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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 06 2018 00:19 GMT
#29461
Yeah i really worry for winter orb's boss killing potential, clear looks like it will probably end up fine.

Multiple totems seems to be the "non-hierophants can finally be totem characters too" gem, which i'm fine with. I absolutely HATE HATE HATE how ggg are adding skill-specific buffs to ascendancy classes. Not only does it make the class feel bad if you aren't that one pigeonholed skill, but also it makes the skill feel bad if you aren't that one pigeonholed class. It feels bad in so many scenarios for this weird upside of helping people with no brain figure out how to play a skill. This gem alleviates that issue in the case of totems at least.
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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-06 00:22:58
December 06 2018 00:22 GMT
#29462
Cold DoT numbers look pretty high. Like, new Vortex base DoT is ~1.5x old Cold Snap, before accounting for the fact that there's a new multiplier stat for it.

Pretty sure cold DoT Occultist is gonna be good. Time to dick around in PoB.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
December 06 2018 01:01 GMT
#29463
Question about Dread Banner - do you only get the "2% increased fortify effect per stage" when you place the banner? Or at all times? It doesn't explicitly say "after being placed" but the placement of the text is confusing.

If it is when being placed, does it last the full banner duration or only the fortify 0.05 per stage duration?

I guess it just has to be tested but the wording seems confusing.


On another note, what do you guys think is a good frost blades ascendency?
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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
December 06 2018 01:09 GMT
#29464
Just Frost Blades, or Frost Blades plus other fancy mechanics? Raider, Deadeye, Gladiator, Champion, Assassin, Scion are definitely all decent.

Not sure about the Dread Banner fortify effect, you're right that it's confusingly worded.
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
December 06 2018 01:10 GMT
#29465
Used to really like ascendant frostblades, slayer assassin i think.. though nerfed now, not sure what would be best. Struggles single target.

I really want to try armageddon brand but, is heiro going to be required? because i want to do it as elementalist if anything.
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21686 Posts
December 06 2018 01:22 GMT
#29466
On December 06 2018 10:01 EchelonTee wrote:
Question about Dread Banner - do you only get the "2% increased fortify effect per stage" when you place the banner? Or at all times? It doesn't explicitly say "after being placed" but the placement of the text is confusing.

If it is when being placed, does it last the full banner duration or only the fortify 0.05 per stage duration?

I guess it just has to be tested but the wording seems confusing.

It doesn't have 'when placed' after it so going purely off the wording it works all the time, but it could very well be an unclear tooltip.

No way to know without testing or GGG clarifying.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-06 01:35:32
December 06 2018 01:26 GMT
#29467
On December 06 2018 10:10 LagLovah wrote:
I really want to try armageddon brand but, is heiro going to be required? because i want to do it as elementalist if anything.

Hiero only has one node related to brands. It lets you place an additional one, but the extra effects other than that don't seem game-changing, just quality of life. Hard to say right now without actually playing with them. Though worth considering Templar is going to have easier access to the Runebinder keystone as well (I guess Witch isn't too bad tbh).
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
December 06 2018 01:38 GMT
#29468
Doesn't seem like hiero is required to me, though that cooldown recovery could be quite nice.

How important is slayer overleech for survivability? Assassin or Raider are quite tempting for frost blades tbh

On a side note I kind of wanted to try out the new impale skills, but the numbers just don't seem great. Scaling pure phys still seems kind of poor when you consider all the mods you can get that improve conversion builds
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LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-06 02:32:22
December 06 2018 01:44 GMT
#29469
Guess the real question is whether brands reflect damage back to you, might have go to elementalist anyways. Runesmith would be awkward to get for heiro.... so elementalist, get the minion overpowered node of stupidity - spiritual aid.

Seems alright I guess. Will try it out anyways.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
December 06 2018 04:01 GMT
#29470
Hiero has the whole "Enemies take 10% increased damage per brand" going on which seems pretty bonkers for singletarget.

...the whole Ice stuff is really tempting. Icespear can shotgun apparently and has free pierce attached, Vortex, Arctic Breath and Ice Nova (130% effectiveness!) also have pretty nice numbers.

