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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
December 18 2011 08:24 GMT
#721
sorry, but im totally clueless about ricky rubio.
i have a harmless question, what is so special about him?
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Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 18 2011 08:44 GMT
#722
his name is an alliteration. :p
seriously he has so much hype. I wish him good luck
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
December 18 2011 11:26 GMT
#723
On December 18 2011 17:24 icystorage wrote:
sorry, but im totally clueless about ricky rubio.
i have a harmless question, what is so special about him?
played pro in acb (spanish div 1 bball, 2nd best in the world) since he was 14 and was roundly praised by a bunch of people which generated a bunch of hype and mystique. also played olympics in 08' and played pretty well vs team usa which kinda confirmed the hype for many (based on a one game sample of course). basically he's been on the radar forever and is still pretty young

people say he's a thinking player on the level of kidd / nash, he's really tall for a pg at 6'4 and has a 6'9 wingspan. he's generally proven himself a good playmaker and defender, and weak shooter / scorer
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
LonelyCat
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom130 Posts
December 18 2011 12:19 GMT
#724
On December 18 2011 17:24 icystorage wrote:
sorry, but im totally clueless about ricky rubio.
i have a harmless question, what is so special about him?


He has good court vision and makes passes that maybe look too flashy but they get the job done too, (eg. the behind the back pass out of a double team to tolliver for 3 last night). I guess it depends if he can learn to shoot and if he can keep his TOs low as a wolves PG :p. Even as a wolves fan I'm not 100% certain he's going to be the franchise player we need him to be, but if not at least i get to watch flashy passes eh?
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
December 18 2011 12:47 GMT
#725
Amundson being in the midst of being traded for Rush
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 13:12:24
December 18 2011 13:11 GMT
#726
On December 18 2011 17:16 VENDIZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 12:43 slyboogie wrote:
On December 18 2011 11:16 KOFgokuon wrote:
On December 18 2011 04:29 Jibba wrote:
On December 18 2011 04:17 a176 wrote:
knicks running amare-melo-chandler, pretty scary

It'll be exciting on offense, but one great defensive center doesn't make up for defensive deficiencies at the other positions and D'antonio definitely won't be able to coach it. Plus their bench is miserable.

Assuming no injuries, it's like a conference semifinals team. Maybe conference finals team, at best.


He also doesn't have the PG or the shooters to really succeed in his offense...plus he's going to run amare into the ground with this shortened schedule.


But David Berri says Landry Fields is the most productive player in the league!

But yeah, they really need a ball handler in that offense and I don't really see one.


Perhaps Baron Davis will show up in NYC in the near future (given he goes down in salary)?


Pretty sure he had back surgery so I doubt he'll play at all this season.
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 18 2011 16:09 GMT
#727
BD supposed to sign with NYC on Monday supposedly..
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 20:12:39
December 18 2011 20:12 GMT
#728
On December 18 2011 20:26 x2fst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 17:24 icystorage wrote:
sorry, but im totally clueless about ricky rubio.
i have a harmless question, what is so special about him?
played pro in acb (spanish div 1 bball, 2nd best in the world) since he was 14 and was roundly praised by a bunch of people which generated a bunch of hype and mystique. also played olympics in 08' and played pretty well vs team usa which kinda confirmed the hype for many (based on a one game sample of course). basically he's been on the radar forever and is still pretty young

people say he's a thinking player on the level of kidd / nash, he's really tall for a pg at 6'4 and has a 6'9 wingspan. he's generally proven himself a good playmaker and defender, and weak shooter / scorer



Actually, there was a lot of doubt about him just in the last 2 years. Everyone was saying he was going to be a bust because he didn't have any outside shot. Check his stats he only averaged under 5 points, but he claims he's all about winning so the stats apparently don't matter to him, which is true to a certain extent.
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 18 2011 20:51 GMT
#729
On December 19 2011 05:12 BalliSLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 20:26 x2fst wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:24 icystorage wrote:
sorry, but im totally clueless about ricky rubio.
i have a harmless question, what is so special about him?
played pro in acb (spanish div 1 bball, 2nd best in the world) since he was 14 and was roundly praised by a bunch of people which generated a bunch of hype and mystique. also played olympics in 08' and played pretty well vs team usa which kinda confirmed the hype for many (based on a one game sample of course). basically he's been on the radar forever and is still pretty young

people say he's a thinking player on the level of kidd / nash, he's really tall for a pg at 6'4 and has a 6'9 wingspan. he's generally proven himself a good playmaker and defender, and weak shooter / scorer



Actually, there was a lot of doubt about him just in the last 2 years. Everyone was saying he was going to be a bust because he didn't have any outside shot. Check his stats he only averaged under 5 points, but he claims he's all about winning so the stats apparently don't matter to him, which is true to a certain extent.


