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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13942 Posts
March 22 2024 03:29 GMT
#34281
TS finally got hit with a heavy nerf. the mana change is huge with squeezing just that extra bit out and the snipers mark gutting also hurts it a lot. Mageblood nerfs are great to make sure its not the be "solve your resists" belt. I really wish there was some buffs in the notes but a lot of these were necessary. The melle nerfs were not and I'm wondering if its time for me to go DD at the start.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-22 05:34:47
March 22 2024 05:33 GMT
#34282
Updated my POB for the new Storm Brand of Indecision numbers: it's a 47% loss in damage for the build I checked against.

Here's the pastebin for the update if anyone wants it: https://pastebin.com/13UiGHbr. Skill is in act_int.lua. I didn't update the quality effect, you can just halve it on the gem.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10716 Posts
March 22 2024 07:41 GMT
#34283
More Hype for the new bosses and stuff than anything else .

Did CoC-Vortex last league... No idea what I will do this time.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
March 22 2024 07:43 GMT
#34284
I'm tempted to cobble together a Slam build using Automation. From the teaser vid, you can link multiple warcries and they will all go off at instant speed. Not having to cast your warcries at all seems like a huge QoL boost even if you can't time things as well
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
hgtfzhtrhfg
Profile Joined March 2024
2 Posts
March 22 2024 10:51 GMT
#34285
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States654 Posts
March 22 2024 15:27 GMT
#34286
Sadly I’ve become more casual. And the moment I saw how much fine tune was happening, I just uninstalled the game.

Granted I think it would be a fun experience if I am a still very dedicated hardcore gamer though.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-22 21:36:46
March 22 2024 21:36 GMT
#34287
I like the endgame changes, Rolling or buying sextants was annoying so I won't miss it.

I saw they reverted Archmage nerfs from several leagues ago and not it scales again only with maximum mana (and not mana cost). That is cool, I've not played Archmage since they changed it so I will play a hierophant mana build for sure. I still don't which skill to choose, maybe blade vortex or ball lightning.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
March 22 2024 21:59 GMT
#34288
On March 23 2024 06:36 haitike wrote:
I like the endgame changes, Rolling or buying sextants was annoying so I won't miss it.

I saw they reverted Archmage nerfs from several leagues ago and not it scales again only with maximum mana (and not mana cost). That is cool, I've not played Archmage since they changed it so I will play a hierophant mana build for sure. I still don't which skill to choose, maybe blade vortex or ball lightning.


They buffed archmage again? :o Time to play frost bomb again? hmmm I haven't watched the announcement yet but this alone kinda hypes me to the point I consider playing this league.
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
March 23 2024 10:52 GMT
#34289
Looks like a good league imo
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
March 23 2024 14:28 GMT
#34290
I'm not sure trill by the the crafting mecanic of the league.

The rest tough seem really nice. The scarab, T17 map, free invitation, new atlas tree, etc... So good !!

n_n
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
March 23 2024 16:30 GMT
#34291
I'm not really sure on it. It could end up being tedious and the good mods so rare that it's bad, or it could end up being a way to acquire sentinel style gear that you can't get elsewhere. They teased a few of the special mods you can get, but I'm expecting there to be many more. Might be some interesting things to build around or ways to make gear that's normally a pain.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13942 Posts
March 23 2024 22:50 GMT
#34292
I'm very apprehensive on a league that is forced to interact with. I think it might make campaign a lot different which is good but even if it's just harm reduction mode it'll be tedious.

Atlas changes look great and t-17 maps are the shit. With witch getting part two voices I'm thinking dd in some variant.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2558 Posts
March 24 2024 16:58 GMT
#34293
On March 24 2024 07:50 Sermokala wrote:
I'm very apprehensive on a league that is forced to interact with. I think it might make campaign a lot different which is good but even if it's just harm reduction mode it'll be tedious.