Something something CwC Winter Orb Ice Spear?
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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
December 06 2018 04:04 GMT
#29471
No clue what to play, maybe I'll just do a generic starter like arc trap and wait for someone to come up with a good CoC build while I farm the currency to fund a good alt.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 06 2018 04:07 GMT
#29472
On December 06 2018 13:01 r.Evo wrote:
Hiero has the whole "Enemies take 10% increased damage per brand" going on which seems pretty bonkers for singletarget.

Yeah but you can only apply one brand to each target, so on single target its just a flat 10% more (ish). Fights with adds running around could be different though.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
December 06 2018 04:19 GMT
#29473
On December 06 2018 13:01 r.Evo wrote:
Hiero has the whole "Enemies take 10% increased damage per brand" going on which seems pretty bonkers for singletarget.

...the whole Ice stuff is really tempting. Icespear can shotgun apparently and has free pierce attached, Vortex, Arctic Breath and Ice Nova (130% effectiveness!) also have pretty nice numbers.

Something something CwC Winter Orb Ice Spear?

Arctic Breath and Vortex seem kind of meh to me. The damage is quite good, so you could use it in some boss spec, but the clear seemed pretty bad. Even with GMP in that vid the arctic breath seemed slow. Vortex likewise you'd have to use it alongside frostbolt since it has a cooldown now

CwC winter orb + ice spear or Ice nova does seem pretty good to me tho. Solo winter orb seems like it'd be too little damage, but together you can take advantage of the winter orb chilling for the CwC skill
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LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
December 06 2018 04:23 GMT
#29474
On December 06 2018 13:07 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2018 13:01 r.Evo wrote:
Hiero has the whole "Enemies take 10% increased damage per brand" going on which seems pretty bonkers for singletarget.

Yeah but you can only apply one brand to each target, so on single target its just a flat 10% more (ish). Fights with adds running around could be different though.


Well runebinder lets you have 2 brands on it. The easy ignite on elementalist with the 180% more on the gem makes it seem pretty good.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 06 2018 04:35 GMT
#29475
On December 06 2018 13:23 LagLovah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2018 13:07 Duka08 wrote:
On December 06 2018 13:01 r.Evo wrote:
Hiero has the whole "Enemies take 10% increased damage per brand" going on which seems pretty bonkers for singletarget.

Yeah but you can only apply one brand to each target, so on single target its just a flat 10% more (ish). Fights with adds running around could be different though.


Well runebinder lets you have 2 brands on it. The easy ignite on elementalist with the 180% more on the gem makes it seem pretty good.

Oh I actually misread that, thought that let you have +1 BRANDS, not specifically multiple on the same enemy.

Yeah that hiero node ain't bad for a single Brand node then. Still don't think it makes Hiero the only brand spec though
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-06 05:52:14
December 06 2018 04:55 GMT
#29476
An idea, would putting CoC in ngamahu's flame let you proc CoC off of the balls from the weapon?

just tested on standard and it does work. I wonder if that can be a build, use ngamahu's flame and use CoC in the weapon and another CoC in chest?
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
December 06 2018 06:40 GMT
#29477
ngahamu has bad crit chance tho, kind of a problem.

Personally if I was going CoC I would do cospri's or some sort of Vagan dagger setup, since it sounds like it will be craftable or a veiled mod or something
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-06 06:47:40
December 06 2018 06:44 GMT
#29478
I've been doing more and more thinking and think discharge is the wrong skill to use for coc atm. Realistically ngamahus and cospris have very similar base crit amounts. I see very few reasons why you'd want to use ngamahu's over cospris.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
December 06 2018 06:51 GMT
#29479
Ngamahu is common though.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
December 06 2018 06:53 GMT
#29480
I think winter orb could be good with curse on hit, or as a cold dmg source in elementalist build. Don't think it is meant for primary damage.

I think the multiple totem could be very good if you want to freeze something with totems and then have more primary damage against frozen enemy, or maybe good with Cheftain and its reflect damage and taunt.
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