Led his team to win 7 of the last 8 games from behind in the 4th quarter/OT, even though his stats were abysmal. The ultimate winner. Wait, that's Tim Tebow.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 18 2011 21:02 GMT
#730
RR and TT?
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Timurid
Profile Joined April 2011
Guyana (French)656 Posts
December 18 2011 21:13 GMT
#731
bulls are going to win it all! MVP!!!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13294 Posts
December 19 2011 01:41 GMT
#732
On December 19 2011 05:51 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 05:12 BalliSLife wrote:
On December 18 2011 20:26 x2fst wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:24 icystorage wrote:
sorry, but im totally clueless about ricky rubio.
i have a harmless question, what is so special about him?
played pro in acb (spanish div 1 bball, 2nd best in the world) since he was 14 and was roundly praised by a bunch of people which generated a bunch of hype and mystique. also played olympics in 08' and played pretty well vs team usa which kinda confirmed the hype for many (based on a one game sample of course). basically he's been on the radar forever and is still pretty young

people say he's a thinking player on the level of kidd / nash, he's really tall for a pg at 6'4 and has a 6'9 wingspan. he's generally proven himself a good playmaker and defender, and weak shooter / scorer



Actually, there was a lot of doubt about him just in the last 2 years. Everyone was saying he was going to be a bust because he didn't have any outside shot. Check his stats he only averaged under 5 points, but he claims he's all about winning so the stats apparently don't matter to him, which is true to a certain extent.


Led his team to win 7 of the last 8 games from behind in the 4th quarter/OT, even though his stats were abysmal. The ultimate winner. Wait, that's Tim Tebow.


He's a terrible shooter, but his court vision is pretty strong. He creates really well for his teammates.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
December 19 2011 01:47 GMT
#733
which is enough to ask for concerning a pg.. but then again maybe not in this era where pgs seem to be leading scorers on many teams ;o
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 19 2011 01:50 GMT
#734
On December 19 2011 10:47 BlueRoyaL wrote:
which is enough to ask for concerning a pg.. but then again maybe not in this era where pgs seem to be leading scorers on many teams ;o


You need to be a credible shooting threat otherwise the athletic defenders in the NBA can lay back in you passing lanes. Steve Nash is a threat to shoot 50% from anywhere on the court if you give him a big cushion which combined with his ability to probe the interior of the defense opens up passing opportunities. Other players like Westbrook and Rose have a credible threat to go to the basket (along with evolving outside games) which makes them all the more difficult to defend.
Freeeeeeedom
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 17:29:34
December 19 2011 17:29 GMT
#735
i dont think its quite fair to compare rubio to nash, rose, etc

more like wall, irving, et all? and in that case, he's definitely a contender, atleast, from what we've seen. i drafted him for my deep fantasy league hoping he'll put up numbers atleast comparable to the other rookie/low tier PGs, as im sure thats only what people really expect from him
starleague forever
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
December 19 2011 18:21 GMT
#736
I know it's been talked to death and is sort of old news by now, but I found this article to sum up my opinion of the whole Chris Paul debacle very well. I know that the fact it was written by a Lakers fan will make some people roll their eyes, but I think it's well-written and pretty fair all around.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/24360/thoughts-and-misgivings-about-the-chris-paul-deal
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 19 2011 20:47 GMT
#737
I have not gotten to see Griffen play much in the NBA (seeing as I am sane and live in the Eastern Time Zone), but is he really as good as the hype. From what people say he is the next Karl Malone, which would be awesome, if true, but from what I remember from his college days I didn't like him nearly that much (although he was the best player in the draft and deserved to be the #1 pick).
Freeeeeeedom
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 20:55:44
December 19 2011 20:47 GMT
#738
On December 19 2011 10:50 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 10:47 BlueRoyaL wrote:
which is enough to ask for concerning a pg.. but then again maybe not in this era where pgs seem to be leading scorers on many teams ;o


