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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
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Bacillus
Finland2041 Posts
On November 23 2014 23:23 iv~nk~j wrote: pita already deleted his tweet and yes it's true that taking screencaps of a youtube vid like that doesn't really prove anything towards either flusha's innocence or guiltiness, i'm just showing that this supposed proof people are using doesn't even confirm what they are accusing flusha of (that his crosshair snaps to edward's head and fires) I think in general the suspicious thing is that he snaps into such a illogical position and fires. He heard the sniper zoom, that's fairly sure. However, I can't see any other reason than nerves why he'd fire into that position manually and reveal his position and all that. I think at this point it would be very much necessary that someone with high credibility in the community sits down and makes a reasonable analysis of the situation before DHW. Otherwise it's going to be a witch hunt crashing into fanboy defence because 90% of the community isn't capable of putting together a few sentences to form a reasonable post. | ||
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Thryd
86 Posts
On November 23 2014 23:21 WindWolf wrote: Just want to double-check one thing. Can AWP bullets penetrate this wall? IIRC I think that I got a lucky shoot through this wall in one of my games) pretty sure you can shoot through that wall, the barrel of an m4a1s can stick through that wall, dont see how an awp can't shoot through it | ||
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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
On November 24 2014 00:56 Thryd wrote: pretty sure you can shoot through that wall, the barrel of an m4a1s can stick through that wall, dont see how an awp can't shoot through it You can. An AWP even penetrates the concrete twice. I just tried it out: ![]() Pistols for example do not have enough power to penetrate the walls, not even just the front one. | ||
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
On November 24 2014 00:56 Thryd wrote: pretty sure you can shoot through that wall, the barrel of an m4a1s can stick through that wall, dont see how an awp can't shoot through it Sniper (AWP, scout, autosniper) and deagle bullets are the only thing that can penetrate it. Regular rifles used to be able to, but not anymore I guess since that wallbang update. If you want to check if you can shoot through certain walls, just make an empty server, and type "sv_cheats1; sv_showimpacts 1" This shows your bullet impacts and if they go through walls, they'll show another impact behind the wall. There was also another command that showed theoretical damage, but I don't remember that command. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2041 Posts
On November 24 2014 01:12 Nagisama wrote: Sniper (AWP, scout, autosniper) and deagle bullets are the only thing that can penetrate it. Regular rifles used to be able to, but not anymore I guess since that wallbang update. If you want to check if you can shoot through certain walls, just make an empty server, and type "sv_cheats1; sv_showimpacts 1" This shows your bullet impacts and if they go through walls, they'll show another impact behind the wall. There was also another command that showed theoretical damage, but I don't remember that command. Is there any common sense method for defining what penetrates a specific wall apart from trial and error? It seemed like 1.6 didn't make any difference between materials, only the wall thickness and weapon power mattered. However, GO seems to be very specific about certain walls sometimes. Is the wall 'toughness' a mapper set value in editor or so? | ||
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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On November 23 2014 23:35 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Innocent until proven guilty. Personally, I don't doubt for a second that he used hacks (there's just too many crazy headshot incidents that come together for flusha, a lot of pros agree and, maybe the most condemning thing, as usual, is his response) but we'll have to wait until he actually gets a VAC ban to condemn him. I agree. I think the only people being unreasonable here are the ones screaming guilty / innocent. Theres nothing wrong with discussing suspicious evidence and forming a (strong) opinion. But screaming that someone should be banned off of it, or that "THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THAT WAS HACKS. I DID THAT EXACT THING BEFORE IN MATCHMAKING, LOOK AT THIS FLAWED SCREENSHOT IT WASNT EVEN ON THE HEAD" is completely ridiculous and the only "wrong" thing in the whole situation. At least these types of people are immediately disregarded by those with sense. | ||
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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
But innocent until proven guilty. | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
http://i.imgur.com/1mCOAcn.jpg lol | ||
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saddaromma
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On November 24 2014 03:08 saddaromma wrote: is it me or is cs unplayable now due to flood of cheaters? The few games I played were absolutely fine. Also, people need to tone down the witchhunting. I know reddit is famous for that and I don't expect anything out of them, but please refrain from that here. Ruining someone's career over suspicions is not the way to go. | ||
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saddaromma
1129 Posts
