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VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
December 19 2011 21:51 GMT
#741
Peja Stojakovic has retired, at the age of 34.

Sacramento Kings has voided Chuck Hayes' contract due to failing his physical.

Baron Davis is officially signed by NYK.

And LAC plays LAL tonight in the preseason (so excited!)
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 19 2011 22:13 GMT
#742
RIP peja, will always remember him in his Kings days.

And excited for LAL-LAC games also!..though main guys will prob not play that much
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
December 19 2011 23:10 GMT
#743
Clips waived Willie Warren. I always thought that he'd develop into some kind of decent change of pace guard. The specter of crappy shot selection and turnovers have claimed another victim in the NBA.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
December 19 2011 23:17 GMT
#744
Chuck Hayes fails physical due to heart problems poor guy contract voided
aka Sowelulol
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 19 2011 23:33 GMT
#745
On December 20 2011 05:51 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 05:47 cLutZ wrote:
I have not gotten to see Griffen play much in the NBA (seeing as I am sane and live in the Eastern Time Zone), but is he really as good as the hype. From what people say he is the next Karl Malone, which would be awesome, if true, but from what I remember from his college days I didn't like him nearly that much (although he was the best player in the draft and deserved to be the #1 pick).


His game is not like Malone's, unless he learns that PnR 18 footer, which would make him the best power forward in the league for a long time. He's more like pre-injury Amare but yes, his game is a bit different than his Oklahoma days. More jumping.


Interesting. I am going to make an effort to watch him more this year, but I mean, the ability to dunk and put up decent stats on a shitty team does not an all-star make. That is what worried me most, guys like Blake and Kevin Love were good-stats-shitty-teams guys and that always, always is a red flag for me. I heard some people calling him a "franchise player" and I think that is premature, agree?

On December 20 2011 05:55 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 05:47 VENDIZ wrote:
On December 19 2011 10:50 cLutZ wrote:
On December 19 2011 10:47 BlueRoyaL wrote:
which is enough to ask for concerning a pg.. but then again maybe not in this era where pgs seem to be leading scorers on many teams ;o


You need to be a credible shooting threat otherwise the athletic defenders in the NBA can lay back in you passing lanes. Steve Nash is a threat to shoot 50% from anywhere on the court if you give him a big cushion which combined with his ability to probe the interior of the defense opens up passing opportunities. Other players like Westbrook and Rose have a credible threat to go to the basket (along with evolving outside games) which makes them all the more difficult to defend.


Well.. do you see Rajon Rondo as a credible shooting threat? He barely hits uncontested mid-range jumpers

Rubio is the definition of a pass-first PG, which I think will fit nicely into the Timberwolves' lineup, they've got at least three valid scoring threats now in Love, Beasley & Williams.


Rondo penetrates very well and generates a fair amount of his offense (or offensive stats) from his defense. His team is also very talented. The same can not be said of Rubio. We'll see how Rondo does once his team isn't 3 future HoFs for an entire season (not counting his rookie ofc). Compared to Nash who is pretty much Phoenix because of his abilities to shoot, and distribute to average role players.

In any case, what I think clutz was trying to say that Rubio falls under neither a credible shooting threat or a blow past you kind of PG. He needs at least one of those 2 to be considered potential and he will need to develop a credible shot, only that much is certain.


Yea, you need to scare the defender in some way. The NBA is just like pick up basketball, but much better. Lets say you are guarding your little brother and he can't shoot for shit, you lay off him because the drive is more dangerous. But what if the drive is hardly dangerous? You camp the passing lanes and just swat his shot as he goes for the layup. That is Ricky Rubio's future unless he develops a shot, or is more athletic than he seems.
Freeeeeeedom
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
December 19 2011 23:37 GMT
#746
On December 20 2011 08:17 jtbem wrote:
Chuck Hayes fails physical due to heart problems poor guy contract voided


yeah, he has some heart abnormality. i seriously hope this does not set his career too far back.

what is with heart conditions lately? jeff green, and now chucky hayes.
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 19 2011 23:44 GMT
#747
Will Lakers get Dwight?
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
December 20 2011 00:10 GMT
#748
Excited to watch the Clippers play tonight but East Coast start times are fucking stupid. I wish I still lived in Los Angeles.
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 20 2011 02:22 GMT
#749
On December 20 2011 08:33 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 05:51 slyboogie wrote:
On December 20 2011 05:47 cLutZ wrote:
I have not gotten to see Griffen play much in the NBA (seeing as I am sane and live in the Eastern Time Zone), but is he really as good as the hype. From what people say he is the next Karl Malone, which would be awesome, if true, but from what I remember from his college days I didn't like him nearly that much (although he was the best player in the draft and deserved to be the #1 pick).