You need to be a credible shooting threat otherwise the athletic defenders in the NBA can lay back in you passing lanes. Steve Nash is a threat to shoot 50% from anywhere on the court if you give him a big cushion which combined with his ability to probe the interior of the defense opens up passing opportunities. Other players like Westbrook and Rose have a credible threat to go to the basket (along with evolving outside games) which makes them all the more difficult to defend.


Well.. do you see Rajon Rondo as a credible shooting threat? He barely hits uncontested mid-range jumpers

Rubio is the definition of a pass-first PG, which I think will fit nicely into the Timberwolves' lineup, they've got at least three valid scoring threats now in Love, Beasley & Williams.

On December 20 2011 05:47 cLutZ wrote:
I have not gotten to see Griffen play much in the NBA (seeing as I am sane and live in the Eastern Time Zone), but is he really as good as the hype. From what people say he is the next Karl Malone, which would be awesome, if true, but from what I remember from his college days I didn't like him nearly that much (although he was the best player in the draft and deserved to be the #1 pick).


I'm one of those who live in Europe and is far from sane (so I watched every Clippers game last season) :D
Few players can live up to their hype, to be honest. But if his rookie year was any indication, he'll be an All-Star selection for the rest of his career, and that's saying something. If Blake Griffin is the next Mailman? Not sure.. It's a pretty insane comparison if you ask me, not because Griffin can't become really really good, but because Karl Malone is a god damn hero at the PF position. 2nd All-Time Scoring, 1st All-Time Def. Rebs, two-time MVP, 11 All-NBA first team selections, the list goes on..

You should toy with your sanity for one night to watch him play though, he's easily one of the most exciting players to join the NBA in a while!
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
December 19 2011 20:51 GMT
#739
On December 20 2011 05:47 cLutZ wrote:
I have not gotten to see Griffen play much in the NBA (seeing as I am sane and live in the Eastern Time Zone), but is he really as good as the hype. From what people say he is the next Karl Malone, which would be awesome, if true, but from what I remember from his college days I didn't like him nearly that much (although he was the best player in the draft and deserved to be the #1 pick).


His game is not like Malone's, unless he learns that PnR 18 footer, which would make him the best power forward in the league for a long time. He's more like pre-injury Amare but yes, his game is a bit different than his Oklahoma days. More jumping.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 19 2011 20:55 GMT
#740
On December 20 2011 05:47 VENDIZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 10:50 cLutZ wrote:
On December 19 2011 10:47 BlueRoyaL wrote:
which is enough to ask for concerning a pg.. but then again maybe not in this era where pgs seem to be leading scorers on many teams ;o


You need to be a credible shooting threat otherwise the athletic defenders in the NBA can lay back in you passing lanes. Steve Nash is a threat to shoot 50% from anywhere on the court if you give him a big cushion which combined with his ability to probe the interior of the defense opens up passing opportunities. Other players like Westbrook and Rose have a credible threat to go to the basket (along with evolving outside games) which makes them all the more difficult to defend.


Well.. do you see Rajon Rondo as a credible shooting threat? He barely hits uncontested mid-range jumpers

Rubio is the definition of a pass-first PG, which I think will fit nicely into the Timberwolves' lineup, they've got at least three valid scoring threats now in Love, Beasley & Williams.


Rondo penetrates very well and generates a fair amount of his offense (or offensive stats) from his defense. His team is also very talented. The same can not be said of Rubio. We'll see how Rondo does once his team isn't 3 future HoFs for an entire season (not counting his rookie ofc). Compared to Nash who is pretty much Phoenix because of his abilities to shoot, and distribute to average role players.

In any case, what I think clutz was trying to say that Rubio falls under neither a credible shooting threat or a blow past you kind of PG. He needs at least one of those 2 to be considered potential and he will need to develop a credible shot, only that much is certain.
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