Atlas changes look great and t-17 maps are the shit. With witch getting part two voices I'm thinking dd in some variant.


Yeah checking the affixes of rare mobs has never been my favourite ARPG activity, less so dying because I didn't do that homework. If this league has any of that, I can see the experience being fucking miserable. Dying because a dangerous mod rolled on to a dangerous mob as part of a constant rolling effect pool might be a real issue.
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany819 Posts
March 24 2024 21:58 GMT
#34294
Pretty hyped.
I feel the archmage buff might actually deter me from playing a mana build again, theres so much hype for it from so many streamers that i`m a bit scared i`d be competing with half the playerbase for gear

Necro does look nice though, and would be kind of "on brand" for the league. And the leech should work as instant leech with leech mastery afaik (if you even take it now and not just skip the bone armour node completely)

I`m also having a look at the new poison concoction version, the fact that it starts at 30% of flask recovery as chaos on the one screenshot i saw is kinda crazy considering the normal one is 12% or so on a lvl 20 gem.

Lots of options, as usual :D

"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-25 00:24:32
March 24 2024 23:38 GMT
#34295
On March 25 2024 01:58 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2024 07:50 Sermokala wrote:
I'm very apprehensive on a league that is forced to interact with. I think it might make campaign a lot different which is good but even if it's just harm reduction mode it'll be tedious.

Atlas changes look great and t-17 maps are the shit. With witch getting part two voices I'm thinking dd in some variant.


Yeah checking the affixes of rare mobs has never been my favourite ARPG activity, less so dying because I didn't do that homework. If this league has any of that, I can see the experience being fucking miserable. Dying because a dangerous mod rolled on to a dangerous mob as part of a constant rolling effect pool might be a real issue.

member when we had to read Nemesis mods for volatile dead? reminds me of that, really tedious... if the reward is good enough maybe it'll be ok but I see a lot of complaining in the near future
On March 25 2024 06:58 Espelz wrote:
Pretty hyped.
I feel the archmage buff might actually deter me from playing a mana build again, theres so much hype for it from so many streamers that i`m a bit scared i`d be competing with half the playerbase for gear

Necro does look nice though, and would be kind of "on brand" for the league. And the leech should work as instant leech with leech mastery afaik (if you even take it now and not just skip the bone armour node completely)

I`m also having a look at the new poison concoction version, the fact that it starts at 30% of flask recovery as chaos on the one screenshot i saw is kinda crazy considering the normal one is 12% or so on a lvl 20 gem.

Lots of options, as usual :D


you doing better now Espe? I remember you had a hand/arm injury or somethin

yea all those look good. I think archmage will be fine in the midgame, its mainly the top end gear / uniques that will be tough to get

personally im going meta slave once again, coc dd inquis looks too fun to pass up
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany819 Posts
March 25 2024 08:55 GMT
#34296
On March 25 2024 08:38 EchelonTee wrote:
you doing better now Espe? I remember you had a hand/arm injury or somethin

yea all those look good. I think archmage will be fine in the midgame, its mainly the top end gear / uniques that will be tough to get

personally im going meta slave once again, coc dd inquis looks too fun to pass up



Thank you I am mostly back to normal, still feel it a bit on the elbow at times, but its mostly okay now.
Was just really dumb overall. For about a week or two, half my right arm was basically all shades of purple. The easiest things didnt really work, like... putting on socks, or moving the car a few meters to another parking spot because i needed both arms to kinda put it in reverse ...

I did manage to play a little bit of LE even in last couple of day, but not that much. I didnt watch anything and just played some selfmade ignite sorcerer.

Is coc dd really that meta ? It does sound a lot of fun for sure.

