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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 16:33:46
December 05 2018 16:25 GMT
#29421
On December 06 2018 01:23 -Archangel- wrote:
Also am I crazy or does a cold dot CI occultist sound good. Arctic Breath or Vortex one..

I'd do all 3 tbh. Arctic Breath as main skill, Vortex and Cold Snap with Conc Effect in a 4L for boss dmg (or rather one of them as 5L in Rime Gaze which got buffed; although it reduces ES recharge hard. But you can use Bated Breath to counter it).
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8573 Posts
December 05 2018 16:27 GMT
#29422
On December 06 2018 01:10 HolydaKing wrote:
Yeah, which makes it an very, very slight nerf since the damage stays around the same for optimized builds (got that from Reddit), but the AoE and number of hits (meaning less life gained on hit) got lower.

Show nested quote +
Wildfire is now limited to 1. This affects all versions of the item


I think Cloak of Defiance will be excellent for EB + MoM now that it has very high ES.


Ah, didn't even know the Jewel is called Wildfire...

EB + CoD sounds quite good now. I've heard they made some changes to ES so you can achieve constant regeneration etc. Have to look into that. Although I'm probably going to play the standard for the first time since I'm going to start with a friend who is completely new to the game.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 05 2018 17:22 GMT
#29423
This Doryani's touch thing looks doable with the buffs now.
No need for accuracy or lycosidae, decent buff to the skill and carcass jack for a shitload of aoe could be fun.
Multistrike + 8 frenzy charge should be ok as far as attack speed goes.

Won't be amazing but probably a ton of fun :D
Zest fanboy.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 05 2018 17:36 GMT
#29424
I wonder if coc vortex is now a good thing again.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 05 2018 17:52 GMT
#29425
On December 06 2018 02:36 bo1b wrote:
I wonder if coc vortex is now a good thing again.

Well Vortex has a cooldown so I doubt it. Also its AoE was not made bigger, only DoT damage.
They did improve how it works in combination with Frostbolts.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 05 2018 17:54 GMT
#29426
Brands share same passived nodes as totems. One enemy can only have one brand on itself so having lots of brands available does nothing for single target damage.
Maybe there is a good brand + totem build that can be made around this.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 05 2018 18:15 GMT
#29427
Brands sound really cool in concept but a bit clunky in execution. I'm curious to try them. I think most of the smoothness will come from how long after they're "applied" they first begin to tick. D3 had an ability called Exploding Palm where you debuffed enemies and they'd explode when they died. It didn't do anything on its own, but if you had something (or someone) else killing the enemies it'd cause wild cascades that were really fun. Sounds like it could work out that way.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
December 05 2018 18:27 GMT
#29428
On December 05 2018 10:17 Haasts wrote:
Didn't expect a new Occultist notable to be "cosplay a Wither Totem", hmmmn. Really have to resist the lure of safe comfortable ED/contagion levelling into trying to make Death's Oath work on high-level content =p


It sound crazy, but I'm wondering if with the new notable it might actually be worth building a non-ES Occultist for this purpose since you can take four relevant notables without touching Vile Bastion/Wicked Ward - base it off a life/MoM-based Trickster tree, maybe work in Aspect of the Spider via a craft depending on rarity, and I wonder (assuming you're happy with Flame Dash / Phase Run for movement) if instead of the Allelopathy-for-Blight-by-default, now there's another four sockets available due to not needing Wither-Spell Totem-Faster Casting-Increased Duration, you could craft yourself some sort of Shaper staff for a 6L+ Vaal Blight ... Non-ailment Chaos Damage over Time Multiplier, maybe inbuilt CwC to chuck a cheeky Essence Drain in? Shame all the crit/power charge options don't do a lot for this sort of build.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 05 2018 19:01 GMT
#29429
Pretty sure I have a scion coc discharge build worth about 500 ex in pob, a realistic goal for the league. Should do several million dps vs shaper/uber elder, has unlimited life leech slayer leech style (and runs acuities with vaal pact, so it's quick), has more than 7k hp with some defensive flasks so it looks viable from a distance. I'm quite pleased.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 19:12:31
December 05 2018 19:04 GMT
#29430
On December 06 2018 02:36 bo1b wrote:
I wonder if coc vortex is now a good thing again.

I'm doing CoC Ice Nova with Frostbolt in a Cospri's and a separate self-cast Vortex setup (instant cast so you can just mash the button while you're moving or attacking, don't need to trigger it).

I think the CD on Vortex kills it as an option for your triggered CoC skill, but I'm hoping you can use it alongside a CoC setup as a secondary skill.

I really like the instant cast mechanic for enabling builds that use more than one skill - it helps with the "why would I spend time using a second skill when I could just spend that time using my first skill a second time?" problem. Maybe Contagion will become instant cast someday...
On December 06 2018 01:10 HolydaKing wrote:
I think Cloak of Defiance will be excellent for EB + MoM now that it has very high ES.

