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On April 05 2016 06:59 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2016 00:14 Muffloe wrote:Looks like Fnatic will be missing Dreamhack Malmö due to olofm's injury + Show Spoiler +http://fragbite.se/cs/news/38809/olofm-med-armskada-fnatic-missar-dreamhack-malmo Wow fnatic as a whole pulled out, didn't expect that. With Na'vi only Guardian pulled out.
NaVi is not gonna use Guardian at DH?
Is there an english source where i can read about what they said about this? Thanks in advance!
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11589 Posts
On April 06 2016 00:42 HugoBallzak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2016 23:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think the fall of french CS demonstrates a bit about the irrelevancy of individual skill if your team can't work together well. I think it says more about the French scene players than anything else. The individual skill displayed by envyus in recent events has been dismal. Still, you absolutely NEED star players to compete at the top. There are no mighty ducks in csgo.
Kenny's individual performances before the Major were "dismal"?
I don't think you understand the problems the French teams have if you put it down to not having enough individual talent. That's simply not the case.
Also, performances aren't solely based on individual skill, you know. That's the problem with looking at HLTV rating and taking it as a hard and fast indicator of someone's play in a match or at an event. Even the best players can have bad stats on a dysfunctional team, and bad players can have great stats on an exceptional team.
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On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 00:46 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:42 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 05 2016 23:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think the fall of french CS demonstrates a bit about the irrelevancy of individual skill if your team can't work together well. I think it says more about the French scene players than anything else. The individual skill displayed by envyus in recent events has been dismal. Still, you absolutely NEED star players to compete at the top. There are no mighty ducks in csgo. Theres a reason why Markeloff was happy when S1mple was booted from Flipsid3. And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years.
:D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter
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On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 00:46 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:42 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 05 2016 23:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think the fall of french CS demonstrates a bit about the irrelevancy of individual skill if your team can't work together well. I think it says more about the French scene players than anything else. The individual skill displayed by envyus in recent events has been dismal. Still, you absolutely NEED star players to compete at the top. There are no mighty ducks in csgo. Theres a reason why Markeloff was happy when S1mple was booted from Flipsid3. And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter
Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you.
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Germany3128 Posts
On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 00:46 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:42 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 05 2016 23:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think the fall of french CS demonstrates a bit about the irrelevancy of individual skill if your team can't work together well. I think it says more about the French scene players than anything else. The individual skill displayed by envyus in recent events has been dismal. Still, you absolutely NEED star players to compete at the top. There are no mighty ducks in csgo. Theres a reason why Markeloff was happy when S1mple was booted from Flipsid3. And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you.
Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude
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France9034 Posts
On April 06 2016 01:25 TheNewEra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 00:46 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:42 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 05 2016 23:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think the fall of french CS demonstrates a bit about the irrelevancy of individual skill if your team can't work together well. I think it says more about the French scene players than anything else. The individual skill displayed by envyus in recent events has been dismal. Still, you absolutely NEED star players to compete at the top. There are no mighty ducks in csgo. Theres a reason why Markeloff was happy when S1mple was booted from Flipsid3. And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you. Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude
You mean with koosta and adreN? Don't think they'd have beaten Fnatic.
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On April 06 2016 01:28 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:25 TheNewEra wrote:On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 00:46 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:42 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 05 2016 23:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think the fall of french CS demonstrates a bit about the irrelevancy of individual skill if your team can't work together well. I think it says more about the French scene players than anything else. The individual skill displayed by envyus in recent events has been dismal. Still, you absolutely NEED star players to compete at the top. There are no mighty ducks in csgo. Theres a reason why Markeloff was happy when S1mple was booted from Flipsid3. And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you. Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude You mean with koosta and adreN? Don't think they'd have beaten Fnatic.
He means that S1mple had to be benched before the major cause he was too toxic for practice :D
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On April 06 2016 01:25 TheNewEra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 00:46 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:42 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 05 2016 23:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think the fall of french CS demonstrates a bit about the irrelevancy of individual skill if your team can't work together well. I think it says more about the French scene players than anything else. The individual skill displayed by envyus in recent events has been dismal. Still, you absolutely NEED star players to compete at the top. There are no mighty ducks in csgo. Theres a reason why Markeloff was happy when S1mple was booted from Flipsid3. And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you. Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude
Yeah I'm sure that's it and not adren's sudden return to earth during the semifinals. And you are a known s1mple hater so there is def no bias at all in your posts.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
The french have some of the best players individually in the scene but they just seem to fall apart once they win an event or so, they just can't work together for a prolonged time.
