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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2013 20:56 GMT
#581
What? Hawken definitely worse on the graphics front, IMO. Gameplay is a personal decision but after a few rounds Hawken just felt bland to me. To each his own.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
EiBmoZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada235 Posts
February 17 2013 20:58 GMT
#582
On February 18 2013 05:27 xsnac wrote:
try hawken . 10 times better graphics and gameplay .



if i wanted to play a fast paced FPS with great game play i'd still be playing quake.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 18 2013 20:55 GMT
#583
The games are different. Hawken is like Unreal or Quake, and Mechwarrior is more strategic and in-depth. Just depends on your fancy.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
CuLane
Profile Joined October 2010
United States160 Posts
February 27 2013 14:02 GMT
#584
I'm really enjoying an Atlas D build recently, 1 ERPPC, 1 PPC, 2 MLas, 2 SSRM2's, 1 Ton of ammo, and a Gauss Rifle with 2 tons of ammo. Your mileage may vary as it's not a lot of ammo and hitting with the ballistics can take some time/practice.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
May 15 2013 02:05 GMT
#585
So; how do you not suck at this game? I can barely put out any damage every game, only got one kill (and I barely clipped the guy anyway), and the two mechs I own are apparently useless (and the trial mechs overheat like motherfuckers). My team usually loses; and when it wins I feel like I didn't contribute anything. I barely get any credits per game anymore also; went from getting 200k per game to getting 25k... Is there something I can do to improve my efficacy?
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
May 15 2013 02:22 GMT
#586
Stay in the back and use LRM's. That's obviously the easiest way to rack up damage and kills. Assuming it's not a lagshield raven team but nothing matters then. You can also fit yourself with large lasers to put in quite a dent. Don't fire all your weapons at once, as enticing as it is firing slowly will end up with a lot more damage.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 03:01:25
May 15 2013 03:00 GMT
#587
Depends on what weight class of mech you're using, but for more mobile mechs (light, medium) use your speed to your advantage. Circle around bigger mechs so their torso twist can't keep up with you to land hits, weave in and out of terrain and obstacles that block shots. If you're in a heavier mech, it's mostly always using the terrain to your advantage and having good position. Pop out from behind a building/hill, take your shots, go back behind your cover. Always make sure to never over-extend yourself and get caught out in the middle of the enemy team, make sure you have allies ahead of you on the map at all times and you aren't the one farthest ahead.


Also I still can't believe people are trying to compare Hawken vs. MWO in this thread lol. They are totally different games. It's like trying to compare Left 4 Dead with Day Z or something. The only thing they have in common is that they have zombies and you shoot guns. Same thing with MWO and Hawken. Only thing in common is they have mechs and they are first person. There's literally no other comparison because of how different they are.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
May 15 2013 03:34 GMT
#588
On May 15 2013 11:05 Nightmarjoo wrote:
So; how do you not suck at this game? I can barely put out any damage every game, only got one kill (and I barely clipped the guy anyway), and the two mechs I own are apparently useless (and the trial mechs overheat like motherfuckers). My team usually loses; and when it wins I feel like I didn't contribute anything. I barely get any credits per game anymore also; went from getting 200k per game to getting 25k... Is there something I can do to improve my efficacy?


You ran out of the rookie bonus on credits.

When I last played, everything was dictated by your ping. Over 100? You might as well be rolling dice as much as your aim when it came to actually damaging things and ECM was totally pants on retarded back then, don't know how they changed it now.

Don't go solo around, patience and moving as team is how you'll start winning.
Coriolis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
May 15 2013 03:45 GMT
#589
Just jump snipe :X. Literally, just get a catapracht/highlander and mount ppcs+gauss and then shoot ppl from behind hills. There really isn't much they can do short of bumrushing you, and then your team kills them.
Descolada in everything not TL/Starcraft
Snotling
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany885 Posts
May 15 2013 11:09 GMT
#590
On May 15 2013 12:45 Coriolis wrote:
Just jump snipe :X. Literally, just get a catapracht/highlander and mount ppcs+gauss and then shoot ppl from behind hills. There really isn't much they can do short of bumrushing you, and then your team kills them.


hey, thats MW4 in a nutshell :D
Nikoras
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States115 Posts
May 15 2013 11:45 GMT
#591
"Hmmm I always liked mechwarriors maybe this could be good." Make an account. See this in my email.

