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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
March 25 2024 22:53 GMT
#34301
Well, there go my plans. They changed Archmage to no interact with orbs anymore, so Frost Bomb is out of the window. However, the two alternative versions of Frost Bomb have no Orb tag, for whatever reason (wtf???)... Those are harder to get and worse for what I would want to do because one increases the duration, which I'd try to reduce, and the other one has lower base damage and lower damage effectiveness... The hype died as quickly as it came to life.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2851 Posts
March 26 2024 00:18 GMT
#34302
On March 26 2024 07:53 Miragee wrote:
Well, there go my plans. They changed Archmage to no interact with orbs anymore, so Frost Bomb is out of the window. However, the two alternative versions of Frost Bomb have no Orb tag, for whatever reason (wtf???)... Those are harder to get and worse for what I would want to do because one increases the duration, which I'd try to reduce, and the other one has lower base damage and lower damage effectiveness... The hype died as quickly as it came to life.


How'd you get this info? I'm not 100% on what my league starter is gonna be, but I'm waiting on info on skill gem changes before I decide. I assumed that info wasnt available yet.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
March 26 2024 00:37 GMT
#34303
On March 26 2024 09:18 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2024 07:53 Miragee wrote:
Well, there go my plans. They changed Archmage to no interact with orbs anymore, so Frost Bomb is out of the window. However, the two alternative versions of Frost Bomb have no Orb tag, for whatever reason (wtf???)... Those are harder to get and worse for what I would want to do because one increases the duration, which I'd try to reduce, and the other one has lower base damage and lower damage effectiveness... The hype died as quickly as it came to life.


How'd you get this info? I'm not 100% on what my league starter is gonna be, but I'm waiting on info on skill gem changes before I decide. I assumed that info wasnt available yet.

No it was release with patch notes. Archmage can't be used with brand or orb skills anymore. One version of ball lightning is out as it's an orb but the others aren't.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-26 00:49:03
March 26 2024 00:47 GMT
#34304
On March 26 2024 09:18 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2024 07:53 Miragee wrote:
Well, there go my plans. They changed Archmage to no interact with orbs anymore, so Frost Bomb is out of the window. However, the two alternative versions of Frost Bomb have no Orb tag, for whatever reason (wtf???)... Those are harder to get and worse for what I would want to do because one increases the duration, which I'd try to reduce, and the other one has lower base damage and lower damage effectiveness... The hype died as quickly as it came to life.


How'd you get this info? I'm not 100% on what my league starter is gonna be, but I'm waiting on info on skill gem changes before I decide. I assumed that info wasnt available yet.

The only skill info we're missing is the details for a few of the new transfigured gems. Gems that were called out as buffed/nerfed in the patch aren't updated in POB yet, but the level 20 info for them is enough to manually update the developer version of POB with a bit of effort. If it wasn't mentioned in the notes, it wasn't changed.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
March 26 2024 18:16 GMT
#34305
On March 22 2024 03:09 Haasts wrote:
What's the fastest way to get a Duelist to and through normal lab these days? Spectral Throw with a decent 2H and the 2H mastery for more damage against rares and uniques?


^ bump

Curious to see how Incinerate of Venting behaves as a totem (hopefully continuously channels rather than releasing at max stacks like the base gem).

Out of town the first two weekends so going to be an incredibly slow league start for me.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-26 19:43:56
March 26 2024 19:41 GMT
#34306
On March 27 2024 03:16 Haasts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2024 03:09 Haasts wrote:
What's the fastest way to get a Duelist to and through normal lab these days? Spectral Throw with a decent 2H and the 2H mastery for more damage against rares and uniques?


^ bump

Curious to see how Incinerate of Venting behaves as a totem (hopefully continuously channels rather than releasing at max stacks like the base gem).

Out of town the first two weekends so going to be an incredibly slow league start for me.