As for S1mple, he gets to be as toxic as he is good, if he is good enough then theyl keep him(which right now he is). He is one of the best players individually in the scene right now. Would he benefit from a change in attitude?Sure.
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On April 06 2016 01:30 HugoBallzak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:25 TheNewEra wrote:On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 00:46 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:42 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 05 2016 23:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think the fall of french CS demonstrates a bit about the irrelevancy of individual skill if your team can't work together well. I think it says more about the French scene players than anything else. The individual skill displayed by envyus in recent events has been dismal. Still, you absolutely NEED star players to compete at the top. There are no mighty ducks in csgo. Theres a reason why Markeloff was happy when S1mple was booted from Flipsid3. And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you. Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude Yeah I'm sure that's it and not adren's sudden return to earth during the semifinals. And you are a known s1mple hater so there is def no bias at all in your posts.
Oh, now its Adrens fault they lost the semifinal? What about Nitro who played like shit for the entire tournament? Besides that Simple also did some really stupid mistakes sometimes cause he was chasing frags, and that certainly doesnt help when its a team effort.
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On April 06 2016 01:32 Kipsate wrote:
The french have some of the best players individually in the scene but they just seem to fall apart once they win an event or so, they just can't work together for a prolonged time.
As for S1mple, he gets to be as toxic as he is good, if he is good enough then theyl keep him(which right now he is). He is one of the best players individually in the scene right now. Would he benefit from a change in attitude?Sure.
french players are prima donnas, which explain them shuffling every so often
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On April 06 2016 01:33 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:30 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:25 TheNewEra wrote:On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 00:46 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:42 HugoBallzak wrote:
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I think it says more about the French scene players than anything else. The individual skill displayed by envyus in recent events has been dismal. Still, you absolutely NEED star players to compete at the top. There are no mighty ducks in csgo. Theres a reason why Markeloff was happy when S1mple was booted from Flipsid3. And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you. Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude Yeah I'm sure that's it and not adren's sudden return to earth during the semifinals. And you are a known s1mple hater so there is def no bias at all in your posts. Oh, now its Adrens fault they lost the semifinal? What about Nitro who played like shit for the entire tournament? Besides that Simple also did some really stupid mistakes sometimes cause he was chasing frags, and that certainly doesnt help when its a team effort.
Jesus Christ. I already called out nitro on this site today. Just sick of people acting like adren has always been "godren" and that he is suddenly worth keeping after all the str8 shit performances he has provided over an entire year of being a member of the team. -fugly +s1mple is literally the only change the major lineup has had since I don't even know when and all of a sudden liquid makes the semifinals? Surely s1mple has nothing to do with that, in fact its his boneheaded aggressive plays and toxic attitude that prevented liquid from reaching the finals. This is literally the kind of logic some people are pushing right now.
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France9034 Posts
On April 06 2016 01:33 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:30 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:25 TheNewEra wrote:On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 00:46 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:42 HugoBallzak wrote:
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I think it says more about the French scene players than anything else. The individual skill displayed by envyus in recent events has been dismal. Still, you absolutely NEED star players to compete at the top. There are no mighty ducks in csgo. Theres a reason why Markeloff was happy when S1mple was booted from Flipsid3. And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you. Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude Yeah I'm sure that's it and not adren's sudden return to earth during the semifinals. And you are a known s1mple hater so there is def no bias at all in your posts. Oh, now its Adrens fault they lost the semifinal? What about Nitro who played like shit for the entire tournament? Besides that Simple also did some really stupid mistakes sometimes cause he was chasing frags, and that certainly doesnt help when its a team effort.
If you think S1mple lost that because he chased for frags, you haven't understood how S1mple work and why he can be incredibly good.
Individually, nitr0 has been the most lackluster, but the main reason they lost comes mostly from something team-related, not individual-related.
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On April 06 2016 01:41 HugoBallzak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:33 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:30 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:25 TheNewEra wrote:On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 00:46 Luolis wrote:
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Theres a reason why Markeloff was happy when S1mple was booted from Flipsid3. And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you. Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude Yeah I'm sure that's it and not adren's sudden return to earth during the semifinals. And you are a known s1mple hater so there is def no bias at all in your posts. Oh, now its Adrens fault they lost the semifinal? What about Nitro who played like shit for the entire tournament? Besides that Simple also did some really stupid mistakes sometimes cause he was chasing frags, and that certainly doesnt help when its a team effort. Jesus Christ. I already called out nitro on this site today. Just sick of people acting like adren has always been "godren" and that he is suddenly worth keeping after all the str8 shit performances he has provided over an entire year of being a member of the team. -fugly +s1mple is literally the only change the major lineup has had since I don't even know when and all of a sudden liquid makes the semifinals? Surely s1mple has nothing to do with that, in fact its his boneheaded aggressive plays and toxic attitude that prevented liquid from reaching the finals. This is literally the kind of logic some people are pushing right now.
