most part. Few plays go the Pats' way, and they could have been the better team standing. The game coming down to the end shows what I mean. Yes, Giants were the better team in the end but there's a difference from that and saying they simply outplayed the Pats.

Pats offensive line actually did a fine job against the Giants defense. Tom had good protection, maybe even slightly better than what Eli had today. So I wouldn't say Giants defense outplayed Pats defense based on that reasoning alone. But the Pats secondary? Horrible.

Gronk was obviously a huge difference. They played single coverage on him the entire game, which would have been a disaster if Gronk wasn't hurt. After all, Gronk makes the game a lot easier for Tom by attracting double-coverage and just being a huge, reliable target in general. Tom still played all right, obviously with the exceptions of that safety and that stupid interception (a healthy Gronk might have had a chance at that).
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
February 06 2012 08:49 GMT
#847
I actually thought this one of the best Super Bowls in the past 15 or so years alongside the first Giants/Patriots, Panthers/Patriots, Rams/Patriots, Titans/Rams and Cardinals/Steelers. People say that there wasn't offensive explosions, but the efficiency that Brady and Manning threw with was outstanding. Shit, Brady broke a record for going sixteen straight passes completed, scoring two TD's on long drives in a short amount of time. Manning started the game with a perfect 10/10 and ended the game as clutch as ever.

If you want a bad Super Bowl, go watch Steelers/Seahawks, Bears/Colts or Ravens/Giants. Those made me want to die. This game was awesome if you were interested in the story behind the game. This was Brady's chance to cement his name alongside Montana as the #1 or #2 best quarterback of all-time. With how he was going in the 3rd, with his 16 straight pass completions, it looked like it was over. Then he got injured by a pass rush and didn't look the same.

With this win, Eli is going to be a Hall-of-Famer and and is one up on his big brother. Something that no one thought would ever happen in a million years when Manning first started in New Yorkj.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
February 06 2012 10:19 GMT
#848
I blame the Pats defense. I cringed nearly every damn play when Manning just zipped passes straight to barely covered or even uncovered receivers. It was horrible.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 06 2012 11:29 GMT
#849
Epic superbowl, half-time show wasn't too bad (except Nicki Minaj showed up, I hate her with a passion), game was decided in the last minute, lots of good plays. I thought the Giants won by luck in XLII, but this one changes my opinion on them
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
February 06 2012 11:55 GMT
#850
On February 06 2012 20:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Epic superbowl, half-time show wasn't too bad (except Nicki Minaj showed up, I hate her with a passion), game was decided in the last minute, lots of good plays. I thought the Giants won by luck in XLII, but this one changes my opinion on them

Yeah I thought it was a good superbowl too. There wasn't many "explosive" plays which perhaps to some people made it seem a bit dull but it was so close and precise throughout that it just felt really tense from start to finish. You never knew who was going to win until the final ball was batted down.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
aLoHa
Profile Joined February 2012
1 Post
February 06 2012 12:07 GMT
#851
where can i download a torrent of this superbowl game?

User was banned for this post.
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Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 06 2012 12:26 GMT
#852
On February 06 2012 21:07 aLoHa wrote:
where can i download a torrent of this superbowl game?


WoW. Epic first post.

On topic:

Stayed up to 4 in the morning to watch the game, and i wasnt disapointed. I'm not so much of a American Football fan, but this game was just great. It went really back and forth, lots of great play, and there was no way to tell the winner until the last minute.

Really worth to stay up late !
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
February 06 2012 12:29 GMT
#853
Excellent game, super glad that Giants took it.
On a side note: the commercials were god awful for the most part. Oh well
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
GGOPikachu
Profile Joined August 2011
33 Posts
February 06 2012 12:36 GMT
#854
On February 06 2012 17:10 LF9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 17:00 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2012 16:55 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On February 06 2012 16:41 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2012 16:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
That wasn't a miracle catch. It was a well thrown ball and a well made catch on a well designed route. Patriots got plain outplayed.

Any hey another Manning gets a ring. Vicariously affirm Archie Manning wooooo

What are you even talking about? That was a really even game, and it came down to a couple of plays and blown opportunities for the Pats to lose.


Isn't that how you can describe a lot of football games? I mean seriously, rewind back one series vs Baltimore. That was seriously Baltimore's game to lose, Pat's were pretty outplayed then too but just 1-2 key plays makes all the difference in the NFL.

