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Luolis
Finland7165 Posts
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
On November 23 2014 00:42 Miragee wrote: You have no understanding of CS weapons, do you? To be quite honest, I'm so sick right of reading all this. Just calm down and see what happens. Blind accusations about random stuff won't help anyone. This. So much this. Just want to repeat this to here as well. It's getting really annoying. Yes, 2 top level pros were banned for cheating, and a lot of others implicated and ESEA saying "more to come". But until it's been announced that someone else got VAC'd, stop posting frag clips and say omg this was hacks. gfg. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
It was quite possibly the most retarded fail i had ever seen. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
On November 23 2014 01:17 Capped wrote: In semi-related news. I just got my first overwatch case. He did a few odd things that suggested WH but nothing conclusive until this one round where he had absolutely no fucking idea (or should have, rather) that someone was 100% in overpass sewers and he sat there for 45 seconds trying to bounce flashbangs and nades out of the door / small window while spamming the squeaky before the other guy got bored and just rushed him. It was quite possibly the most retarded fail i had ever seen. welcome to overwatch :DD | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
 LC please why do this to me | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On November 23 2014 01:06 Nagisama wrote: This. So much this. Just want to repeat this to here as well. It's getting really annoying. Yes, 2 top level pros were banned for cheating, and a lot of others implicated and ESEA saying "more to come". But until it's been announced that someone else got VAC'd, stop posting frag clips and say omg this was hacks. gfg. well the fact that he made those frags isn't the thign that bothered me, but rather the instant perfect flick that followed | ||
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iv~nk~j
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Round 2 i buy nothing, end up 1v3, get a 3k without enough time to defuse, instinct determines me to run from bomb. "OMFG GG SAVE PISTOL NOOB" -Queue abuse from entire team for the rest of the match at the slightest mistake. While 2nd-fragging by a wide margin (the main culprit being the 7-3-16 bottom fragger. -Kicked when i die without getting kills 3 rounds in a row when its 12-10 to us (making it 12-13) Some people are just mother fucking cunts. On November 23 2014 05:32 iv~nk~j wrote: i wish people kept their suspicions and thoughts to themselves until there is actual proof like vac ban This type of behavior leads to many many people getting away with alot of bad shit. Source: Much history from around the world. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
@capped: dude, why ffs do you solo q? Just mention of it brings tears to my eyes. | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
most of the time there's 1 good player out of the 4, but a 2v8 is still a 2v8 | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On November 23 2014 11:33 Kotreb wrote: Agreed with both Cappy boy and slardar. Silence brings nothing. @capped: dude, why ffs do you solo q? Just mention of it brings tears to my eyes. You're never around to play anymore q.q EDIT: Plus you're DMG/MGE which with my recent shitterville deranking i think means i cant even play with you hahaha...i have no friends | ||
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On November 23 2014 11:59 Nagisama wrote: For something the community has no control over (VAC), it seems really dumb to be calling out pros for cheating. Call it out and pull out the shady frag vids, after they've been VAC'd or banned by some other anti cheat client. Calling out specific pros doesn't help valve ban cheaters any faster. This got WAY too fucking long at 3am LOL + Show Spoiler + Communities have found and extradited bad apples this way for centuries. Suspicions arise, Investigations happen, People are found out, Said people are gotten rid of by the law or not. There are 100's of games with shit anticheats, uncaring companies and rampant hacking, the communities of each and every one of these games dispose of them themselves through very similar methods. (I never played 1.6 / source but i imagine it being very similar for those. Especially 1.6) There are thousands of real life examples large, big and small that used the same concept of (lets call it) "community investigation" to out a shitter. This is a very common and well known thing to do, yet because CSGO has a large scene, a big company and tournaments behind it apparently its bad/wrong to do so? --- Im not talking about "witchhunting" specific players. But posting suspicious videos and discussing them isn't "witchhunting", the mass spamming of "LOL WHO GO VACATION NEXT OLOFM JW KIOSHIMA" posts/threads/retardspam on HLTV / Reddit / elsewhere is, but nobody with a brain takes that shit seriously. Clearly, VAC isn't foolproof and it isnt doing its fucking job well enough, Valve had to seek outside aid from ESEA to catch out SNM/KQLY/SF and are still getting outside help to get the rest (if there are any). The best part about all this? Theres big enough support FROM companies like valve / ESEA / Dreamhack that any "witchhunted" players will be proven innocent/guilty either way once the dust settles and people will forget. That sort of nasty ass witchhunting might ruin careers elsewhere but it wont in CSGO - if they aren't guilty nothing will come of it. No team is going to boot a player because HLTV spams hate or posts a couple of clutch .gifs after they're found innocent via the untold shit they're no doubt going to go through (Investigations from multiple angles, increased "security" at LAN's, Banwaves etc.) The worst part? Theres probably a whole bunch more hackers out there and a whole bunch who will get away with it because they covered their tracks too. - tl;dr - there is nothing wrong with discussing suspicions and it does more good then harm. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8739 Posts