S1mple is really good, i think we've established that already. I just think that your argument about him making his team better with his toxicity is rubbish. S1mple could probably even be the greatest player in CS history, if hed fix his attitude. Right now hes super good, but imagine him with actually being able to play for the team :D
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On April 06 2016 01:43 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:33 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:30 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:25 TheNewEra wrote:On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 00:46 Luolis wrote:
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Theres a reason why Markeloff was happy when S1mple was booted from Flipsid3. And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you. Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude Yeah I'm sure that's it and not adren's sudden return to earth during the semifinals. And you are a known s1mple hater so there is def no bias at all in your posts. Oh, now its Adrens fault they lost the semifinal? What about Nitro who played like shit for the entire tournament? Besides that Simple also did some really stupid mistakes sometimes cause he was chasing frags, and that certainly doesnt help when its a team effort. If you think S1mple lost that because he chased for frags, you haven't understood how S1mple work and why he can be incredibly good.
No i dont think S1mple lost that for TL. I just got triggered super hard by his "s1mple makes his team better" thing. TL lost that game as a team, not because 1 or 2 individuals played bad.
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France9034 Posts
On April 06 2016 01:46 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:43 Ragnarork wrote:On April 06 2016 01:33 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:30 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:25 TheNewEra wrote:On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:
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And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you. Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude Yeah I'm sure that's it and not adren's sudden return to earth during the semifinals. And you are a known s1mple hater so there is def no bias at all in your posts. Oh, now its Adrens fault they lost the semifinal? What about Nitro who played like shit for the entire tournament? Besides that Simple also did some really stupid mistakes sometimes cause he was chasing frags, and that certainly doesnt help when its a team effort. If you think S1mple lost that because he chased for frags, you haven't understood how S1mple work and why he can be incredibly good. No i dont think S1mple lost that for TL. I just got triggered super hard by his "s1mple makes his team better" thing. TL lost that game as a team, not because 1 or 2 individuals played bad.
And I think he's right to begin with. Not with his attitude, clearly not, that's completely something else. I think S1mple greatly helps the whole team when he goes for insane plays. It creates so much space for others to perform, build confidence (and CS:GO has a lot to do with confidence, an awful lot), and step up their game.
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On April 06 2016 01:47 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:46 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:43 Ragnarork wrote:On April 06 2016 01:33 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:30 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:25 TheNewEra wrote:On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:
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If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you. Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude Yeah I'm sure that's it and not adren's sudden return to earth during the semifinals. And you are a known s1mple hater so there is def no bias at all in your posts. Oh, now its Adrens fault they lost the semifinal? What about Nitro who played like shit for the entire tournament? Besides that Simple also did some really stupid mistakes sometimes cause he was chasing frags, and that certainly doesnt help when its a team effort. If you think S1mple lost that because he chased for frags, you haven't understood how S1mple work and why he can be incredibly good. No i dont think S1mple lost that for TL. I just got triggered super hard by his "s1mple makes his team better" thing. TL lost that game as a team, not because 1 or 2 individuals played bad. And I think he's right to begin with. Not with his attitude, clearly not, that's completely something else. I think S1mple greatly helps the whole team when he goes for insane plays. It creates so much space for others to perform, build confidence (and CS:GO has a lot to do with confidence, an awful lot), and step up their game.
Of course his insane plays help the team, and they also opened soo many rounds for TL. The attitude is what i was focused on straight from the start.