His game is not like Malone's, unless he learns that PnR 18 footer, which would make him the best power forward in the league for a long time. He's more like pre-injury Amare but yes, his game is a bit different than his Oklahoma days. More jumping.


Interesting. I am going to make an effort to watch him more this year, but I mean, the ability to dunk and put up decent stats on a shitty team does not an all-star make. That is what worried me most, guys like Blake and Kevin Love were good-stats-shitty-teams guys and that always, always is a red flag for me. I heard some people calling him a "franchise player" and I think that is premature, agree?


Kevin Love is a good stats bad team guy. Pau Gasol was a good player on a bad team. Blake's been a good player all year. I remember him doing a solid job guarding Dirk at the beginning of the year, he has great footwork.

I don't see why he's not a franchise player. You don't have to be an MVP candidate to be a franchise player.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 02:58:19
December 20 2011 02:55 GMT
#750
There is no such thing as a "good stats on a bad team so he isn't that good" kind of player. It's hard to put up 20/10's on good efficiency when you are the focus of the opposing defense with terrible help. When talking about star talent they tend to put up great numbers no matter where they play. It's much harder to do what Kevin Love does on Minny than what Pau Gasol can do in LA.

What I think you REALLY mean is guys who are on bad teams but get the green light to gun for shots with no care for efficiency, which was mainly a symptom of the mid 2000s with inefficient scorers like AI, Marbury, McGrady and yes, Kobe who were all just chucking up shots.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 22:30:39
December 20 2011 02:59 GMT
#751
Wrong thread oops, read nfl not nba -_-
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 04:01:02
December 20 2011 03:47 GMT
#752
On December 20 2011 11:55 Ace wrote:
There is no such thing as a "good stats on a bad team so he isn't that good" kind of player. It's hard to put up 20/10's on good efficiency when you are the focus of the opposing defense with terrible help. When talking about star talent they tend to put up great numbers no matter where they play. It's much harder to do what Kevin Love does on Minny than what Pau Gasol can do in LA.

What I think you REALLY mean is guys who are on bad teams but get the green light to gun for shots with no care for efficiency, which was mainly a symptom of the mid 2000s with inefficient scorers like AI, Marbury, McGrady and yes, Kobe who were all just chucking up shots.


Shareef Abdur Rahim says thanks.

As for Blake Griffin, he is absolutely a superstar. Basically, imagine a player that scores at a 70% clip from 10 feet in. His defense sucks though.

DEANDRE SLAMS THAT BITCH!

EDIT: To clarify on Blake, I wrote that a bit fast. What I mean to say is that he is an elite threat to score in the paint, 70% is too high, sorry. But as long as he's the roller, his finishing ability has to be respected. His shot looks nice, though there's clearly tons of work to be done there.

This preseason game is wildly entertaining. Chris Paul is so excellent.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
December 20 2011 03:55 GMT
#753
just wondering is there anywhere to watch the preseason games online?
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
December 20 2011 03:59 GMT
#754
I'm actually excited to watch the Clippers this year. They have a lot of athleticism on that starting unit. DeAndre already smashed one in.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
scaban84
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1080 Posts
December 20 2011 03:59 GMT
#755
Omg, the Clippers are looking so good now. Point guard trifecta in Williams, Billups and CP3
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." — Friedrich von Hayek
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
December 20 2011 04:00 GMT
#756
Last two possessions by the Lakers were fuckin' Harlem Globe Trotters shit
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 20 2011 04:17 GMT
#757
big ups to jason kapono

literally thrown the league since he was drafted

now plays for the lakers

quite a story
starleague forever
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
December 20 2011 04:27 GMT
#758
On December 20 2011 12:55 dhe95 wrote:
just wondering is there anywhere to watch the preseason games online?


google "atdhe"
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 04:34:28
December 20 2011 04:34 GMT
#759
LOL the Clips are going streetball on the Lakers right now. This is awesome.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
December 20 2011 04:35 GMT
#760
Wow...they just teched Blake for hanging on the rim during preseason. That's damn embarrassing. And now both Chauncey and CP3 are lecturing the ref.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
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