Counter-Strike: Global Offensive - Page 87

On August 14 2012 03:01 Probe1 wrote:
I feel like I'm the only one that looks forward to CS:GO and isn't trying to stick my arm up Valves ass and use it as a puppet for my pulpit.

I played CS as a mod. I bought it when Valve took it over. I played 1.6 I'll play CS:GO. I enjoy it and a new game will bring a greater diversity of players to the servers so it will be fun for a while. End of my thought process. I don't care to imagine what Valve thinks.

On August 14 2012 03:13 Am0n3r wrote:
What would be a good resource to read up on competitive CS overview, strats, splits, names for map areas and etc?

On August 14 2012 03:44 Absurd Bunny wrote:
It's coming out on the 21st of this month, why beta key?

On August 14 2012 03:13 Am0n3r wrote:
What would be a good resource to read up on competitive CS overview, strats, splits, names for map areas and etc?

On August 14 2012 00:15 Durak wrote:
I think you guys are ignoring the divide between the business' perspective and the player's perspective. Players want a game that is enjoyable while a business wants something that will make them the most profits. I'll try to show why that isn't simply 1.6 with updated graphics which should explain why Valve doesn't just do what seems obvious.

As players, we all want to be playing the best game possible. From our perspective as TLers, we generally consider that to be a game with enough depth to maintain our interest as well as be played competitively. CS 1.6 filled those criteria for a number of years but now it doesn't: no cool graphics to keep your interest, few friends/dwindling player base which makes 'being good' less satisfying, and a small competitive scene. Therefore, as players, we would like Valve to "easily" update 1.6 so that people play again and we have a few new features while maintaining the gameplay.

The business' perspective (Valve) explains why that is not CS:GO and why you might be confused about the changes. Valve is trying to optimize their profits on their brand (CS) which does not mean simply re-skinning Counter-Strike. If they did that, the 1.6 people might not bother buying it just for new graphics and young gamers wouldn't pay much attention to it. Valve is attempting to make some phat stacks by appealing to more gamers than the old people who used to play 1.6. There are far more gamers to profit from than the dwindling old group (growing up). They are attempting to create interest by making the changes significant enough while still getting the credibility and support of their brand.

That is why you have new weapons, new skins, new sounds, and new gamemodes. Valve isn't concerned about recreating the "ideal competitive game" but rather tweaking it a bit so you buy the game.

P.S. I was also going to provide the example of BW and SC2, showing that it may be an inferior game but still made Blizzard a lot of money for the same reasons. BW and 1.6 don't sell that many copies anymore so you have to kill off the old while bringing in a new wave of gamers based on the brand. You can also use the example of D2 and D3 to show what happens when you try and do it but fuck up a bit.

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I think you can do that but only with 5v5 at the moment. You invite friends into a lobby/group and then you can search with the matchmaking system. I don't know what a warserver is so I'm ignoring that part in my answer.

On August 14 2012 03:55 Roflhaxx wrote:

Except they would, 10 dollars for the new version of the game they have been playing the last 10 years?

On August 14 2012 04:36 Durak wrote:

I said "might not" because I think that some people wouldn't bother. $10 for slightly better graphics? You can do that for free with skins since the majority of your playtime is out of leagues. Furthermore, people are ridiculously cheap concerning games as you can see with the F2P model destroying other ones. Regardless, that's a very small group of players.

On August 14 2012 04:47 KillerSOS wrote:


Only super broke teenagers are super cheap with games. I play F2P games and spend money in the stores because they deserve my money. Also, most of my friends, including myself, have a good 20 - 50 games in the steam library.

On August 14 2012 03:55 Tobberoth wrote:

As was said, stuff like that isn't all that relevant unless you play 5man, and map area names etc will usually depend on your clan, there's nothing really standard (except possibly what is the A bomb spot and what is the B bomb spot). If you're going to play alone or just with a friend or two, just play the game to improve your aim. If aiming is like 1.6, it's all about learning how to burst properly. If it's more like source, it's all about learning to hold your mouse button down.