"Follow the instructions on the Download page to enable your complimentary 1 FREE day of Premium Time.
This awesome boost rewards you with 50% additional C-Bills and XP per match!"

Die a little on the inside and don't even download the installer. I'm absolutely sick of all the crazy nickel and diming, and paying for power in the PC gaming industry.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 11:51:46
May 15 2013 11:49 GMT
#592
I started with a Raven 3L and then bought the rest to get master with them (900+ damage in one fight gg Ravens).

Although the Hunchback is fucking gooooooood. Hunchback 4SP with 4 med lasers, 2 arty SRM 6 just fucking rips through mechs. Only engage when your heavy buddies and engaged and when you start taking fire then bug out. This damn mech just bursts so hard and has pretty decent heat management.
I can still see the backs of mechs before I lay 12 SRMs into it and watch it explode.

I also bought a Dragon but that was kinda hard to pilot and my next purchase was gonna be an Awesome but I stopped playing.

If you're having trouble, get a brawler (short/medium range + fast, like Hunchback 4SP) and just get in there. All you have to do is engage smartly, poke in, poke out and do as much damage as you can without taking it.
Most matches my poor Hunchy either has one or both torso parts blown off. Even with half my weapons destroyed, 2 med lasers and a SRM 6 can still dish out some hurt.

Die a little on the inside and don't even download the installer. I'm absolutely sick of all the crazy nickel and diming, and paying for power in the PC gaming industry.


Why? It's not even that bad. I never had premium and I bought and fully upgraded at least 5 mechs. Those bonuses aren't really that big of a deal, especially short term. People aren't going to get better weapons than you or anything, it just allows you to unlock shit faster.
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 12:02:10
May 15 2013 11:59 GMT
#593
On May 15 2013 20:45 Nikoras wrote:
"Hmmm I always liked mechwarriors maybe this could be good." Make an account. See this in my email.

"Follow the instructions on the Download page to enable your complimentary 1 FREE day of Premium Time.
This awesome boost rewards you with 50% additional C-Bills and XP per match!"

Die a little on the inside and don't even download the installer. I'm absolutely sick of all the crazy nickel and diming, and paying for power in the PC gaming industry.


I barely even play, and haven't paid a cent for the game, and I have basically everything I want anyway (or could easily attain anything else within a couple days of playing).

It's not really that bad. They gotta make money on the game somehow.


On a sidenote, I'm looking for new people to play with, since my friends moved onto other games right now and I've been wanting to play again. Anyone want to play sometime, or any groups I could tag along with?
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
May 15 2013 18:51 GMT
#594
What do you prioritize your money for? What're the most important mechs or upgrades or equipment?
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
May 15 2013 18:57 GMT
#595
When you get a mech you like, the first upgrade should probably be Double Heatsink upgrade (1.5mil). Then either upgrade the armour/internals and then work on getting a decent engine, although you should probably have a good idea about what weapons you want to use so you don't go over the tonnage.

You can save some money by switching out engines and weapons from one mech to another, might not be as efficient as the engine you're saving up for but most likely it's always going to be better than the standard engine/weapons you get.
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 05:12:49
May 17 2013 04:38 GMT
#596
On May 15 2013 20:45 Nikoras wrote:
"Hmmm I always liked mechwarriors maybe this could be good." Make an account. See this in my email.

"Follow the instructions on the Download page to enable your complimentary 1 FREE day of Premium Time.
This awesome boost rewards you with 50% additional C-Bills and XP per match!"

Die a little on the inside and don't even download the installer. I'm absolutely sick of all the crazy nickel and diming, and paying for power in the PC gaming industry.


You can't pay for power. The champion 'mechs are just as good as any optimized build, and they're free. And, a fully kitted out commando costs like 5 mil, which is like 4-5 games with new player bonus. And it's just as good as any assault.

Edit:

Also, it's a great game. Very MechWarrior, way more fun than 4.

