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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
Now I'm only a Gold shitter, but the speed of that flick vs his other mouse movements in the video looks off. Hoo boyyyyy.. As close as I could get it to the snap point via screenshot. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KlwyjHk.jpg) | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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Duka08
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
So fishy... | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8739 Posts
I stopped playing MM in CS:GO quite a while ago actually, it is frustrating as fuck in general and the widespread cheater problem was the nail in the coffin for me. | ||
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MWY
Germany284 Posts
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GTR
51582 Posts
http://gfycat.com/EvergreenTerribleEel + Show Spoiler [GIF] + ![[image loading]](http://giant.gfycat.com/EvergreenTerribleEel.gif) The fact that there was no smooth movement in the mouse towards whoever was in the smoke raises flags already. | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On November 22 2014 16:08 Slardar wrote: Flusha defuse one is...really fishy. His cursor literally just flicks to the guys head who is smoked in the palace at an inhuman speed then he just look's like he's playing it off looking around. Now I'm only a Gold shitter, but the speed of that flick vs his other mouse movements in the video looks off. Hoo boyyyyy.. As close as I could get it to the snap point via screenshot. I play high sensitivity and that flick is not at all inhuman, and also the guy's RUNNING on palace balcony (which, as you guys know, makes a very distincting woody "clomp clomp clomp"), so flusha knows he's there... The smoke doesn't change anything, I might have done the exact same thing. And if the cursor gets on the head, well it does all the time. I've killed countless people from 1taps through smoke in Inferno while holding B, or just random flicks through smokes from hearing people on the other side. Now you all might be right, but that video is in no way proof of that. Especially not since, from what I've been reading, the hack doesn't move your cursor long distances, but only improves your aim by a certain percentage. It assists your aiming, it won't drag your cursor that far. Now it could be that flusha uses a different hack or whatever, but I don't think so. I think some of you guys are on a witch hunt and I can understand that, but like I said earlier, when you play that much CS, you're bound to do some freaky shit from time to time. Now please do understand that I don't think myself an expert at all, and I'm not saying "flusha absolutely doesn't hack", I don't particularly care for flusha or fnatic, I just dont think this is proof of anything. I want to add, unless I'm mistaken, we see these videos as they're being recorded through HLTV, so aren't they running at 16 tick? Some things actually desync, right? They typically seem smoother than replays but anyway if not that'd explain the alleged "straight line". HLTV won't pick up every point of transition between your aim in point A to point B. I have a video of myself (by no means a player comparable to flusha), it has 2 flicks in it, and the one around 48 seconds looks like the guy dies before I even aim at him. Also there's a point in the video where I'm looking down radio from ramp with my awp and I was making circles with my aim, and in the replay it looks like I'm drawing perfectly straight short lines up and down, left and right, very robotically. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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SyNc`
333 Posts
On November 22 2014 22:52 Djzapz wrote: I play high sensitivity and that flick is not at all inhuman, and also the guy's RUNNING on palace balcony (which, as you guys know, makes a very distincting woody "clomp clomp clomp"), so flusha knows he's there... The smoke doesn't change anything, I might have done the exact same thing. And if the cursor gets on the head, well it does all the time. I've killed countless people from 1taps through smoke in Inferno while holding B, or just random flicks through smokes from hearing people on the other side. Now you all might be right, but that video is in no way proof of that. Especially not since, from what I've been reading, the hack doesn't move your cursor long distances, but only improves your aim by a certain percentage. It assists your aiming, it won't drag your cursor that far. Now it could be that flusha uses a different hack or whatever, but I don't think so. I think some of you guys are on a witch hunt and I can understand that, but like I said earlier, when you play that much CS, you're bound to do some freaky shit from time to time. Now please do understand that I don't think myself an expert at all, and I'm not saying "flusha absolutely doesn't hack", I don't particularly care for flusha or fnatic, I just dont think this is proof of anything. I want to add, unless I'm mistaken, we see these videos as they're being recorded through HLTV, so aren't they running at 16 tick? Some things actually desync, right? They typically seem smoother than replays but anyway if not that'd explain the alleged "straight line". HLTV won't pick up every point of transition between your aim in point A to point B. I have a video of myself (by no means a player comparable to flusha), it has 2 flicks in it, and the one around 48 seconds looks like the guy dies before I even aim at him. Also there's a point in the video where I'm looking down radio from ramp with my awp and I was making circles with my aim, and in the replay it looks like I'm drawing perfectly straight short lines up and down, left and right, very robotically. + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7d_0jFeMXk The only reason the flusha clip on mirage is fishy is because if you watch it at .25x speed you see him flick to apex through the smoke then his crosshair goes diagonally to the left and snaps to his head, then flusha suddenly turns away. No one is complaining about him randomly aiming at that spot because its common to look there if you hear someone booking it out of apts, but watch it at .25x speed and you'll see why people are suspicious. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On November 22 2014 23:23 SyNc` wrote: The only reason the flusha clip on mirage is fishy is because if you watch it at .25x speed you see him flick to apex through the smoke then his crosshair goes diagonally to the left and snaps to his head, then flusha suddenly turns away. No one is complaining about him randomly aiming at that spot because its common to look there if you hear someone booking it out of apts, but watch it at .25x speed and you'll see why people are suspicious. I understand that, and I see it, but I don't think it's hugely out of the ordinary. Maybe I'm wrong tho, I've been wrong before. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
What world do i live in where this is normal? I dont think its proof anyway, i just said what it looks like. Although, the fact that he did that, then just ran off instead of shooting is really weird. | ||
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SyNc`
333 Posts
On November 22 2014 23:34 Capped wrote: You dont think a perfectly straight line to the perfect center of a players torso through smoke is suspicious? Only the the slight movement and head aim afterwards? :O What world do i live in where this is normal? I dont think its proof anyway, i just said what it looks like. Although, the fact that he did that, then just ran off instead of shooting is really weird. I mean yeah, the perfect flick in general is suspicious but thinking about it I think I would flick to around the same area if i heard someone running out apts. Realistically, no one would flick to a shoulder peek angle but rather towards the middle of the balcony. It could have been an unfortunate coincidence but the snap to the head that you see at .25x speed is what is really suspicious to me personally. At this point its basically a witch hunt and everyone is going to call cheats on everything that is slightly suspicious, but hopefully no one else gets banned. I doubt it though because if two pros from top teams decide to cheat then there's definitely more that are doing it. I wouldn't be surprised to see olofmeister, kioshima, jw and a few others getting banned. I'm always the one to give people the benefit of the doubt, like when everyone in NA thought freakazoid cheated in source, as well as dazed when he was a god online in source and completely useless on lan, or when mosbeck was putting up 100 adr in invite and 50 at lan, and shroud in go before he joined c9, but some of the shit these euros do just makes sense now that this is happening. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On November 22 2014 23:34 Capped wrote: You dont think a perfectly straight line to the perfect center of a players torso through smoke is suspicious? Only the the slight movement and head aim? :O What world do i live in where this is normal? I dont think its proof anyway, i just said what it looks like. Although, the fact that he did that, then just ran off instead of shooting is really weird. I think it's suspicious. I think lots of things are suspicious. Even shit I did. | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
if he thought there was someone coming from palace, he would not take his reticle away from that area edit: guess he was looking for JW's AWP better context | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On November 22 2014 23:34 Capped wrote: You dont think a perfectly straight line to the perfect center of a players torso through smoke is suspicious? Only the the slight movement and head aim? :O What world do i live in where this is normal? I dont think its proof anyway, i just said what it looks like. Although, the fact that he did that, then just ran off instead of shooting is really weird. well that shot is 100% normal, look at this clip. http://fragbite.se/fragtv/video/1952/olofm-vs-navi olofm is a pro player, ofc he can make a perfect jugdment about where he has to aim for a headshot while jumping, and right after he shot he can INSTANTLY FLICK to the head of the person who he killed, its just comes down to alot of hours in the game. | ||
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Miragee
8657 Posts
On November 23 2014 00:37 sabas123 wrote: well that shot is 100% normal, look at this clip. http://fragbite.se/fragtv/video/1952/olofm-vs-navi olofm is a pro player, ofc he can make a perfect jugdment about where he has to aim for a headshot while jumping, and right after he shot he can INSTANTLY FLICK to the head of the person who he killed, its just comes down to alot of hours in the game. You have no understanding of CS weapons, do you? To be quite honest, I'm so sick right of reading all this. Just calm down and see what happens. Blind accusations about random stuff won't help anyone. | ||
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