EPTNethack, or "F*** You Too, RNG!" - Page 3
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
http://unnethack.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/unnethack-3-6-0-released/ Sounds totally awesome. Gonna take a break from NAO while I try this out. Hopefully it doesn't make me hate life like Slash'EM Lethe did. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
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JingleHell
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
On October 13 2011 11:33 Supamang wrote: how hard is this game compared to Angband? I haven't actually played Nethack, but afaik you can't scum levels which might make it harder. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
UnNetHack even has autoexplore. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
- Press 'v' for autoexplore. - Unlocked doors automatically open when pressed against - if locked you will be prompted to use any unlocking tool in your inventory - Intelligent autopickup: If an item is manually dropped, you will never grab it through autopickup. Very handy when working with stashes; no more turning it on and off or accidentally picking up a million potions and spellbooks. - Lots of small UI improvements. - Wishing nerfs: wands start with less charges and cannot be recharged. Djinni wishes can no longer give you magic items (no scrolls, artifacts, wands, rings, anything) but magic lamps can be polymorphed (not sure how useful 'infinite' non-magic wishes is *I think the most useful non-magic wishes are athames and shields of reflection*). I don't know about fountain wishes, but I bet they're the same as lamp wishes. Thrones can't give wishes. - Randomized dragon scales: Dragons have all been renamed and their scale benefits are randomized every game. (e.g. gray dragon is now called sirrush, and its scales can provide mres one game and poison res the next) soooo wishing for gdsm (now sirrush scale mail) just became risky. - Scroll of Genocide nerf: blessed scrolls act like vanilla unblessed, unblessed only kill all of a certain type on the current floor. - Unihorns no longer restore stats - restore ability just got 100x more useful. - Elbereth no longer works against named demons or any quest nemesis. I really hope this game doesn't force you to fight demogorgon. - The Black Market (from Slash'EM). Gold is actually useful beyond protection now. This is a big deal. - Lots of changes to gehennom layout. Can't offer an opinion here because I haven't made it that far but I pray it doesn't involve a million sources of summoned nasties. - New layouts for minetown, sokoban, other special levels. - Sokoban is only 3 floors, down from 4, and you get a choice of holding/amulet/cloak now. This is amazing IMO. So yeah. I'm sure there's more that I missed but from what I've experienced, UnNetHack improves on vanilla in big ways. Lots of interesting additions while nerfing the stupidly broken things in intelligent ways. Assuming the tweaked end game isn't a grind of death dealbreaker, I can't see a reason to play vanilla NetHack ever again. | ||
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
 So I start on a room with a fountain. Sure why not? My stats were bad anyways. First quaff summons a genie with a wish lol. GDSM in first room nice. I go down to the mines, lose my horse to level teleport. For some reason I thought he went to somewhere on the main dungeon so I go back out. I see the sokoban stairs so i figure i might as well get the bag or reflect ammy, both of which would help me greatly. Found a bunch of wands and the BOH. I engrave test the stack on wands. First one was a wand of wishing lol. First time i got this before castle. I think for a bit and just get the charging scrolls. I decide to fix my luck before using the wand furthur. I go down to mines end get the luckstone, and decide to just quaff a fountain there. Another wish lol. I found reflection ammy somewhere along the way, I got speed boots, and 18/20 str or soemthing so I just go for Mitre of holiness. Then i use my wand to wish for a ki-rin. 3 more wishes left on the wand. If i dont ascend with this guy i should just quit playing alltogether lol. btw is there a way to increase tameness for ki-rins. I was kicking shit out of the stair square and he got hit by some arrow. Now it keeps neighing and makes me fall off a couple times when i try to ride it;; | ||
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
Also, if a pet wields a excaliber, does the automagic serching trigger for him? | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
I can see myself wasting a ton of time on this game, if i can just get the basics down. What class is good for a beginner? | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
On October 24 2011 02:12 Varpulis wrote: ok i feel kind of retarded right now, but what is the command for using stairs? Also how does one go about breaking a boulder? It just hurts me when i kick it, and the kick command is pretty much all i've got. < or > for stairs. To break a boulder you need a pickaxe/mattock and then you "a"pply it. I can see myself wasting a ton of time on this game, if i can just get the basics down. What class is good for a beginner? Personally I think Ranger and Knight are the easiest to win with but most people seem to think Barbarian or Valkyrie (perhaps because it's annoying, especially with the default interface, to use ranged attacks so often (Ranger) or to jump a ton (Knight)). | ||
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
Umm and can someone answer my question 2 posts up lol | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
On October 24 2011 01:07 gameguard wrote: I have a quick question please help. When you engrave with a weapon to try to bring it down to +5 enchantment, does it show the new enchantment value? I have a +6 blessed rustproof lance. I engraved 1 letter... nothing happend, so i engraved another letter.. nothing. So I tried engraving 2 letters... still nothing. I was scared that maybe it was deducting enchantment but just wasnt showing. So I tried to identify it but its already identified so it doesnt show up.... Im kinda confused lol. Also, if a pet wields a excaliber, does the automagic serching trigger for him? Yes, I just tried engraving Elbereth with a +1 dagger, it's now -3. I'm pretty sure no. | ||
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
On October 24 2011 23:48 gameguard wrote: as far as wishing for artifacts go, does your own quest artifact factor into your chances of getting the wish? 99% sure that any artifact counts towards the total. The wiki would point the exception out otherwise I'd think. On October 26 2011 23:04 gameguard wrote: how feasible would it be to beat the game with permanent hallucination? There is actually a patch for this lol. Obviously, having pets would be impossible. Once you get your ascension gear it shouldnt be too impossible, but getting to that point would be ridiculous since u have no way of determining the early dangerous monsters. Considering that the greatest challenge in NetHack is learning the appropriate response to a thousand different forms of death, it sounds virtually impossible to win with permanent hallucination. Is that monster a lichen or a floating eye? You'll never know. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
It keeps saying bad option line... anyone know about this? | ||
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
I had full ascension gear on my priest. +7 staff of aesculapius, Eye of imbaness, Orb of fate, mitre of holiness, all good spells, a blessed figurine of archon, 2 freaking magic markers. I had EVERYTHING and 2 wishes left. I wasnt paying attention to my hunger bar and ate a nymph and died T_T Man i didnt even get any early breaks on this priest. It was a tough run... I was using +1 vorpal blade this whole time and i finally got to castle for the wand. Ugh,.. I guess ill go back and finish my knight. This guy has a pet titan with speed boots, shield of reflection and +7 grayswandir. Pet rapes more than my ki-rin knight with +7 lance -__-; | ||
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