"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
March 25 2024 09:46 GMT
#34297
On March 25 2024 06:58 Espelz wrote:
Pretty hyped.
I feel the archmage buff might actually deter me from playing a mana build again, theres so much hype for it from so many streamers that i`m a bit scared i`d be competing with half the playerbase for gear


Uh, thanks for the headsup. I haven't followed any streams so I didn't realise people were hyped about this - although I should have guessed as much based on my own reaction... Well, if I play it will be casual anyways and this just means it will be extra casual. Staying behind the curve in these types of situations often means you can snack some juicy equipment for cheap from the market when people scrap their "mediocre" stuff.

On March 24 2024 07:50 Sermokala wrote:
I'm very apprehensive on a league that is forced to interact with. I think it might make campaign a lot different which is good but even if it's just harm reduction mode it'll be tedious.

Atlas changes look great and t-17 maps are the shit. With witch getting part two voices I'm thinking dd in some variant.


For me it fits my playstyle. I have never been the kind of guy to roll 50 maps and blast them without a break. I enjoy the short breaks to decide on what happens next.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-25 12:14:56
March 25 2024 12:13 GMT
#34298
On March 25 2024 18:46 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2024 06:58 Espelz wrote:
Pretty hyped.
I feel the archmage buff might actually deter me from playing a mana build again, theres so much hype for it from so many streamers that i`m a bit scared i`d be competing with half the playerbase for gear


Uh, thanks for the headsup. I haven't followed any streams so I didn't realise people were hyped about this - although I should have guessed as much based on my own reaction...

Yea seems like a lot of people are looking at archmage ball lightning. Subtractem made a video titled "The League Start Secret Is Out" xD theres a few diff ways to build it tho, I think it'll be fine. Esp if you leverage some crafting knowledge with the new league
On March 25 2024 17:55 Espelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2024 08:38 EchelonTee wrote:
you doing better now Espe? I remember you had a hand/arm injury or somethin

yea all those look good. I think archmage will be fine in the midgame, its mainly the top end gear / uniques that will be tough to get

personally im going meta slave once again, coc dd inquis looks too fun to pass up
Is coc dd really that meta ? It does sound a lot of fun for sure.

You can see some gameplay from imexile here (a10 char in t10 map) : https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2099609746?t=6h37m10s

the main downside is that you need 2 meta transfigured gems, and a 5L, before the build can really work. so might need to spam lab

+ Show Spoiler [Google Doc with PoB] +
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQPjbbblTprKCo5dTrOB6bml-CXze1rwFKM7RUnsG09aT_2t-xEyKxKiJrSzswCEb_CMd0QLE2XEC5W/pubhtml


I'm debating this version and the more traditional necro one tho. necro would be tankier and better at bossing but this seems way faster
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-25 17:19:26
March 25 2024 17:18 GMT
#34299
I still want to play archmage despite the streams xD But not ball lightning as I already played it in the past when Archmage was good. I'm still looking for different skill gems to choose one.

I've seen lot of people plan to go for Mjölner and triggering a skill with cyclone CwC. I don't know, I would like to try self cast... Maybe something crazy like "icenova of frostbolt" with Pledge of Hands and archmage. But probably a bad idea because the mana cost and such. I will think about it the next days. Maybe at the end I will play meta (it seems Mjölner with Indigon).
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-25 18:46:28
March 25 2024 18:45 GMT
#34300
I think it's less ball lightning specifically and just archmage + something. There are 4 or 5 skills I've seen getting a lot of mention with it, plus either Mjolner or -100% mana cost Hierophant setups. Reverse snapshotting is dead, so I'm not sure how much people are really going to gravitate toward Indigon, especially in lieu of the 0 cost options, but I'm not that well versed on mana builds.

Defensively I think you can get a lot of value out of just -100% cost, high mana pool, mana master(ies) to recover mana, and/or some damage recouped as mana mana. It's a pretty small leap from what you're already doing and gets back a lot of the mana for your pool without having to hard scale mana regen that you don't otherwise need.

I'm still undecided on my plan. I might still do Storm Brand as a league starter just to do it, then reroll into a Lightning Strike build of some sort. I don't think I want to force LS as the starter.
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