Yeah, Spectral Throw / Spectral Helix were what were recommended last league. I haven't kept up to see if there's any changes for this league but that was what was recommended in 3.23

I like Helix more as a skill, but it hasn't really recovered since the nerfs a while ago. Same with the early game Steel skill nerfs. Those + Sunder are usable if you force it. But if you are decent at getting multi-hits with spectral throw it feels the best to me. Usually if boss is against a wall, or if you sweet spot the range so the swords are spinning on top of the boss

I haven't seen any updated boneshatter PoB because they are busy panicking over the Call to Arms change, but you can look at the old PoB. It has leveling section until a boneshatter swap in Act 6. I'm assuming you're not doing bone shatter, but the spectral gems + tree before then can help you

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Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
March 26 2024 20:11 GMT
#34307
On March 27 2024 04:41 EchelonTee wrote:

Yeah, Spectral Throw / Spectral Helix were what were recommended last league. I haven't kept up to see if there's any changes for this league but that was what was recommended in 3.23

I like Helix more as a skill, but it hasn't really recovered since the nerfs a while ago. Same with the early game Steel skill nerfs. Those + Sunder are usable if you force it. But if you are decent at getting multi-hits with spectral throw it feels the best to me. Usually if boss is against a wall, or if you sweet spot the range so the swords are spinning on top of the boss

I haven't seen any updated boneshatter PoB because they are busy panicking over the Call to Arms change, but you can look at the old PoB. It has leveling section until a boneshatter swap in Act 6. I'm assuming you're not doing bone shatter, but the spectral gems + tree before then can help you


Thanks for the confirmation - good point that Spectral Throw needs a little bit of finesse/practice to get the multi-hits. I've heard Sunder isn't the best for bossing. Was thinking of running half a dozen to a dozen normal labs to fish for a few transmuted green gems and let RNGesus take the wheel (either of the Bombarding Clones BAMAs, Dual Strike of Ambidexterity, even DD of Chain Reaction), but if it's a slog/risky to run the lab/bonk Izaro then I'll rethink it.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-27 02:33:09
March 27 2024 02:21 GMT
#34308
On March 22 2024 16:43 EchelonTee wrote:
I'm tempted to cobble together a Slam build using Automation. From the teaser vid, you can link multiple warcries and they will all go off at instant speed. Not having to cast your warcries at all seems like a huge QoL boost even if you can't time things as well

For what it's worth, during the Zizaran interview today Mark said you will not be able to automate multiple warcries at the same time. Apparently Ziz got confirmation after that what was shown in the showcase was either a bug or just not intended.
twitch.tv/cratonz
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-27 03:29:15
March 27 2024 02:34 GMT
#34309
Dam... that's a shame. I guess it could be kind of abusive but it would've been interesting. fire builds were eyeing Call to arms + infernal + enduring cry so it would've been a bit too general I spose

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1boo23j/i_think_i_got_emotional_at_marks_final_remarks_on/

Ziz interview with Mark was really good, recommend yall check it out if you have time
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2851 Posts
March 27 2024 23:31 GMT
#34310
On March 26 2024 09:47 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2024 09:18 Fleetfeet wrote:
On March 26 2024 07:53 Miragee wrote:
Well, there go my plans. They changed Archmage to no interact with orbs anymore, so Frost Bomb is out of the window. However, the two alternative versions of Frost Bomb have no Orb tag, for whatever reason (wtf???)... Those are harder to get and worse for what I would want to do because one increases the duration, which I'd try to reduce, and the other one has lower base damage and lower damage effectiveness... The hype died as quickly as it came to life.


How'd you get this info? I'm not 100% on what my league starter is gonna be, but I'm waiting on info on skill gem changes before I decide. I assumed that info wasnt available yet.

The only skill info we're missing is the details for a few of the new transfigured gems. Gems that were called out as buffed/nerfed in the patch aren't updated in POB yet, but the level 20 info for them is enough to manually update the developer version of POB with a bit of effort. If it wasn't mentioned in the notes, it wasn't changed.


I missed this!

Winter Orb of Finality is broken, and I was hoping it'd get fixed for Necropolis because I wanted to play with it. Right now, it only returns projectiles if the projectile in question hits a wall first, both for the main and secondary projectiles. Owell.
nukem1
Profile Joined October 2010
345 Posts
March 29 2024 18:17 GMT
#34311
So, anyway, the screams turned out to be not one, but two cats angrily yowling at each other.

Oh, didn't see you there…this places is as quiet as a mausoleum…

35k in queue, going in blind like almost never before. Trying explosive traps for the first time >_>

looking forward to all the funny/punny igns

yeah.
https://tudorpc.wordpress.com/
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany833 Posts
March 29 2024 18:55 GMT
#34312
On March 30 2024 03:17 nukem1 wrote:
So, anyway, the screams turned out to be not one, but two cats angrily yowling at each other.