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On April 06 2016 01:44 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:41 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:33 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:30 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:25 TheNewEra wrote:On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 00:59 HugoBallzak wrote:
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And there is a reason markeloff is no longer on Navi. And a reason that s1mple is on a legends team and Markeloff isn't. If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you. Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude Yeah I'm sure that's it and not adren's sudden return to earth during the semifinals. And you are a known s1mple hater so there is def no bias at all in your posts. Oh, now its Adrens fault they lost the semifinal? What about Nitro who played like shit for the entire tournament? Besides that Simple also did some really stupid mistakes sometimes cause he was chasing frags, and that certainly doesnt help when its a team effort. Jesus Christ. I already called out nitro on this site today. Just sick of people acting like adren has always been "godren" and that he is suddenly worth keeping after all the str8 shit performances he has provided over an entire year of being a member of the team. -fugly +s1mple is literally the only change the major lineup has had since I don't even know when and all of a sudden liquid makes the semifinals? Surely s1mple has nothing to do with that, in fact its his boneheaded aggressive plays and toxic attitude that prevented liquid from reaching the finals. This is literally the kind of logic some people are pushing right now. S1mple is really good, i think we've established that already. I just think that your argument about him making his team better with his toxicity is rubbish. S1mple could probably even be the greatest player in CS history, if hed fix his attitude. Right now hes super good, but imagine him with actually being able to play for the team :D
He did play for the team. You are literally overblowing his "toxic" attitude. Anytime I have seen s1mple make public "toxic" statements it has been because his teammates don't carry their weight. Even hiko says that s1mple only cares about winning. Its professional gaming. In pro sports you get benched and you get cut and no one gives a damn if it hurts your feelings. The only way to get respect is to earn respect. Just because you don't like being trashtalked in matchmaking doesn't mean its comparable to pro csgo. That's like saying that because you don't like getting trash talked in recreational baseball that it shouldn't be done in the pro game. This isn't "just a game" to these players. It is a career where winning is what counts to those who are the best at it. It literally took adren getting cut for him to step his game up and play more seriously. Why wasn't he playing this way before? Maybe he needed a good kick in the ass.
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On April 06 2016 01:50 HugoBallzak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 01:44 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:41 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:33 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:30 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:25 TheNewEra wrote:On April 06 2016 01:22 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:19 Luolis wrote:On April 06 2016 01:07 HugoBallzak wrote:On April 06 2016 01:04 Luolis wrote:
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If we wanna continue on that, theres a reason why S1mple never got into the best CIS-team :D Probably because they don't need him. I pretty much guarantee that s1mple will end up on Navi in a couple of years. :D:D:D Well, i guess well see in the future where "omg noop cyka" attitude will take Simple :D If he does get to something like Navi, its purely because of his skill which is extraordinary, but honestly you can't tell me with a serious face that his attitude is at all good for his teams or anybody for that matter Star player during a run to the semifinals of his first major on a new team disagrees with you. Maybe they would have even gone to the finale if they didn't have to sit S1mple out from scrims before the biggest tourney of their career because of his toxic attitude Yeah I'm sure that's it and not adren's sudden return to earth during the semifinals. And you are a known s1mple hater so there is def no bias at all in your posts. Oh, now its Adrens fault they lost the semifinal? What about Nitro who played like shit for the entire tournament? Besides that Simple also did some really stupid mistakes sometimes cause he was chasing frags, and that certainly doesnt help when its a team effort. Jesus Christ. I already called out nitro on this site today. Just sick of people acting like adren has always been "godren" and that he is suddenly worth keeping after all the str8 shit performances he has provided over an entire year of being a member of the team. -fugly +s1mple is literally the only change the major lineup has had since I don't even know when and all of a sudden liquid makes the semifinals? Surely s1mple has nothing to do with that, in fact its his boneheaded aggressive plays and toxic attitude that prevented liquid from reaching the finals. This is literally the kind of logic some people are pushing right now. S1mple is really good, i think we've established that already. I just think that your argument about him making his team better with his toxicity is rubbish. S1mple could probably even be the greatest player in CS history, if hed fix his attitude. Right now hes super good, but imagine him with actually being able to play for the team :D He did play for the team. You are literally overblowing his "toxic" attitude. Anytime I have seen s1mple make public "toxic" statements it has been because his teammates don't carry their weight. Even hiko says that s1mple only cares about winning. Its professional gaming. In pro sports you get benched and you get cut and no one gives a damn if it hurts your feelings. The only way to get respect is to earn respect. Just because you don't like being trashtalked in matchmaking doesn't mean its comparable to pro csgo. That's like saying that because you don't like getting trash talked in recreational baseball that it shouldn't be done in the pro game. This isn't "just a game" to these players. It is a career where winning is what counts to those who are the best at it. It literally took adren getting cut for him to step his game up and play more seriously. Why wasn't he playing this way before? Maybe he needed a good kick in the ass.
:DDDDDDDDDDD That explains it, all you need to do is constantly salt your teammates and they get better. Man, now i know how to become a pro, thanks for the help
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TL lost to LG over a series of small incremental misplays when LG just sharpened up and cut their mistakes. Adren himself did a demo review of cache and its quite visible post morterm of how TL lost the match. Who to blame? you can't pin that on one person, but on the team collectively as a whole. Besides, they got their Legends spot and only lost to the major winner, which for a team that has been underperforming for the last year is a great morale boost. S1mple will continue to improve, alongside the other players. Just need to keep playing, keep studying, and practice practice practice
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