If you combine it with the new helm on an Occultist, the ES half of your HP pool has perma-recharge...seems like it might be good.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 05 2018 19:16 GMT
#29431
https://pastebin.com/v5a0fwDe

Budget discharge! Let me know if something's obviously wrong please.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 19:25:21
December 05 2018 19:22 GMT
#29432
On December 06 2018 04:01 bo1b wrote:
Pretty sure I have a scion coc discharge build worth about 500 ex in pob, a realistic goal for the league. Should do several million dps vs shaper/uber elder, has unlimited life leech slayer leech style (and runs acuities with vaal pact, so it's quick), has more than 7k hp with some defensive flasks so it looks viable from a distance. I'm quite pleased.


Link to the PoB? I'm curious about this.

nvm didn't see you did that just above, sorry.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 05 2018 19:24 GMT
#29433
Above you, damage is down to only a million + some spare change with discharge, could probably get it higher but it's very hard. Overcapped res vs red map ele weakness etc.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 05 2018 19:24 GMT
#29434
On December 06 2018 04:04 ASoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2018 02:36 bo1b wrote:
I wonder if coc vortex is now a good thing again.

I'm doing CoC Ice Nova with Frostbolt in a Cospri's and a separate self-cast Vortex setup (instant cast so you can just mash the button while you're moving or attacking, don't need to trigger it).

I think the CD on Vortex kills it as an option for your triggered CoC skill, but I'm hoping you can use it alongside a CoC setup as a secondary skill.

I really like the instant cast mechanic for enabling builds that use more than one skill - it helps with the "why would I spend time using a second skill when I could just spend that time using my first skill a second time?" problem. Maybe Contagion will become instant cast someday...
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2018 01:10 HolydaKing wrote:
I think Cloak of Defiance will be excellent for EB + MoM now that it has very high ES.

If you combine it with the new helm on an Occultist, the ES half of your HP pool has perma-recharge...seems like it might be good.

do we know what precisely feast of flesh is?
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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
December 05 2018 19:27 GMT
#29435
On December 06 2018 04:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2018 04:04 ASoo wrote:
On December 06 2018 02:36 bo1b wrote:
I wonder if coc vortex is now a good thing again.

I'm doing CoC Ice Nova with Frostbolt in a Cospri's and a separate self-cast Vortex setup (instant cast so you can just mash the button while you're moving or attacking, don't need to trigger it).

I think the CD on Vortex kills it as an option for your triggered CoC skill, but I'm hoping you can use it alongside a CoC setup as a secondary skill.

I really like the instant cast mechanic for enabling builds that use more than one skill - it helps with the "why would I spend time using a second skill when I could just spend that time using my first skill a second time?" problem. Maybe Contagion will become instant cast someday...
On December 06 2018 01:10 HolydaKing wrote:
I think Cloak of Defiance will be excellent for EB + MoM now that it has very high ES.

If you combine it with the new helm on an Occultist, the ES half of your HP pool has perma-recharge...seems like it might be good.

do we know what precisely feast of flesh is?

Not that I know of. If it's bad it could definitely still break the combo.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 05 2018 19:35 GMT
#29436
Did you see how good the helmet is. That alone and the name of the skill makes me 90% sure it's bad. Just how bad is the question.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 19:38:34
December 05 2018 19:37 GMT
#29437
On December 06 2018 04:24 bo1b wrote:
Above you, damage is down to only a million + some spare change with discharge, could probably get it higher but it's very hard. Overcapped res vs red map ele weakness etc.


looks interesting, honestly I think this could be pretty viable even without the corruptions at a fairly reasonable price. Is the aquity really worth it over good rare gloves?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
December 05 2018 19:44 GMT
#29438
On December 06 2018 04:16 bo1b wrote:
https://pastebin.com/v5a0fwDe

Budget discharge! Let me know if something's obviously wrong please.


Atziri's acuity and vaal pact on the tree seems redundant, otherwise looks really good. Wouldn't have been too expensive in previous leagues, but I'm guessing basically all of these uniques are gonna be crazy expensive this league.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 05 2018 19:55 GMT
#29439
On December 06 2018 04:44 ThaddeusK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2018 04:16 bo1b wrote:
https://pastebin.com/v5a0fwDe

Budget discharge! Let me know if something's obviously wrong please.


Atziri's acuity and vaal pact on the tree seems redundant, otherwise looks really good. Wouldn't have been too expensive in previous leagues, but I'm guessing basically all of these uniques are gonna be crazy expensive this league.

I'm an idiot, I didn't read how acuities worked. Thanks.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 05 2018 20:02 GMT
#29440
Did anyone use the new Flame Dash extensively in 3.4? Is it actually a reasonable alternative to Shield Charge or Leap Slam or whatever now? Or are the charges still limiting even with the shorter CD and stuff
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