Oh, didn't see you there…this places is as quiet as a mausoleum…

35k in queue, going in blind like almost never before. Trying explosive traps for the first time >_>

looking forward to all the funny/punny igns

yeah.



Explosive traps is at least a very smooth leveling experience imho. Played it a long time ago to 90+ on HC without having any problems at all, way before transfigured or alternate gems. And single target is probably still bonkers.

Still not 100% sure what i wanna do, and already in queue (50K+).
I was thinking about the super tanky trickster stuff with ephemeral edge and splitting steel, but i`m just not sure if "ultra tanky but mediocre and nerfed dmg" really is something i wanna go for.

Alternatively i`ll just play necro, either as "ALL THE MINIONS" or that cool iron mass skeleton build i saw from some dude i`ve never heard of before.
"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-29 18:59:38
March 29 2024 18:58 GMT
#34313
wtf, i was at 2.4k in queue, now a disconnect occured and im at 64.8k

oh well, 10 min later start.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
March 29 2024 19:00 GMT
#34314
I'm just doing stock standard champion LS. Haven't league started an attack build since sanctum, so we'll see how much I remember.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany833 Posts
March 29 2024 19:00 GMT
#34315
On March 30 2024 03:58 HolydaKing wrote:
wtf, i was at 2.4k in queue, now a disconnect occured and im at 64.8k

oh well, 10 min later start.


yeah, me too. Well, i dropped from 50K to 65K or so, but still. I hope its not a bad sign for the server stability
"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-29 19:12:02
March 29 2024 19:02 GMT
#34316
On March 30 2024 04:00 Espelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2024 03:58 HolydaKing wrote:
wtf, i was at 2.4k in queue, now a disconnect occured and im at 64.8k

oh well, 10 min later start.


yeah, me too. Well, i dropped from 50K to 65K or so, but still. I hope its not a bad sign for the server stability

I know it shouldnt be this way, but reading it makes me feel better, lol. Agreed, hope the server stability will be good.

Looks like it wiil rather be 30 minutes, rough... Never happpened to me so far, so yeah.

Quin just logged out lol..
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-30 00:25:55
March 29 2024 22:09 GMT
#34317
Hope league start is going smoothly for people - turns out I'm not heading away this weekend, but OTOH have sole charge of a grumpy teething toddler, so will do my best to get to lab when he naps in a bit. Hmmmm, Spectral Throw vs Split Arrow/RoA leveling?

Edit: Got to, uh, Oak/Vaal Ruins during his nap. Spectral Throw leveling going well, getting distracted by new campaign stuff. Should probably do some league crafting to get a 4L or MS boots.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
March 30 2024 08:41 GMT
#34318
League crafting was pretty good in acts like 1-3, but it gets really bad in a hurry until you've got a lot of corpses to combine into crafts.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
March 31 2024 17:24 GMT
#34319
On March 30 2024 17:41 Craton wrote:
League crafting was pretty good in acts like 1-3, but it gets really bad in a hurry until you've got a lot of corpses to combine into crafts.

I was going to say the same. Its a craft league thats very expensive to craft but the high end is going to be wicked.

BAMA has gone very well. Acts with NecroSRS was cake but making the transision to bama was a struggle. Day 2 was white map suffering but early blight was a godsend for chaos recipes. After getting a few chaos I have been able to make the switch and its gone really really well.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
March 31 2024 18:29 GMT
#34320
On April 01 2024 02:24 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2024 17:41 Craton wrote:
League crafting was pretty good in acts like 1-3, but it gets really bad in a hurry until you've got a lot of corpses to combine into crafts.

I was going to say the same. Its a craft league thats very expensive to craft but the high end is going to be wicked.

BAMA has gone very well. Acts with NecroSRS was cake but making the transision to bama was a struggle. Day 2 was white map suffering but early blight was a godsend for chaos recipes. After getting a few chaos I have been able to make the switch and its gone really really well.


What made the switch feel good?

Just shy of maps; ran normal lab ~10 times to get both BAMA gems and swapped from Spectral Throw to impale BAMA. Need to craft a better bow and get a few Ghastly Eyes.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
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