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nukem1
Profile Joined October 2010
345 Posts
August 19 2022 19:57 GMT
#33681
ahm, hello?
is there no hype for league start?
https://tudorpc.wordpress.com/
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22490 Posts
August 19 2022 20:00 GMT
#33682
All my hype went away when GGG announced the defensive nerfs. Damage was already way to spiky, I have little interest in playing if its going to be worse.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-19 20:02:21
August 19 2022 20:00 GMT
#33683
Happy league start everyone!

On August 20 2022 05:00 Gorsameth wrote:
All my hype went away when GGG announced the defensive nerfs. Damage was already way to spiky, I have little interest in playing if its going to be worse.


They also nerfed the rare spawn rate. That's one less (reduced) source of random one shots (I hope)!
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1973 Posts
August 19 2022 20:03 GMT
#33684
poe 2 waiting room
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
August 19 2022 20:12 GMT
#33685
On August 20 2022 05:03 CicadaSC wrote:
poe 2 waiting room


I mean, they announced a hands on for July next year. Basically tomorrow.
nukem1
Profile Joined October 2010
345 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-19 20:16:59
August 19 2022 20:13 GMT
#33686
On August 20 2022 05:03 CicadaSC wrote:
poe 2 waiting room


got DCed twice while in queue, so it's probably around that time that i'll get to play

On August 20 2022 05:12 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2022 05:03 CicadaSC wrote:
poe 2 waiting room


I mean, they announced a hands on for July next year. Basically tomorrow.


what's that? like one and a half lockdowns?
https://tudorpc.wordpress.com/
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 20 2022 05:53 GMT
#33687
Didn't post here yesterday, but the league start hype is still real for me. Know what? I rolled Chieftain Artillery Ballista and it starts being quite OK! But I switched way too early, should have done so at like lvl 50 instead of instantly. Having near zero damage early on due to Marauder pathing made for a 15 minutes norrmal lab while rushing lmao.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
August 20 2022 18:47 GMT
#33688
Looking at how Harvest turned out, I think they should have given it the Expedition-treatment. To have the currency tradable means they had to have low drop rates. I don't think most people are going to use it now but sell their currency to the richest players which will still use it. I mean, maybe the drop rates will increase significantly with juice but looking at it right now I think it would have been better to make the currency untradable. And that's coming from someone who is usually against trade-restrictions/soul-bound systems.
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
August 22 2022 06:11 GMT
#33689
Found my first ever Hyrris Ire (ssf) and feel I should try my first bow character. But the league, the harvest changes and Chris' "What we're working on" makes me wanna leave.
I don't get it. What was so bad about finding a harvest every 3-4 maps and click 3-4 "reforge with more fire" or "change socket colour"?
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10935 Posts
August 22 2022 08:24 GMT
#33690
They should have never done harvest and they actually should just delete it.

The one thing that annoys me about PoE is the fucking community that allways just screams more, more, more!

Reddit is basically useless atm.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22490 Posts
August 22 2022 08:46 GMT
#33691
On August 22 2022 17:24 Velr wrote:
They should have never done harvest and they actually should just delete it.

The one thing that annoys me about PoE is the fucking community that allways just screams more, more, more!

Reddit is basically useless atm.
Harvest (once toned down a bit) was the best thing to ever happy to PoE crafting.
Affix pools are so massive that it needs more targeted crafting that is accessible to the general player base.

There is nothing wrong with having a decent chance at finding a chest with good life and some resists. Or a weapon with the correct elemental modifiers for your build.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-22 13:05:48
August 22 2022 13:05 GMT
#33692
i honestly dont think this game is for me after playing this league for 10+ hours. Nothing changed. Portals, wow. This game just feels like you run through enemies too fast to really enjoy the moments, and the enemies are boring to fight, they dont do anything. youre just killing the same mobs over and over and over. The devs threw rng in there and said "fun?"
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
August 22 2022 14:01 GMT
#33693
On August 22 2022 17:24 Velr wrote:
They should have never done harvest and they actually should just delete it.

The one thing that annoys me about PoE is the fucking community that allways just screams more, more, more!

Reddit is basically useless atm.


I read through some forum posts today and the disconnect is embarrassing. They accuse GGG of being disconnected and dilusional while most of their "solutions" are completely braindead (streamers are not better in this regard imho), they seem to think every change they don't agree with is equally bad as war crimes and they think they are in the majority just because the loud ones are on the forums... I mean, every patch I have some disagreements as well. I do have some issues with Archnemesis for example. That doesn't mean I'm necessarily right and even if I were it doesn't mean I need to go to the forums and _demand_ GGG to change it the way I want them to.

On August 22 2022 22:05 CicadaSC wrote:
i honestly dont think this game is for me after playing this league for 10+ hours. Nothing changed. Portals, wow. This game just feels like you run through enemies too fast to really enjoy the moments, and the enemies are boring to fight, they dont do anything. youre just killing the same mobs over and over and over. The devs threw rng in there and said "fun?"


This is, among other things, a consequence of what the community wants. Even though they don't see it. Everytime GGG tries to change something into the direction of making the game a bit slower, the community screams NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK DONT NERF BUFF EVERTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the more reasonable voices will say "I'm ok with a slower game but (some way of saying they still want to one-shot mobs)"....
Believe it or not, a lot of mobs actually have moves or abilities you would need to play around if the game was slower. This was the case originally. You could still outgear everything in the game but that took way more time than nowadays. Stuff like voidbearers used to be scary af for example. Let them start their cast, move to the side, hit them. Today you just blow them away with a whole screen of other random monsters.

