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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 01:07:44
December 05 2018 01:04 GMT
#29381
The "Stream of Monsters" strongbox mod now spawns monsters much more quickly

Hyper clapping


Zerphis change looks killer? But no nerfs to Poets Pen or anything. Cool that they want to keep/encourage the "cast on other effect" type gameplay with the CoC and Mjolnir and etc. buffs rather than nerfing PP and such. No arc changes either.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
December 05 2018 01:06 GMT
#29382
Surprisingly light-handed Inpulsa nerf. Weren't most builds that really abused it adding a bunch of base damage to the explosions with stuff like Esh's Mirror and Stormfire, rather than relying on the monster's life?
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 01:18:58
December 05 2018 01:12 GMT
#29383
On December 05 2018 10:01 bo1b wrote:
Molten strike is now exclusive to mjol jugg, sorry you had to find out the hardway.

Is the 100% more spell damage part of Mjolner enough to make it so you dont need to scale spell damage as a Jugg? Or do you still need a wonky tree that does spell+lightning dmg and phys+fire dmg

I have a friend that plays the shit out of MS so I'm sure he'll be looking for solid (or kooky) new ideas. And I'm not old enough to know or remember anything about how Mjolner works lol
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 01:21:04
December 05 2018 01:17 GMT
#29384
Didn't expect a new Occultist notable to be "cosplay a Wither Totem", hmmmn. Really have to resist the lure of safe comfortable ED/contagion league into trying to make Death's Oath work on high-level content =p

Does that Carcass Jack buff achieve much in the way of anything w/the way AOE works since the change? Mightn't be the worst to target-farm div cards in SSF while accumulating rings for Loreweave if it's a decent QoL to clear.

Also, Bringer of Rain nearly full circle!

Edit: Just for Gunde:

Doryani's Fist now adds (150-225) to (525-600) (down from (225-335) to (785-900)) Lightning Damage to Unarmed Attacks, and (90-135) to (315-360) (up from (60-90) to (210-240)) Lightning Damage to Spells while Unarmed. The Doryani's Touch skill granted by Doryani's Fist can now hit up to 50 Enemies per skill use, up from 20, has 20% more Area of Effect, now costs 8 Mana instead of 28, and can no longer be Evaded. It now has 50% less Attack Speed (down from 30%), 600% Added Damage Effectiveness (up from 350%) and now converts all Physical Damage to Lightning (up from 50%).
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 01:26:06
December 05 2018 01:21 GMT
#29385
Occultist has so friggin' many good nodes now, I kind of wish they'd collapsed the ES or Curse branches into single notables. I want like twice as many nodes as I can get from that ascendancy!

*edit* Do we know what all three new ailments are? Scorch is one, from that unique that was posted. Is Impale an ailment? Do we know of a third yet?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 05 2018 01:29 GMT
#29386
On December 05 2018 10:12 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2018 10:01 bo1b wrote:
Molten strike is now exclusive to mjol jugg, sorry you had to find out the hardway.

Is the 100% more spell damage part of Mjolner enough to make it so you dont need to scale spell damage as a Jugg? Or do you still need a wonky tree that does spell+lightning dmg and phys+fire dmg

I have a friend that plays the shit out of MS so I'm sure he'll be looking for solid (or kooky) new ideas. And I'm not old enough to know or remember anything about how Mjolner works lol



Here's a 5 minute uber elder kill pre mjol buff with a retarded death in between, and not enough cdr to make a difference. Multiply the discharges per second by 2.5 and get rid of the death and it's probably a 2:30 uber elder kill. Shield charge + discharge on hit will always be amazing for map clear too.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
December 05 2018 01:31 GMT
#29387
Indigon nerf gonna hit that particular build pretty hard, but Mjolner still looks hella strong.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 01:37:06
December 05 2018 01:36 GMT
#29388
On December 05 2018 10:29 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2018 10:12 Duka08 wrote:
On December 05 2018 10:01 bo1b wrote:
Molten strike is now exclusive to mjol jugg, sorry you had to find out the hardway.

Is the 100% more spell damage part of Mjolner enough to make it so you dont need to scale spell damage as a Jugg? Or do you still need a wonky tree that does spell+lightning dmg and phys+fire dmg

I have a friend that plays the shit out of MS so I'm sure he'll be looking for solid (or kooky) new ideas. And I'm not old enough to know or remember anything about how Mjolner works lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MOaWkPcAr8

Here's a 5 minute uber elder kill pre mjol buff with a retarded death in between, and not enough cdr to make a difference. Multiply the discharges per second by 2.5 and get rid of the death and it's probably a 2:30 uber elder kill. Shield charge + discharge on hit will always be amazing for map clear too.

Yeah I have no feel for how that translates to MS replacing Cyclone (probably not much different, but why one vs the other), and also Indigon change.