On November 24 2014 04:19 Roggay wrote: The few games I played were absolutely fine. Also, people need to tone down the witchhunting. I know reddit is famous for that and I don't expect anything out of them, but please refrain from that here. Ruining someone's career over suspicions is not the way to go. I always assume the other player is really good or extremely lucky. But sometimes hacks are so blatantly obvious that it totally kills any desire to play this game. Like when a player always knows where you are for the whole match, flashes you beforehand without any possible information and at completely random places. I made some experiment and sat in base, he comes flashes me and proceeds to attack, I mean he doesn't even try to hide his hack. It makes me sad, I really love CS, but I guess there is nothing me or valve can do ![]() | ||
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aike
United States1629 Posts
On November 24 2014 04:31 saddaromma wrote: I always assume the other player is really good or extremely lucky. But sometimes hacks are so blatantly obvious that it totally kills any desire to play this game. Like when a player always knows where you are for the whole match, flashes you beforehand without any possible information and at completely random places. I made some experiment and sat in base, he comes flashes me and proceeds to attack, I mean he doesn't even try to hide his hack. It makes me sad, I really love CS, but I guess there is nothing me or valve can do ![]() I try to assume that people are just really good or really lucky, but if I get the feeling they might be hacking I report right now. I have enough faith in overwatch to sort through the issue. They can see what he sees and determine hacking or not ![]() | ||
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
Lurppis wrote an article talking about the laxness of LAN events with regards to competitive standards, and it's just baffling when you compare it to Starcraft, or as he said himself the CS1.6 event circuit. Why do players need to go online? Why do they need 30 minutes to warm up? And although it seems a bit like parting shots, Titan has a point about Valve's lack of communication. If you want teams to act more professionally, they need to be treated as such. Not to say they should not have been banned from DHW, but that they need to know what is going on and what they need to do. These teams have a lot of money involved. In all, I hope CSGO is able to become more consistent and empty out its childishness. The DDOS issue is huge, and will only be solved when everything else is falls in to place. It's okay to have a bit of a shaking out in creation of leagues and such, but CSGO has a professional scene for a long time and still retains a nebulous web of minor tournaments that have different standards. | ||
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DPK
Canada487 Posts
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DPK
Canada487 Posts
On November 24 2014 05:02 sharkeyanti wrote: And although it seems a bit like parting shots, Titan has a point about Valve's lack of communication. If you want teams to act more professionally, they need to be treated as such. Not to say they should not have been banned from DHW, but that they need to know what is going on and what they need to do. These teams have a lot of money involved. I disagree completely on this. While sure Valve could've been a little more open to talk with Titan about the situation, I completely agree with their decision. It's Titan fault for hiring a hacker and let him do whatever he wants. They didn't act professionally in the first place since they let one of their players play with hacks and look what happen. IMHO, they completely deserve it, no matter how harsh their sanction was. It should be a wake up call to all organizations to make sure their players do act professionally and not like some 12yo who thinks it's cool to play with hacks, else they might get ban from tournaments and thus will be loosing money and maybe even sponsors. Like you said, these teams have a lot of money involved, it should be one of their primary concern to be sure that none of their players hack, no matter where and when. Especially when you think about the reputation it will give to these organizations when one of their players get caught. The blame here is on Titan and Titan alone. The ban from DW is harsh but completely deserved in my book. | ||
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
On November 24 2014 05:31 DPK wrote: I disagree completely on this. While sure Valve could've been a little more open to talk with Titan about the situation, I completely agree with their decision. It's Titan fault for hiring a hacker and let him do whatever he wants. They didn't act professionally in the first place since they let one of their players play with hacks and look what happen. IMHO, they completely deserve it, no matter how harsh their sanction was. It should be a wake up call to all organizations to make sure their players do act professionally and not like some 12yo who thinks it's cool to play with hacks, else they might get ban from tournaments and thus will be loosing money and maybe even sponsors. Like you said, these teams have a lot of money involved, it should be one of their primary concern to be sure that none of their players hack, no matter where and when. Especially when you think about the reputation it will give to these organizations when one of their players get caught. The blame here is on Titan and Titan alone. The ban from DW is harsh but completely deserved in my book. Agreed on the ban for sure. They have to shoulder the responsibility for their player's actions. The point I was trying to get at was that Valve (according to Titan) has basically said nothing to them about why KQLY was banned, and that they have heard nothing about why they could not play in the qualifier. I do not believe that they should have been involved in the qualifier, but if Valve wants to be involved in these high profile/high money events it should be in communication with the top teams. | ||
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