On November 23 2014 12:30 Capped wrote: This got WAY too fucking long at 3am LOL + Show Spoiler + Communities have found and extradited bad apples this way for centuries. Suspicions arise, Investigations happen, People are found out, Said people are gotten rid of by the law or not. There are 100's of games with shit anticheats, uncaring companies and rampant hacking, the communities of each and every one of these games dispose of them themselves through very similar methods. (I never played 1.6 / source but i imagine it being very similar for those. Especially 1.6) There are thousands of real life examples large, big and small that used the same concept of (lets call it) "community investigation" to out a shitter. This is a very common and well known thing to do, yet because CSGO has a large scene, a big company and tournaments behind it apparently its bad/wrong to do so? --- Im not talking about "witchhunting" specific players. But posting suspicious videos and discussing them isn't "witchhunting", the mass spamming of "LOL WHO GO VACATION NEXT OLOFM JW KIOSHIMA" posts/threads/retardspam on HLTV / Reddit / elsewhere is, but nobody with a brain takes that shit seriously. Clearly, VAC isn't foolproof and it isnt doing its fucking job well enough, Valve had to seek outside aid from ESEA to catch out SNM/KQLY/SF and are still getting outside help to get the rest (if there are any). The best part about all this? Theres big enough support FROM companies like valve / ESEA / Dreamhack that any "witchhunted" players will be proven innocent/guilty either way once the dust settles and people will forget. That sort of nasty ass witchhunting might ruin careers elsewhere but it wont in CSGO - if they aren't guilty nothing will come of it. No team is going to boot a player because HLTV spams hate or posts a couple of clutch .gifs after they're found innocent via the untold shit they're no doubt going to go through (Investigations from multiple angles, increased "security" at LAN's, Banwaves etc.) The worst part? Theres probably a whole bunch more hackers out there and a whole bunch who will get away with it because they covered their tracks too. - tl;dr - there is nothing wrong with discussing suspicions and it does more good then harm. so you say we live in a cruel and unjust world not called fairy tail? and people from the internet will help fix that? #WhatWouldBatmanDo #Let'sDoThisBruce | ||
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aike
United States1629 Posts
 TL actually supports this type of thing generally. Look at the GM hacker thread. You suspect somebody of hacking, come up with what you think supports your theory, share it with others to try and get confirmation. Saying "We shouldn't call out people before they get VAC banned" is dumb. Literally the only reason these guys are getting VAC banned is because someone had a suspicion and looked into it, ESEA found this hack and AFTER that Valve talked to them so they could learn more about it. So yeah... VAC is only finding it now because of people people suspicious and sharing that. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8739 Posts
for a game like SC2 it just makes more sense since every step of the way is transparent and unfiltered if you have the replay - you can even identify someone based on his hotkey setup as an example, unthinkable for CS:GO. and in CS:GO it is not as clear cut since it got more factors like team mates calling things or hearing stuff or whatever. but yeah, Blizzard could to way more to stop hackers. but valve has been plain terrible. and don't get me started on the community... lol if you think SC2 people are bitching, think again. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On November 23 2014 15:09 Doublemint wrote: so you say we live in a cruel and unjust world not called fairy tail? and people from the internet will help fix that? #WhatWouldBatmanDo #Let'sDoThisBruce Im not sure if im too tired to understand this but what? | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8739 Posts
On November 23 2014 19:43 Capped wrote: Im not sure if im too tired to understand this but what? I understand the temptation to question everything now, but the CS community is a cesspit and more harm will come from the accusations than good. It's just getting even more toxic now, I would not blame the cheating players - sure they are shitbirds and not worth a cup of cold piss - though Valve are the ones that let it happen in the first place with completely neglecting the cheater problem, while making a ton of money with the game. The pox to Valve and their bullshit business practices - until they fix it. | ||
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