I'm not even sure how crits work with MS. It seems like a good candidate for CoC synergy but are the crits on each ball decided individually? Or when you first hit and it rolls crit do ALL those balls that come from that hit also crit simultaneously? I assume it's the former or MS + CoC wouldn't even be particularly special
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
December 05 2018 01:37 GMT
#29389
They sure killed quill rain hey.
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 01:46:50
December 05 2018 01:45 GMT
#29390
Hmm, I don't think it will affect it too badly. Previously you had to attack for 15 seconds straight to get to 2000% increased spell damage, and that just doesn't occur. If he averaged more than 500% increased I'd be shocked, and I'm honestly not convinced it's even that big a deal to use it given the changes to proc rate.

On December 05 2018 10:36 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2018 10:29 bo1b wrote:
On December 05 2018 10:12 Duka08 wrote:
On December 05 2018 10:01 bo1b wrote:
Molten strike is now exclusive to mjol jugg, sorry you had to find out the hardway.

Is the 100% more spell damage part of Mjolner enough to make it so you dont need to scale spell damage as a Jugg? Or do you still need a wonky tree that does spell+lightning dmg and phys+fire dmg

I have a friend that plays the shit out of MS so I'm sure he'll be looking for solid (or kooky) new ideas. And I'm not old enough to know or remember anything about how Mjolner works lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MOaWkPcAr8

Here's a 5 minute uber elder kill pre mjol buff with a retarded death in between, and not enough cdr to make a difference. Multiply the discharges per second by 2.5 and get rid of the death and it's probably a 2:30 uber elder kill. Shield charge + discharge on hit will always be amazing for map clear too.

Yeah I have no feel for how that translates to MS replacing Cyclone (probably not much different, but why one vs the other), and also Indigon change.

I'm not even sure how crits work with MS. It seems like a good candidate for CoC synergy but are the crits on each ball decided individually? Or when you first hit and it rolls crit do ALL those balls that come from that hit also crit simultaneously? I assume it's the former or MS + CoC wouldn't even be particularly special


The balls don't hit simultaneously (i'm 99% sure of this), and crit chance is decided at the attack point. On second thought, ms isn't that big a deal for this particular build.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
December 05 2018 01:50 GMT
#29391
On December 05 2018 10:37 LagLovah wrote:
They sure killed quill rain hey.


btw there are those new"+x% to chaos dmg Dot multiplier" modifiers at the usual chaos dmg clusters that u can take to mitigate the nerf. so its not really a heavy nerf
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
December 05 2018 02:05 GMT
#29392
On December 05 2018 10:37 LagLovah wrote:
They sure killed quill rain hey.

I like how EA got really killed as collateral damage. Toxic Rain still fine as non-quill versions.

On December 05 2018 09:50 bo1b wrote:
Arc mines you absolute pleb.

I still haven't touched mines since the changes to triggering them. Hmmmmmm.... maybe this is the league. Not sure how comfy they are now.

There's gotta be something in all the unique buffs as well. CoC Augyre Bladefall np.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 05 2018 02:13 GMT
#29393
You could still run with a +4 ea bow and just do 1 fuse to blow up a whole pack, but why not just go ele hit then?
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
December 05 2018 02:18 GMT
#29394
Hmm, how big is the mjolnir buff? Indigon got hit, and the buff on mjolnir doesn't seem huge, but I don't know. The issue I always had with it was the damage just wasn't very good. Also no cospri's buffs. Not sure what I want to play now, maybe just regular poets pen and then switch into some king of CoC or mjolnir build/alt?
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
December 05 2018 02:20 GMT
#29395
On December 05 2018 11:18 hunts wrote:
. Also no cospri's buffs. N


false
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
December 05 2018 02:31 GMT
#29396
Tried it with 20/20 in a +3 elder thicket w/ attack speed vs quill rain current and it felt fine. wont be doing any agony crawler stuff but still viable im sure. killed shaper pretty quick.
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 02:44:33
December 05 2018 02:43 GMT
#29397
On December 05 2018 10:04 Duka08 wrote:
The "Stream of Monsters" strongbox mod now spawns monsters much more quickly

Hyper clapping



That, "The Lightning Mirage Nemesis Mod now plays a noticeable sound when triggered" and prophecy changes (hopefully) are MVPs.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 05 2018 04:22 GMT
#29398
Man, pour one out for my guy quill rain. I really liked that unique... past tense.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
December 05 2018 04:28 GMT
#29399
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 08:19:53
December 05 2018 08:17 GMT
#29400
Man, sucks that Chin Sol was used with Ele Hit. I didn't think about that. I planned using a Ascendant with Chieftain/Hierophant and using Siege Ballista. What I ended up doing in PoB had like 400+k shaper dps per Ballista (with totem res, so I think they wouldn't die so easily) with 4 Ballistas limit and 6k life with totem leech and decent regen. While the Chin Sol nerf still makes it BiS for boss apparently, it makes me not want to play it, lol. Like -100k dps per Ballista now (and ofc only at close range, the long range dps is a lot worse).
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