As to the difficulty, yeah, it can be tricky jumping in. I usually have people start out in LRM boats (a Double Heat Sink/Endo-Steel more ammo+HS Catapult C1 is a good starter) or Atlases with everything to have them figure out the mechanics. Then move on to a brawler, like the Hunchback 4SP or a 2xAC/20 Jagermech. But you will pick it up and it's rewarding, like StarCraft or Dark Souls or any other game that seems imposing to beginners.

Also, on upgrades:
Always get faster engine than stock
Always max armor
-No exceptions for lights. But for mediums/heavies/assaults, only 3/4 or 1/2 armor on legs is ok
-Front/Back ratio should be 2:1 for scouts, 3:1 for most builds, and 4:1 for snipers
Always get Double Heat Sinks (DHS)
Usually get Endo Steel
Almost never get Ferro Fibrous, unless you have everything else you want and need more slots. It doesn't increase your armor cap, just slightly reduces your weight.
XL engines vary by 'mech. They are expensive, so get a 300XL and use it for everything that can fit it (swap it around, dont' sell it. only a handful of 'mechs can't take it.) With an XL, you die if you lose a side torso, but the XL is much lighter than the standard.
Good Mechs for an XL:
Any light: Commando, Jenner, Spider, Raven
Faster mediums: Cicada, Trebuchets
Big 'mechs with small side torsos: Catapult, Dragon
Bad Mechs for an XL:
Atlas, Awesome, Stalker (deceptively large side torsos)
Build Dependent Mechs:
Centurion:
SRM focused should get fast XL--note: cannot fit 300 except in CN9-D
AC/Laser focused should get fast Standard
Cataphract, Jagermech
Really better not to go XL, but some builds, like the 2xAC/20 Jager, require it for function. Cataphract 3D with XL and lots of sniping weapons and jump jets is popular now.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 00:28:28
May 28 2013 17:02 GMT
#597
Cicada 3M a good first mech to buy for a Fast, Bruiser type mech?

I'm also streaming at www.twitch.tv/psyonic and will be doing it almost exclusively! Lovin this game!

Edit: I just uploaded some highlights from my stream! This is video 1 of 4.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Vagabond
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland149 Posts
May 28 2013 22:39 GMT
#598
On May 29 2013 02:02 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Cicada 3M a good first mech to buy for a Fast, Bruiser type mech?

I'm also streaming at www.twitch.tv/psyonic and will be doing it almost exclusively! Lovin this game!

A cicada is not a Brawling mech, its more of a Fast scout, hurrasser mech.

Brawling mechs are hunchback,Centurion,Cataphract, highlander 733C, Atlas. In june the next Brawler mech will be out and that will be the Orion a 75 ton heavy mech (being the highest tonnage int he heavy bracket) Which basicly has same hardpoint loadout of the Atlas and runs at 64 KPH with a 300 standard engine.

Back in the Day i used to brawl in the Catapult K2 but you need to learn that its biggest weakness is its Big cockpit.
Drone untill i die.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
May 29 2013 00:29 GMT
#599
I guess I meant to say harassing then. =) I find for myself I like to run around and nit pick people and live to fight another day. Not my style to stand and see who falls down first.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 29 2013 00:55 GMT
#600
On May 15 2013 20:45 Nikoras wrote:
"Hmmm I always liked mechwarriors maybe this could be good." Make an account. See this in my email.

"Follow the instructions on the Download page to enable your complimentary 1 FREE day of Premium Time.
This awesome boost rewards you with 50% additional C-Bills and XP per match!"

Die a little on the inside and don't even download the installer. I'm absolutely sick of all the crazy nickel and diming, and paying for power in the PC gaming industry.

This game gives way less advantages for paying money than comparable games (WoT, War Thunder, etc.). Actually there is almost no advantage other then getting stuff faster. But there is much less grind than in the aforementioned games anyway because there are no tiers you have to climb through. You can buy the biggest mechs right away if you want to. You also dont have to pay any ingame currency for repair and rearm, so that you will always make money.

I never spent real money on anything in this game other than more mech bays. That was maybe 10 €, which was clearly worth it for hundreds of hours played.

The only thing this game lacks is some kind of ladder. Or at least they show your Elo rating. Because they dont there is a lack of motivation to play on after you have all the mechs you want.

The best thing about MWO is that you have so many possibilities to configure your mechs. Results in more versatile gameplay than comparable games.
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