Ok, enough of being angry. I'm personally not sure if I will continue this league. Not because of any of the changes but I don't feel that motivated to play atm. It's the opposite to last league, which I thought I would skip but ended up playing for the entire 3 months. This time I was motivated and spend quite some time in PoB but now I would rather spend some more time in PoB...
I started with a Holy Relic Guardian and made it to white maps now. Damage and tankiness seem fine but it's clunky. Static strike wind up takes forever and often misses, even with ancestral call + faster attacks. The minions always stay super close and it feels super bad if they die.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22490 Posts
August 22 2022 14:07 GMT
#33694
Monsters and their effects are balanced around the player 1 shotting the entire screen constantly.
If you want to stop players from 1 shotting you also need to rebalance the monsters, their damage and effects. not their hp (aside from dumb rares)

And GGG regularly does the former, without doing the latter.
Plus you can't tell me wailing on a rare for 10 minutes because it got a dumb combination of buffs is 'fun'.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
August 22 2022 14:26 GMT
#33695
On August 22 2022 23:07 Gorsameth wrote:
Monsters and their effects are balanced around the player 1 shotting the entire screen constantly.
If you want to stop players from 1 shotting you also need to rebalance the monsters, their damage and effects. not their hp (aside from dumb rares)

And GGG regularly does the former, without doing the latter.
Plus you can't tell me wailing on a rare for 10 minutes because it got a dumb combination of buffs is 'fun'.


I somewhat agree with your first statement although I believe you can't this in one swoop. I also think a lot of moster damage is fine, if it is avoidable. Imho they actually need to tone done monster density not monster damage for the most part. For some monsters the damage specifically needs adjustment though but I don't think the raw numbers per monster are the main reason people feel like monsters do too much damage. For good measurement, put Rampage on your map device and see how fast you reach 1000 monsters killed. It's pretty insane comparatively when it used to be like 300 per map.

Fighting a rare for 10 minutes feels bad. Just as bad as fighting Shaper for 10 minutes. At least to me. Imho the HP gap between rares and white should be smaller. Maybe like 10-20 times instead of 100-1000 times.
As I said, I have some issues with Archnemesis and huge HP pools is one of them. I think they at least did well with making them rewarding now though. Another issue is the ground effects. Especially on death. I hate if I have killed everything and have to wait another 5-10 seconds for the ground effects to disappear until I can interact with a league mechanic or whatever.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10935 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-22 14:42:02
August 22 2022 14:33 GMT
#33696
On August 22 2022 23:07 Gorsameth wrote:
Monsters and their effects are balanced around the player 1 shotting the entire screen constantly.
If you want to stop players from 1 shotting you also need to rebalance the monsters, their damage and effects. not their hp (aside from dumb rares)

And GGG regularly does the former, without doing the latter.
Plus you can't tell me wailing on a rare for 10 minutes because it got a dumb combination of buffs is 'fun'.


I remember when they buffed Mapbosses.
Most builds actually had to play them (until a very easy to reach gear treshhold) and Mapbosses normally don't have any one shot abilities that you can't easily dodge.
Reddit was on fire.

Super tanky rares are dumb, no issue there. But i take the occasional ridiculous rare over the explode the whole screen as soon as you touch the first enemy and instaphase (or kill) mapbosses all the time. I played Cold-BV-Pathfinder-Fotm thing in Ritual, it was totally bonkers and no character should EVER reach that sort of clearspeed (and facetanking sirius beams just for shits and giggles). I was decently geared but far from truely rich (<100 exalts).

I actually like how Act 1 and 2 play now (if you don't use one of the more broken starter skills). Sure the game should get a bit faster later, but thats mainly because it feels sluggish due to low movement/attack/castspeed, not because the general killspeed/progress feels truely slow.
Gauntled (iirc during ritual too?) was probably the most fun i had in a long time, you actually had to play your char and even there the problem showed up more and more the farther in the game you got. I normally don't play hc so it was a basic ed/contagion Trickster (made it to iirc lvl 76/maps, I didn't die but had to stop for a few days and then it was over.

I agree that the main problem is probably too many monsters. As long as that amount of monsters do any kind of damage, freak oneshots are bound to happen.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2743 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-23 00:19:15
August 23 2022 00:13 GMT
#33697
Reddit is insane. So much negativity and crying about everything.

Altough GGG really screwed it nerfing the map loot and juicing so much and not even mentioning it in the patch notes.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 23 2022 00:37 GMT
#33698
The drop nerf is pretty backbreaking all around - it kinda sucks seeing even campaign uniques dropping diddlysquat. Was really hard getting proper equipment even pre-maps. I think them quietly making the ground collapse under everyone's feet isn't a good look, and I'm amused most of the CCs seem to be calling them out on it. We'll see how things fare over the coming week, I guess.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14174 Posts
August 23 2022 02:04 GMT
#33699
Its much worse that they didn't communicate it in any way. The most massive change to the game in years and they drop it in an off hand line after the launch of the league.

This was a company that had gained a lot of good will from its community through its communication. Transparency had papered up a lot of issues people were having and kept others defending them long after they had to.

Now all that is up in smoke.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 23 2022 02:53 GMT
#33700
I'm still holding out hope it wasn't meant to be this drastic and they have a live build bug or something.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
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