Haha yea, that's how you describe a lot of playoff games when two even teams are matched up, an even game is played and then it comes down to couple plays. We escaped right by the Ravens, I thought we were going to lose for sure. Flacco played better than Tom for three quarters (who had an awful game, in his own words).

On February 06 2012 17:00 LF9 wrote:
The Ravens really should have been playing in the SB instead of the Patriots in the first place. Lee Evans caught a touchdown pass, and the officials for some reason (I guess they were ordered to?) decided to rule it incomplete. But the Ravens are the real AFC champions, and had they been playing, the Giants wouldn't be the champions right now. I guess the NFL decided it had to intervene and make sure two big market teams were playing in the super bowl.

Okay that's just false. It wasn't a touchdown, they ruled it incomplete because it says so in the rulebook. This is just a stupid argument. Stop stating your opinions (or wishes) like they are facts.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/03/nfl-will-not-make-changes-to-the-calvin-johnson-rule/1

You should probably go watch the play before you say anything. He catches the ball, one foot hits, the next foot hits, then it is stripped. If you read the actual rules it would be a touchdown. Saying "they ruled it incomplete because it says so in the rulebook" doesn't make any sense. I don't think you even know what game I'm talking about, let alone what play.


Uh, are you stupid or something? If it really was a touchdown the way you said it was, then the officials would've called it that. Obviously, it wasn't, as they reviewed the play, and you can see that the player did not maintain possession. Why are you trying to stir something up that you can't win?
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 12:49:18
February 06 2012 12:49 GMT
#855
You got your colors wrong, Giants should be terran because NFC is blue and AFC is red. Cool topic though
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Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
February 06 2012 12:57 GMT
#856
On February 06 2012 17:12 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 17:11 shawster wrote:
if he didn't have that ankle i'm sure he would've caught that. i'm still happy the giants won though lol.


If he didn't have that ankle, Pats probably would have won the game much earlier.


Bernard Pollard, Super Bowl MVP?
I drop suckas like Plinko
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
February 06 2012 13:47 GMT
#857
This game was like a terran making one reaper and bunker rushing the zerg, while the zerg just says ok and makes speedlings, then terran makes 3 factory hellion follow up, but when the harass arrives the zerg had mutas, so terran player opts for thor, but then Eli got enough of an economic lead, and good clock positioning at the end when he hit hive tech and was able to secure a w.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
February 06 2012 13:57 GMT
#858
That was a really entertaining game! What a nail-biter! Too bad the wrong team won in the end
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RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 14:43:35
February 06 2012 14:00 GMT
#859
Great game.

Not a big Madonna fan.. but that halftime show will be remebered for a long time.

Biggest complaint... Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth sucked the ever loving life out of the broadcast.

2nd biggest complaint... the Welker drop and the crap he was taking after the game.

That was a freaking incredible effort to go after that ball.

He had to break stride, jump off the wong foot, spin, reach behind himself and get his hands on the ball.

Brady throws the ball to Welker's front sholder and underneath his chin... it's a touchdown. Phillips is not coming over in time to get him.

The two underneath defenders had let him go.. and Phillips would have been 7-10 yards away if Welker hadn't had to basically stop/jump/spin for the ball.



Yeah. Wes welker does get paid $3 million to make that catch.

But Brady gets $20 million to make the throw.

Mania[K]al
Profile Joined May 2009
United States359 Posts
February 06 2012 14:35 GMT
#860
On February 06 2012 16:49 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 14:44 Mania[K]al wrote:
On February 06 2012 14:37 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On February 06 2012 14:16 Durp wrote:

My heart broke inside seeing Ballard trying to run on the sideline to (presumably) prove to his trainers he could still go, only to see him hit the turf in agony as he knee gave way.

Oh, I yelled at the TV and impulsively called him an idiot. When you saw him go down on the field, you could tell it was bad. So a couple minutes later, he tests himself not by walking, not by trotting, but full on running. He probably made it a hell of a lot worse. Yeah, I know it's the super bowl and all, but that was just... derpy.



Yeah everyone should just give up.

Nah, people should just be hyperbolic and dramatic.

Seriously though, I get where youre coming from but taking a break and letting yourself heal is not giving up. Its the opposite of giving up. Its called being patient and using your brain instead of acting on emotion.



I completely understand. When you live your life for this one moment youre gonna do everything you can to make sure you sit down on the sidelane so you dont get an infection in that cut on your finger.
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